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« Reply #160 on: November 1, 2017, 09:36:56 am »
What a great come back from Lanus

The passion in the stands in Argentina is incredible, I’m off there for 2 and half weeks in April So hoping to see plenty of football

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« Reply #161 on: November 1, 2017, 10:41:08 am »
What a comeback!  Down 3-0 on aggregate with 45 minutes left, Lanus turn it around!


what an amazing comeback - maybe a lesson for Gremio tonight not to get complacent. I live in Porto Alegre, I can't tell you how excited they are for this.

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« Reply #162 on: November 2, 2017, 12:17:46 am »
0-1 Barcelona 30 mins - yikes

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« Reply #163 on: November 2, 2017, 01:24:25 am »

Gremio 0-1 Barcelona SC full-time in the other semi-final.

Highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQj8xnhsnco


The Copa Liberatadores Final will be Gremio vs Lanus - 1st leg on Wednesday 22nd November, and 2nd leg Wednesday 29th November.



Flamengo 3-3 Fluminense was the final score in the Copa Sudamericana quarter-final (4-3 on aggregate to Flamengo)

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« Reply #164 on: November 2, 2017, 01:39:39 am »
0-1   


Fireworks blasting of all over The City here :D   

Gremio v Lanus in the Final

1st leg in Porto Alegre on the 22nd I believe and the return in BA on the 29th

Goodnight :D

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« Reply #165 on: November 5, 2017, 02:16:11 pm »

Corinthians beat Palmeiras (1st vs 3rd) 3-2 earlier tonight.

Highlights here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThMcjg0gMn8


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« Reply #166 on: November 15, 2017, 11:23:04 pm »

Corinthians won their 7th League Title earlier tonight after beating Fluminense at home.

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Corinthians 0-1 Fluminense after 2 mins - https://streamable.com/0qtze
1-1 after 46 mins - https://streamable.com/zvt44
2-1 to Corinthians on 49 mins - https://streamable.com/xq2fr
3-1 to Corinthians on 85 mins - https://streamable.com/1tl5t

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« Reply #167 on: November 22, 2017, 06:29:50 pm »
Gremio v Lanus 1st leg tonight

Gauchas getting excited and firing up the bbqs
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« Reply #169 on: November 22, 2017, 11:51:56 pm »
watching this on Bet 365. Will many Lanus fans travel to this?

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« Reply #170 on: November 23, 2017, 12:20:22 am »
They just carved out a good chance and I heard the yelp of excitement from away fans! sounds like they took a few!

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« Reply #171 on: November 23, 2017, 01:10:22 am »

Announcers are confused, they keep mentioning Everton.  ;)

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« Reply #172 on: November 23, 2017, 01:20:03 am »
He's actually a bit nifty

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« Reply #173 on: November 23, 2017, 02:36:25 am »
Gremio v Lanus 1st leg tonight

Gauchas getting excited and firing up the bbqs

Beautiful - am envious :)


Gremio vs Lanus - 1st leg of the Copa Libertadores Final highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghW7mEq8qaM

The 2nd leg is next Wednesday 29th November - with an 11.45pm kick off (UK time)


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« Reply #174 on: November 28, 2017, 01:37:29 am »
One year ago - seems like longer.  RIP to all the dead - hope their families and friends are doing a little better.



Chapecoense plane crash: How the club is still defying the odds one year on

By Tim Vickery







On the night of Monday, 28 November last year I did a radio report on Chapecoense, a club from a small town in southern Brazil who had made remarkable progress.

Inside a decade they had progressed from outside Brazil's four national divisions to become the first club from the country to make it to a continental final since 2013.

At that very moment, they were on their way to Medellin in Colombia for the first leg of the final of the Copa Sudamericana, a Europa League equivalent, against Atletico Nacional.

A few hours later I was woken up by a phone call. Their plane had gone down on its approach to Medellin airport.

I scurried for details. Along with the team, coaching staff and directors there were plenty of journalists on board - including, I was alarmed to see, a friend of mine - Paulo Julio Clement, known to everyone as PJ.

The early details brought hope. There were survivors. It seemed there might be many of them. The local authorities requested those in the area with SUVs come to help ferry them to hospital. There was a chance.

I sent a text message to Paulo, and kept answering the phone and doing radio and TV reports.

