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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2008, 09:31:43 am »
Shit...what a disappointment this thread is. I clicked on it thinking the bitch was really dead.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2008, 09:44:45 am »
I cannot hope that she dies.  She can no longer do any harm and therefore no longer poses a threat, so her death is of no benefit to anyone.  Perhaps if she lasts long enough, we will get a labour government that is not as right wing as she was (at the start of her time), perhaps we can go back to having a caring society and perhaps they will do a complete U-turn on this preposterous decision.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2008, 09:47:08 am »
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2008, 10:14:21 am »
We're talking about a state funeral here, something reserved for some of the biggest heroes in history.

Thatcher? I give up…

Maybe it's a bribe, to have her die quicker.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #85 on: July 16, 2008, 10:21:13 am »
Tell you something though in spite of all the trouble she and her mob brought to Liverpool it became a time when the people did come together. Most of us had some relative or friend who was a victim of  Thatcher’s Monetarism. I remember getting a few weeks work here and there from mates and family who couldn’t afford it themselves but threw in to help. The word went out there was cash in hand work, “ but don’t tell anyone” you would turn up and it was like the match hundreds standing around waiting, plenty of times it was a hoax, The DHSS always turned up with their cameras, if they got your picture, the next time you signed on you had to explain what you where doing there. The least thing and you had your benefit stopped.

My daughters birthday was on the same day as my neighbours sister in law, her husband was working away and they didn’t have a penny up to their eyes paying back debts while he was out of work, we had a double celebration in our house, Everyone bringing bits and pieces for the party. It lasted three days and we are still very close to that family and the ex neighbours.

Birthdays and weddings where great occasions too, a time for many just let their hair down and try and forget, usually it was the same routine, everyone chipping in, no airs and graces just a good time had by all.

What really guiles me over those times was that Thatcher was representing her class as best she could, we had leaders who shit themselves the first time she shouted at them. She wasn’t that strong either, she was at the heart of a system tat was falling apart, her actions where those of a politician who was forced to take actions that were for the most part a major gamble, that she got away with so much was down to the trade union and Labour leaders. With a decent push from a strong leadership the whole rotten system would have fallen.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2008, 10:32:46 am »
I cannot hope that she dies.  She can no longer do any harm and therefore no longer poses a threat, so her death is of no benefit to anyone.  Perhaps if she lasts long enough, we will get a labour government that is not as right wing as she was (at the start of her time), perhaps we can go back to having a caring society and perhaps they will do a complete U-turn on this preposterous decision.

Christ Andy how long do we have to wait? The real socialist have long been ousted and I don't mean the Militant either. The Labour party of today is middle class Oxbridge at the top and self seeking opportunists below them..

The policy is not to create a better more equal society, it is the preservation of capital, they differ not one iota from Tories, as this crisis deepens, and unemployment becomes the scourge it was in Thatcher’s days you will see how socially conscious  the New Labourites are.

 It’s not a decent Labour Government we need, it is a new and independent workers party that like Thatcher and Campbell today stand up for its class interests without any compromise to the national interest, that disgusting phrase both Labour and Tory politicians drag out when the workers have to sacrifice what little of a life they have.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2008, 10:33:37 am »
What really guiles me over those times was that Thatcher was representing her class as best she could, we had leaders who shit themselves the first time she shouted at them. She wasn’t that strong either, she was at the heart of a system tat was falling apart, her actions where those of a politician who was forced to take actions that were for the most part a major gamble, that she got away with so much was down to the trade union and Labour leaders. With a decent push from a strong leadership the whole rotten system would have fallen.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2008, 11:11:36 am »
Tell you something though in spite of all the trouble she and her mob brought to Liverpool it became a time when the people did come together. Most of us had some relative or friend who was a victim of  Thatcher’s Monetarism. I remember getting a few weeks work here and there from mates and family who couldn’t afford it themselves but threw in to help. The word went out there was cash in hand work, “ but don’t tell anyone” you would turn up and it was like the match hundreds standing around waiting, plenty of times it was a hoax, The DHSS always turned up with their cameras, if they got your picture, the next time you signed on you had to explain what you where doing there. The least thing and you had your benefit stopped.

