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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23080 on: July 23, 2012, 03:20:18 pm »
Exactly my point.

You said he was higher profile than Price aswell, which is absolute bollocks.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23081 on: July 23, 2012, 03:20:35 pm »
An easy night and a nice pay day for Price. It may not help him in terms of experience, but it will raise his profile massively. Like it it not Audley is still a big name with the media and casual fans. Plenty of people don't know who Price is but will hear his name now.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23082 on: July 23, 2012, 03:21:59 pm »
Trouble is, every heavyweight who's half decent is waiting for the Klitschko's to fuck off, nobody's going to stall their progress by getting beaten by another contender.  Vitali's going to be retired in a few months, so people have got their eye on that vacant belt.

It's a big problem for Price, he's good enough for people to be wary of him, but he's not got the box-office draw to tempt anyone into taking the risk.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23083 on: July 23, 2012, 03:22:12 pm »
You said he was higher profile than Price aswell, which is absolute bollocks.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23084 on: July 23, 2012, 03:23:58 pm »
You said he was higher profile than Price aswell, which is absolute bollocks.

I reckon more casual fans know fury than Price. And a fight with Harrison changes that

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23085 on: July 23, 2012, 03:40:44 pm »
I reckon more casual fans know fury than Price. And a fight with Harrison changes that
agreed, lots of guys at work know who Tyson Fury is, none of them have heard of Price.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23086 on: July 23, 2012, 03:47:35 pm »
I can't believe that, an olympic medallist and for me a future heavyweight world champion is less well known than Tyson Fury.  :-\

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23087 on: July 23, 2012, 03:58:23 pm »
Fury has fought regularly, and he's been on terrestrial TV though.  Plus he's not bad at getting his name out there, Price is a little less likely to blow his own trumpet, and his career's been a bit stop start.

I'm glad he's going to be on TV, but I'd rather it wasn't the backwater that is Boxnation.  Still not sure why Sky dropped him, to be honest.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23088 on: July 23, 2012, 04:01:05 pm »
You said he was higher profile than Price aswell, which is absolute bollocks.

He has an intercontinental belt and is calling out the Klitschkos. Price has British and Commonwealth belts and is calling out Audley Harrison.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23089 on: July 23, 2012, 04:04:24 pm »
Although, in fairness, that Intercontinental belt is shite, and Fat Mick won't let him anywhere near a Klitschko yet.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23090 on: July 23, 2012, 04:13:42 pm »
agreed, lots of guys at work know who Tyson Fury is, none of them have heard of Price.

Maybe he needs to punch himself in the face. No-one knew who Fury was until he did that.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23091 on: July 23, 2012, 04:40:05 pm »
I can't believe that, an olympic medallist and for me a future heavyweight world champion is less well known than Tyson Fury.  :-\

I know a few people who have no interest in Boxing, but have heard of Tyson Fury, and they are only aware of his existence beecause of his name.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23092 on: July 23, 2012, 09:12:55 pm »
Some shit spouted in here fucking hell

I am not really interested in it mainly because I've never liked watching Fraudley fight but it's a live fight because it's a Heavyweight fight and Harrison does have a dig on him see Sprott as an example, whilst Harrison is in the ring he still dangerous and regardless of what people think, people still watch him

Add to the fact he isn't on Hayes radar, Chisora has just fought, Fury won't fight him and he has already cleaned our McDermott and Sexton, there isn't much left 

And for people saying he needs to move on or fight the Klitschko's it'll still only be his 14th fight, fucking hell

Says more about the British Heavyweight division than it does about Price or Maloney, I know he would rather fight Fury but what is he meant to do, he wants to win the Lonsdale belt outright so he has to take British fights

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23093 on: July 23, 2012, 09:53:42 pm »
Who else domestically is worth a piss? Fury or Hennessey already ducked him (though it was stupid and short sighted of Maloney not to have the fight on terrestrial). Who else is there? Sprott, Skelton. At least Audley has a name

I wouldn't even be certain that price wins. Has anyone thrown a punch at him in the pros. He was dropped several times as an amateur so we dont know what his whiskers are like

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23094 on: July 23, 2012, 10:12:30 pm »
Who else domestically is worth a piss? Fury or Hennessey already ducked him (though it was stupid and short sighted of Maloney not to have the fight on terrestrial). Who else is there? Sprott, Skelton. At least Audley has a name

I wouldn't even be certain that price wins. Has anyone thrown a punch at him in the pros. He was dropped several times as an amateur so we dont know what his whiskers are like

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23095 on: July 23, 2012, 10:27:26 pm »
Hightower v Price. My goodness. Don't even bother hiring judges. Price would 9.9/10 smash him to bits but Towers has height and power as well so you never know. It would be a fun fight but would do fcuk all for Prices profile. Smashing everyone's favorite pantomime villain would do wonders for his career

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« Reply #23096 on: July 24, 2012, 09:50:12 am »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23097 on: July 24, 2012, 10:08:41 am »
Bellew v Edison Miranda in September.