By coincidence, that morning I was booked to do the Brazilian TV show on which I had got to know Paulo. I could have cancelled, and kept on doing radio work in English. But being on the show seemed the right thing to do, and so we spent the morning on air as the news kept coming in.

It was a rollercoaster. Goalkeeper Danilo, whose heroics had taken Chapecoense to the final, was found alive - but died soon afterwards.

The search for survivors was abandoned. There was no more hope. But then centre-back Neto was found alive. Perhaps there would be others.

There were not.

In all, of 77 people on board, 71 lost their lives.

Two of the crew - air hostess Ximena Suarez and technician Erwin Tumuri - survived along with three players - Neto, midfielder Alan Ruschel and goalkeeper Jakson Follmann.

Ruschel has resumed his career with the club, Neto is in training to make a comeback next year and Follmann, who lost part of a leg, had to retire.


The service at Chapecoense's stadium was a deeply moving and emotional occasion




All of the coaching staff and directors died, along with 20 journalists. One, Rafael Henzel, survived.

The coffins of the deceased were flown back to Chapeco for a deeply moving service in driving rain.

Equally touching was the gesture of the Colombian team, Atletico Nacional.

At the time the match was to have been played they threw the doors of the stadium open and, with in front of a packed house with thousands outside the ground, held a heartfelt service.

Nacional suggested Chapecoense be awarded the Copa Sudamericana title.

This was more than just a symbolic gesture.

It also ensured Chapecoense would make their debut in the Copa Libertadores, South America's Champions League, bringing in much-needed revenue for a club facing a daunting task of rebuilding.
Three managers and an ineligible player - but Chapecoense stay up

After the disaster, it was suggested Chapecoense might be protected from relegation for two or three years to give them time to rebuild.

The club were quick to dismiss the proposal.

They wanted to stand or fall by their own merits. They were giving themselves a Herculean task, but it was made a little easier by two factors.

First, there is often considerable end-of-year turnover at Brazilian clubs - teams can often go through big changes.

The same methodical steps were taken that had served the club so well in its rise. The coaching staff had indicated some future transfer targets, which were followed up. Respected coach Vagner Mancini came in to take charge, and other clubs helped out by sending players on loan.


A total rebuilding job - it has been a superb achievement by Chapecoense to survive in the Brazilian top flight




Second, they had a few months to find a blend - the first division did not start until the middle of May.

In Brazil, the opening few months of the year are given over to the State Championships - Chapecoense compete in the state of Santa Catarina.

So they had some time to build for the big challenge - and, when it finally started, they began the first division campaign very well. After the first few rounds, exactly six months after the accident, they were top of the table.

It would clearly be impossible to maintain such momentum, but those early points proved very useful.

Chapecoense also performed with great credit in their debut Libertadores campaign, and it could have been even better.

Big centre-back Luiz Otavio was suspended for their trip to Lanus of Argentina in the middle of May.

It seems there had been some mix-up in sending out the confirmation email, but the club were informed before kick-off that he was not eligible.

They picked him anyway - and he scored the decisive goal in their 2-1 win.

The game was awarded to Lanus - and the lost points cost Chapecoense their place in the knockout phase.

Lanus, meanwhile, are contesting the final against Gremio of Brazil, with the second leg on Wednesday.


Chapecoense, then, were back in the Copa Sudamericana.

But their quest to retain the title ended with a 4-0 aggregate defeat by compatriots Flamengo.

There was some controversy with the first goal - though it seems the referee was correct.

Chapecoense striker Wellington Paulista, briefly of West Ham, was not happy.

"They sent a referee from Bolivia, or wherever, to complicate the game," he said. "We had a chance. But this ref from Bolivia, or wherever, put an end to our dream."

The referee was in fact from Peru, and the taint of prejudice in Wellington Paulista's comments was especially sad coming from a player of Chapecoense, a club whose suffering had united the continent.

In addition to their continental adventures, Chapecoense also played a friendly in Barcelona in August, with Ruschel returning to the field in a match that raised the club's profile in Europe.

But ensuring first division survival had always been the club's priority.

After the encouraging start to the campaign, things rapidly became more difficult for Chapecoense.

Vagner Mancini's strategy was aggressive. He reasoned the road to salvation lay in taking risks to ensure enough games were won. But the team started to leak goals - and defensive solidity traditionally has a high value in the south of Brazil.