My daughters birthday was on the same day as my neighbours sister in law, her husband was working away and they didn’t have a penny up to their eyes paying back debts while he was out of work, we had a double celebration in our house, Everyone bringing bits and pieces for the party. It lasted three days and we are still very close to that family and the ex neighbours.

Birthdays and weddings where great occasions too, a time for many just let their hair down and try and forget, usually it was the same routine, everyone chipping in, no airs and graces just a good time had by all.

What really guiles me over those times was that Thatcher was representing her class as best she could, we had leaders who shit themselves the first time she shouted at them. She wasn’t that strong either, she was at the heart of a system tat was falling apart, her actions where those of a politician who was forced to take actions that were for the most part a major gamble, that she got away with so much was down to the trade union and Labour leaders. With a decent push from a strong leadership the whole rotten system would have fallen.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2008, 11:33:14 am »

What really guiles me over those times was that Thatcher was representing her class as best she could, we had leaders who shit themselves the first time she shouted at them. She wasn?t that strong either, she was at the heart of a system tat was falling apart, her actions where those of a politician who was forced to take actions that were for the most part a major gamble, that she got away with so much was down to the trade union and Labour leaders. With a decent push from a strong leadership the whole rotten system would have fallen.


True, but Thatcher's evil genius was to smash the backbone of Labour's support by empowering the ordinary people, the working classes, mostly through giving them the right to buy council houses. She encouraged them to be home owners, with vested interests in the status quo and the economy in order to keep them sweet and defuse their appetite for a political fight.

Unfortunately, it wasn't just the self-destruction of Labour during the Foot years that allowed Thatcher to run riot, it was the fact that millions of previously Labour people jumped ship for the Tories, because they suddenly believed themselves to be upwardly mobile, and as homeowners etc, they were now more 'middle-class' - and should therefore vote Tory.

I've got mates I grew up with – people whose parents – as kids – were bombed out of London during the war, real Labour families – who bought into that shit, and who today are 'forced' to take out private healthcare and send their kids to public schools in London cos the state schools are, surprise surprise, a bit rundown. They think the hospitals aren't good enough for them.

Thatcher made a generation of people consumers – and in the increase in violence, personal debt, the growing disparity between rich and poor and the sense of a society breaking down, the rest of us are picking up the bill.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2008, 12:31:22 pm »
True, but Thatcher's evil genius was to smash the backbone of Labour's support by empowering the ordinary people, the working classes, mostly through giving them the right to buy council houses. She encouraged them to be home owners, with vested interests in the status quo and the economy in order to keep them sweet and defuse their appetite for a political fight.

Unfortunately, it wasn't just the self-destruction of Labour during the Foot years that allowed Thatcher to run riot, it was the fact that millions of previously Labour people jumped ship for the Tories, because they suddenly believed themselves to be upwardly mobile, and as homeowners etc, they were now more 'middle-class' - and should therefore vote Tory.

I've got mates I grew up with – people whose parents – as kids – were bombed out of London during the war, real Labour families – who bought into that shit, and who today are 'forced' to take out private healthcare and send their kids to public schools in London cos the state schools are, surprise surprise, a bit rundown. They think the hospitals aren't good enough for them.

Thatcher made a generation of people consumers – and in the increase in violence, personal debt, the growing disparity between rich and poor and the sense of a society breaking down, the rest of us are picking up the bill.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2008, 02:21:02 pm »
True, but Thatcher's evil genius was to smash the backbone of Labour's support by empowering the ordinary people, the working classes, mostly through giving them the right to buy council houses. She encouraged them to be home owners, with vested interests in the status quo and the economy in order to keep them sweet and defuse their appetite for a political fight.

Unfortunately, it wasn't just the self-destruction of Labour during the Foot years that allowed Thatcher to run riot, it was the fact that millions of previously Labour people jumped ship for the Tories, because they suddenly believed themselves to be upwardly mobile, and as homeowners etc, they were now more 'middle-class' - and should therefore vote Tory.

I've got mates I grew up with – people whose parents – as kids – were bombed out of London during the war, real Labour families – who bought into that shit, and who today are 'forced' to take out private healthcare and send their kids to public schools in London cos the state schools are, surprise surprise, a bit rundown. They think the hospitals aren't good enough for them.

Thatcher made a generation of people consumers – and in the increase in violence, personal debt, the growing disparity between rich and poor and the sense of a society breaking down, the rest of us are picking up the bill.

There's still no one on earth I detest more.

You are correct in a lot of what you say but play too much emphasis on the accomplished facts of Thatcherism, and so give out a pessimistic message about individualism. After all she accomplished the capitalist system is still as insecure and volatile as before, in fact nobody is hiding the fact this crisis is far greater than the one in the 70s and is heading to one that will eclipse that of the 1930s


A major part of Thatcher’s Monetarism was based on the drive for the individual to aspire to be better than the next person, and yes there were people who would claim to have a workers background who fell for it. That is something that has gone on through the ages that is the basis of the middle class. Many of those who were able to bought their council house, the price they paid reflected the desperation of the state to get shut of this basic right. The fact that central governments had slashed their subsidies making it impossible to repair and maintain council property was never made an issue outside the council workers themselves who were facing job cuts by the week.


Again it comes down to the question of leadership, was there a decisive campaign against this by the unions or the Labour Party who ran the majority of the major councils? They bemoaned the fact they were not getting enough money from central government to make repairs but with the exception of Liverpool who mounted a very selective fight, nothing was done to mobilise the working class to defend good cheap housing for all.


I also agree that during this period the “desires of the individual” became the priority of the middle class and those within the working class who were sheltered from the effects of Thatcherism joined the bandwagon and became a section of the middle class themselves.


The lack of leadership wasn’t down to not having the right people in the right places, it was about the leaderships roll in society. For them the question of organising the working class to fight and defend their conditions was more horrific than letting Thatcher’s version of Capital run riot against them. This abdication of leadership went right through the political spectrum within the working class movement.


The prime example was the miners strike. The roll of the trade union leadership was to split the workers, create confusion. The only support to the miners was to allow their members to raise funds for the miner’s families, without expanding one ounce of energy to support the miners through the only weapon they have, industrial action.

The miners above all where that section of the Trade Union movement that could have brought Thatcher down as they did with Ted Heath before her, but Thatcher wasn’t Heath and she had brought together all the arms of the state to defeat not only the miners but by doing so crush any resistance from the rest of the working class.


These cowards within the labour movement who allowed industrial relation laws to come into force with nothing but a minimum of protest, used these same laws as an excuse for not standing with the miners. It didn’t take a genius to work out that to fight and defeat Thatcher would have meant smashing the anti- union laws. The reluctance to stand with the miners against the class biased law shows that for them it was not about defending workers against the state it was defending the state from the workers


Arthur Scargill for his part accepted this situation, he made plenty of fiery speeches and was given the reputation of being a firebrand Marxist but he never once called for a general strike in support of his members until the battle was lost and the miners had given up any confidence in their leadership. In fact he distanced himself from Marxist political parties and groups that made it their policy to work towards such a general strike He became like the Grand Old Duke of York marching his men here there and everywhere without getting anywhere, except heading to defeat and extinction of the mining industry.


Again the question of the “self” played an enormous part in the states preparations against the miners. Thatcher played on the individualism and confusion within the miners ranks. Aided ably by the media and the Labour Party she was able to first split their unity then destroy them. The state had had an earlier practice run in the steel industry, and used those lessons against the miners.


But Thatcher’s and Reagan’s adherence to Milton Freidman’s economics only gave capitalism a certain breathing space, as did the Bretton Woods agreement after the end of WW2. The cobbled together  formula for putting off the inevitable brought about the crisis in the 70s.


Today on the surface it would appear that workers go into this crisis in capitalism weaker than before, but that is not so, in fact it is its dialectical opposite, they are not fooled by any member of the Labour Party and know full well the treachery of their trade union leaders. Many have since the 70s been able to gain a certain standard of living that is based on debt, there is no way out of this one for capital but to fight, they have no margin in which they can buy time, for the working class it is the same, there is no way out but to fight to defend their conditions. I keep making the point that the decisive question is one of leadership.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2008, 02:32:41 pm »
Agree with a lot of what you say Danny. Will Hutton in the Observer has been arguing for ages that unrestricted market forces could be in crisis too - Northern Rock just an early warning of things to come, PPP schemes failing…

Fact remains though that too many working class people had their heads turned by Thatcherism and sought only to look after themselves. New Labour are no solution
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2008, 03:36:40 pm »
True, but Thatcher's evil genius .....