Mancini was sacked and replaced by youth specialist Vinicius Eutropio, but the team's away form slumped, and the experienced Gilson Kleina was brought in.

He has overseen a strong finish to the campaign, with the team pulling away from the relegation dogfight and making sure of their place in next year's first division with four rounds still to go - a mighty achievement.

The season ends on Sunday with a home match against Coritiba, and Rui Costa - the director in charge of football - said of staying up: "I feel like a winner of the Champions League."
A difficult year off the field

Investigations are ongoing, but the cause of the crash seems clear enough.

The aeroplane was operating at the very limit of its fuel capacity, and should have refuelled between Santa Cruz de la Sierra in Bolivia and Medellin.

The little LaMia airline had recently established itself as a specialist in carrying football teams around South America.

Shortly before the same aircraft had taken Argentina, Lionel Messi and all, on a long journey that was also dangerously close to fuel capacity.

LaMia had two operational aircraft and their licence was suspended shortly after the crash.

Celia Castedo, from the Bolivian air authority, had apparently pointed out beforehand the obvious deficiency in the flight plan, though she says she had no power to prevent the plane from taking off.

Fearing for her life, Castedo quickly left Bolivia to seek asylum in Brazil and has spent the past year there.

By the end of 2016 an investigation by Colombian officials said there was no technical failure and blamed the pilot, the airline and Bolivian regulators.

Back in Chapecoense, two associations have been formed to represent the families of those who perished - although there is considerable overlap between them.



Lorries were used to transport the coffins of the victims to the stadium for last year's memorial service




ABRAVIC have been dealing with day-to-day issues, such as school fees and medical bills.

AFAV-C is focused more on bureaucratic and legal problems - such as the potentially complex question of the extent of Chapecoense's liability for the accident.

There have been tensions.

The president of AFAV-C is Fabiane Belle, wife of the club physiologist.

"After the initial commotion," she said, "we did not have any crisis management. We were left without support."

ABRAVIC president Gabriel Santos Cordeiro de Andrade said "we had a little problem at the beginning. As Chapecoense lost many directors, they had organisational difficulties in the first months, but now we're moving towards an agreement".

Those who died a year ago will never be forgotten by the people of Chapeco, and their memory has been honoured by the displays of the team in 2017.

In the long term a small-town provincial club can hardly hope to compete on equal terms with the giants of the Brazilian game.

But with the same low-profile solid approach that has served them so well in recent times, Chapecoense will aim to keep punching well above their weight.


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« Reply #175 on: November 28, 2017, 10:14:13 am »
Interesting (regarding Wagner Mancini) how Chapeco ensured their survival when they won a game against Vitoria, managed now by Wagner Mancini. I saw it. Quite emotional. Game ended up being played in an absolute downpour which turned the pitch into a waterpark, players frequently gave up trying to pass along the "ground" and tried to keep it in the air.
The defeat left Vitoria back in the relegation scrap. They played a do or die game away against Ponte Preta on Sunday, they were 2 down after 20 minutes then a centre half of Ponte was caught "fingering" the Vitoria centre forward, (you can you tube it yourself !), he was sent off with his fellow centre half accusing him of the crime. The said centre forward, Trellis, went on to score twice as Vitoria fought back to take the lead 3-2. Then the pitch was invaded by irate Ponte fans who chased everyone off the pitch. They in turn were chased off the pitch and out of the stadium by baton weaving, tear gas firing police. The game was declared as a victory for Vitoria. Ponte were relegated. Vitoria now need to better or equal the results of 2 of the 3 teams below them in order to survive. It is likely they will have to win. They play against Flemengo, at home (where they simply cannot win) in a match Flamengo also have to win to guarentee a place in the Sulamericano next season.
Trellis, the goal scoring, wounded centre forward, got himself booked celebrating the winner and will now miss this final match.
Next Sunday evening will be very interesting in the relegation scrap.

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« Reply #176 on: November 28, 2017, 12:06:32 pm »

In hindsight, Chapecoense not being relegated is a blessing that will help the community cope immensely.

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« Reply #177 on: November 28, 2017, 02:33:10 pm »
In hindsight, Chapecoense not being relegated is a blessing that will help the community cope immensely.

Absolutely. If there was one club and community who deserved a good break then it was them.