Excellent post.

I would add that Thatcher addressed real problems that had been ducked by the Labour movement. Problems concerning industrial relations, nationalised industries and local government inefficiency. Her solutions were mad and vindictive. We are still paying for them now, as you say, and much that was precious about British life has been lost - probably forever. But she would not have got a look in if Labour had had the guts to look at the state of its own house.
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« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2008, 05:10:34 pm »
Was Thatchers infatuation with Monetarism the last ideological act in British politics? I'm struggling to think of any ideologically based policiy undertaken by her successors, Major, Blair or Brown, they've 'managed' the economy without seeking to alter it?
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« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2008, 07:29:08 pm »
Was Thatchers infatuation with Monetarism the last ideological act in British politics?

You're forgetting John Major's 'cone hotline'.
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« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2008, 09:48:37 pm »
Was Thatchers infatuation with Monetarism the last ideological act in British politics? I'm struggling to think of any ideologically based policiy undertaken by her successors, Major, Blair or Brown, they've 'managed' the economy without seeking to alter it?
 

Milton Freidman’s economics lasted less than 10 years I would guess, it had a bit of a renaissance in Brazil, but as a viable alternative to Keynes is was to put it bluntly shite. For it to have worked it would have had to have had a global perspective . Its only real success was in its first attempt in Chile after Allende had been ousted by a bloody CIA backed military coup. The social fabric of the country was one of a brutal dictatorship, with independent trade unions and political parties banned. Strikers leaders where punishable by being dragged out of their homes by state death squads and murdered. Lets face it if you couldn’t organise an economy based on a “complex stabilising policy” under these conditions you had no right to be a ”public intellectual”


Maybe Thatcher and Reagan fell in love with the idea of having death squads to deal with the workers, but what ever, the experiment founded and passed away like a bad dose of Beni Belly. Free Market economy created more confusion short term than any shop stewards committee could in a generation. The EU still hold to  bits of Friedman’s theories mostly in their anti competition laws, “fee up the markets” was Friedman’s shout, today it is “what fucking markets”
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2008, 10:32:43 pm »
 

Milton Freidman’s economics lasted less than 10 years I would guess, it had a bit of a renaissance in Brazil, but as a viable alternative to Keynes is was to put it bluntly shite. For it to have worked it would have had to have had a global perspective . Its only real success was in its first attempt in Chile after Allende had been ousted by a bloody CIA backed military coup. The social fabric of the country was one of a brutal dictatorship, with independent trade unions and political parties banned. Strikers leaders where punishable by being dragged out of their homes by state death squads and murdered. Lets face it if you couldn’t organise an economy based on a “complex stabilising policy” under these conditions you had no right to be a ”public intellectual”


Maybe Thatcher and Reagan fell in love with the idea of having death squads to deal with the workers, but what ever, the experiment founded and passed away like a bad dose of Beni Belly. Free Market economy created more confusion short term than any shop stewards committee could in a generation. The EU still hold to  bits of Friedman’s theories mostly in their anti competition laws, “fee up the markets” was Friedman’s shout, today it is “what fucking markets”

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« Reply #98 on: July 16, 2008, 10:59:30 pm »
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The bitch needs nailling to a cross if you ask me

I think that might create some unfortunate imagery.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #101 on: July 17, 2008, 10:41:34 am »
Think that Thatcher's funeral could become one great big party/riot/uprising delete as appropriate.

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« Reply #102 on: July 17, 2008, 10:43:46 am »
I think that might create some unfortunate imagery.
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« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2008, 01:27:50 pm »
Excellent post.

I would add that Thatcher addressed real problems that had been ducked by the Labour movement. Problems concerning industrial relations, nationalised industries and local government inefficiency. Her solutions were mad and vindictive. We are still paying for them now, as you say, and much that was precious about British life has been lost - probably forever. But she would not have got a look in if Labour had had the guts to look at the state of its own house.

Can you explain more clearly what in your opinion were the problems at the time and what did Thatcher do that the Labourites before her should have done.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2008, 01:35:14 pm »
Think that Thatcher's funeral could become one great big party/riot/uprising delete as appropriate.

One thing for certain, it will be a good day.

agreed, if there is a state funeral as i said to my parents, who were in total agreement with my views, last night i'll be protesting along the route and abusing that evil bitch's coffin.  as will a lot of other people, and people on here, hopefully.

hopefully it's years off yet though, and she will contract some really horrible disease and live years  in pain and agony (still having her marbles to feel the pain and agony) having time to think about everything she done first.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2008, 02:16:57 pm »
I agree, I think this will be a slow-burning issue that will build up to be a logistical nightmare for the police and authorities on the day of her funeral. I do believe that hundreds of thousands of people of all persuasions, ages  and classes will protest on the day - it's not just the woman but the whole ethos that we'll be getting our final chance to bury.

I wouldn't miss it for the world.

then again, how sweet would it be if the protest becomes so big that they have to abandon plans for it… That would send a heartbreaking message to the bitch in her final hours.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2008, 03:38:24 pm »
Can you explain more clearly what in your opinion were the problems at the time and what did Thatcher do that the Labourites before her should have done.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2008, 03:46:45 pm »
Not here.

This thread is about maintaining a united front against the Hated One.

Unless your views are counter to the “united front” I can’t see that discussing them on here would do any harm. In fact there are so many younger readers that the broader an explanation of what she represented would give them a better idea why there is so much hatred.

The Guardian today says a website poll taken yesterday gives it out that 80% are opposed to her getting a state funeral. The poll was made up of more than 12,000 voters. Doesn’t name the poll, typical of the Gaurdian.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2008, 05:12:50 pm »
Unless your views are counter to the ?united front? I can?t see that discussing them on here would do any harm. In fact there are so many younger readers that the broader an explanation of what she represented would give them a better idea why there is so much hatred.

The Guardian today says a website poll taken yesterday gives it out that 80% are opposed to her getting a state funeral. The poll was made up of more than 12,000 voters. Doesn?t name the poll, typical of the Gaurdian.

It was the Guardian's own online poll. Surprised it was only 80% against.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #109 on: July 17, 2008, 05:58:08 pm »
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #110 on: July 17, 2008, 09:38:08 pm »
Make it like one of those shitty fucking Live 8 events, charge a tenner a ticket, that'll sort the fucking economy out. 99% off the population would turn up...
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #111 on: July 17, 2008, 10:05:27 pm »
Do you remember the Royal Wedding shit with Charles and Diana? They made it a public holiday. The pubs were allowed to open all day - bear with me, younger readers, that wasn't the norm in those days. But loads of local councils held "alternative" celebrations, all in good fun of course. I was living in London at the time and Hackney Council had a big party in Clissold Park. Brilliant. Bands on stage, loads of clowns wandering about with big ears on, face painting for kids etc. etc. I wonder if any of the "new" Labour Councils - if there are any left - will have the nerve to do something similar when Thatcher finally croaks it?
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2008, 10:21:53 pm »
loads of clowns wandering about with big ears

Wow, so Prince Charles turned up in person on his wedding day?

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #113 on: July 17, 2008, 10:26:03 pm »
Wow, so Prince Charles turned up in person on his wedding day?

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #114 on: July 17, 2008, 10:34:12 pm »
Wow, so Prince Charles turned up in person on his wedding day?

If there is something organised I will be there if not I will be having a few very large Whiskies at home, whilst getting facial cramps from having a 'perma-grin'.
It's already organised, the saturday after she dies there's a big party with Billy Bragg and maybe Costello.

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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #115 on: July 18, 2008, 10:27:46 am »
It's already organised, the saturday after she dies there's a big party with Billy Bragg and maybe Costello.

First time you posted that I thought you were joking. Got a link mate?
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #116 on: July 18, 2008, 10:30:42 am »
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #117 on: July 18, 2008, 01:05:32 pm »
First time you posted that I thought you were joking. Got a link mate?
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #118 on: July 18, 2008, 01:06:25 pm »
This is fascinating.

When I was a little lad we were taught that Margaret Thatcher took unpleasant but necessary steps to save Britain's ailing economy, and rightfully so.

I have to say that reading all of these posts is a real eye-opener.
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Re: Thatcher to get a state funeral
« Reply #119 on: July 18, 2008, 01:11:14 pm »
http://londonclasswar.org/newswire/index.php?itemid=237

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