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« Reply #178 on: November 29, 2017, 09:27:22 am »
Tonight: 20:45 (UK 23:45)

Lanús (0) - (1) Grêmio

All set for big night at "The Fortress"





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« Reply #180 on: November 29, 2017, 05:20:51 pm »
Wagner Mancini
What a name this is.  Just imagine what the Pink Panther theme could’ve sounded like.

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« Reply #181 on: November 29, 2017, 11:47:39 pm »
Here we go

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« Reply #182 on: November 29, 2017, 11:50:13 pm »

Cracking stream in HD (Spanish comms, I think) - http://www.dailysport.club/2017/11/lanus-gremio.html

a few live videos on youtube too...
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« Reply #183 on: November 29, 2017, 11:55:38 pm »
south American players must have harder bones - tackles are fucking brutal so far.

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« Reply #184 on: November 30, 2017, 12:10:49 am »
south American players must have harder bones - tackles are fucking brutal so far.

Very firm start to the game - still some good passages of play and skills on show - really decent and entertaining so far :)
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« Reply #185 on: November 30, 2017, 12:16:29 am »
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« Reply #186 on: November 30, 2017, 12:19:52 am »

Fernandinho goal on 27 mins for Gremio - https://streamable.com/804ya

Bad, bad mistake from the Lanus defender...
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« Reply #187 on: November 30, 2017, 12:34:36 am »

Luan makes it 0-2 to Gremio on 42 mins - very calmly taken - https://streamable.com/tr9oy


Lanus pull a goal back and make it 1-2 on 72 mins - a penalty by Sand - https://streamable.com/wcsnm


Ramiro sent off for Gremio on 83 mins...
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« Reply #188 on: November 30, 2017, 01:20:52 am »
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« Reply #189 on: November 30, 2017, 01:38:59 am »
last minute, still  1-2 (3) 5 mins extra time - Lanus need a miracle

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« Reply #190 on: November 30, 2017, 01:45:40 am »

Well in Gremio  :champ

2-1 winners on the night, 3-1 winners overall.

Decent game that - really enjoyed it.
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Re: South American Football. Leagues, Copa Libertadores etc.
« Reply #191 on: November 30, 2017, 01:48:18 am »
I'm in Porto Alegre - I can't describe the noise - here it's fucking mental 4th of July / Bommie night / New years Eve

And my neighborhood is a quiet one :D


Well in Grêmio - now for Madrid in December

Goodnight ooj

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« Reply #192 on: November 30, 2017, 01:49:04 am »
great away support for Gremio tonight, 4k plus in there!

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« Reply #193 on: November 30, 2017, 01:54:30 am »
well done Gremio!

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« Reply #194 on: November 30, 2017, 02:00:21 am »
I'm in Porto Alegre - I can't describe the noise - here it's fucking mental 4th of July / Bommie night / New years Eve

And my neighborhood is a quiet one :D


Well in Grêmio - now for Madrid in December

Goodnight ooj

Superb mate - hope you get to fully enjoy it :D


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5-minute match highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuRe02QYVLA or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUFbXnHQ2yM


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« Reply #195 on: December 6, 2017, 03:28:45 pm »
What a name this is.  Just imagine what the Pink Panther theme could’ve sounded like.

Well his good deeds saved him and Vitoria in the end. After 93 minutes Vitoria conceeded a penalty to Flamengo which was scored and was sending them down. Chapecoence to the rescue, the team he helped to put together after the crash. They scored an injury time winner against Coritiba which sent them down instead. The usual end of season Vitoria chaos. So they survive to probably repeat the same story next season.

Congrats Gremio, happy for Lucas.

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« Reply #197 on: December 13, 2017, 11:34:14 pm »
Cheers man! Will check it out
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« Reply #198 on: December 14, 2017, 04:11:39 pm »

^ I missed it - went to watch The Last Jedi.

Seems a decent game though; 5 minute highlights here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBsIwnnx-sA (Flamengo in their familiar red/black hooped shirts)
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« Reply #199 on: December 15, 2017, 06:50:59 pm »
There's some controversy coming out of the Gremio club about Barcelona tapping up Arthur, with a public photograph of him in a Barca shirt before they have even made an offer.  Gremio won't make a complaint to FIFA, but of greater relevance to us is whether this would mean the end of Barca's courting of our own Brazilian playmaker?

Arthur's release clause is said to be 50 million euros.