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« Reply #23098 on: July 24, 2012, 10:43:16 am »
Bellew v Edison Miranda in September.

Now that's a proper fight!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23099 on: July 24, 2012, 11:30:52 am »
Bellew will smash him. Easily. Miranda north of 160lbs has been trash. He had only one thing going for him and that was power. This hasnt translated to the higher weights so I dont see how he troubles Bellew

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23100 on: July 24, 2012, 11:34:20 am »
Darren Barker is fighting on the undercard aswell... Shame it isn't in Liverpool though.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23101 on: July 24, 2012, 12:21:58 pm »
Some shit spouted in here fucking hell

I am not really interested in it mainly because I've never liked watching Fraudley fight but it's a live fight because it's a Heavyweight fight and Harrison does have a dig on him see Sprott as an example, whilst Harrison is in the ring he still dangerous and regardless of what people think, people still watch him

Add to the fact he isn't on Hayes radar, Chisora has just fought, Fury won't fight him and he has already cleaned our McDermott and Sexton, there isn't much left 

And for people saying he needs to move on or fight the Klitschko's it'll still only be his 14th fight, fucking hell

Says more about the British Heavyweight division than it does about Price or Maloney, I know he would rather fight Fury but what is he meant to do, he wants to win the Lonsdale belt outright so he has to take British fights

No-one's said he should be fighting the Klitschkos.

We've got a lad here who is a fantastic prospect, a lot of people think he could eventually get a world title. Can you blame them for being excited by that thought? I'm sure it's something he thinks about himself. But at 29, he hasn't got long. It was his choice not to turn pro earlier, wasn't it? At this stage every fight needs to be a step towards that goal of a world title. Being the last of a long line of people to beat Harrison, even if he were to humiliate him completely, is it really that step?

I can see that this might be the highest profile fight his people can get, but that doesn't make it ideal for his career. It might marginally raise his profile in the UK, but he needs to get his name heard in the States, and they don't give a toss about Harrison, he's no-one.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23102 on: July 24, 2012, 03:56:39 pm »
Why?

Why not? Fraudley is obviously seen as low risk by that lot and thats why they've took it. Hes low risk but still a name of sorts.

Id rather Price stepped it up, didnt know he was 29 either. Still laugh when people think Fury is scared of him though, some people really need to step back and think about how things work. Its not all about I think im better than you lets fight, never has been. Its about what makes business sense. But nevermind. Itll be a good fight if it happens somewhere down the line, hopefully with a big prize on offer.

I dont know where Price goes next, but im sure he could find someone other than Harrison, Chisora? What wrong with him? Hes a live fighter, hes a good test of him. Hes not world class by any means but hes a tough domestic heavyweight. he'd take the fight, even though the number of losses hes on, id watch that itd be interesting to see how Price does when hes got someone coming at him a lot. Good fight imo.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23103 on: July 24, 2012, 10:04:01 pm »
No-one's said he should be fighting the Klitschkos.

We've got a lad here who is a fantastic prospect, a lot of people think he could eventually get a world title. Can you blame them for being excited by that thought? I'm sure it's something he thinks about himself. But at 29, he hasn't got long. It was his choice not to turn pro earlier, wasn't it? At this stage every fight needs to be a step towards that goal of a world title. Being the last of a long line of people to beat Harrison, even if he were to humiliate him completely, is it really that step?

I can see that this might be the highest profile fight his people can get, but that doesn't make it ideal for his career. It might marginally raise his profile in the UK, but he needs to get his name heard in the States, and they don't give a toss about Harrison, he's no-one.

It's a learning fight in his 14th fight so he can win the British title outright BEFORE stepping up

Not hard to decipher really!!!!

He doesn't need to be thinking about the States or the Klitschko's or anything else yet

And 29 is still plenty young enough it's not like he has had a hard boxing career till now

As for the Fury discussion that fault lays squarely on the promoters and TV, I don't believe for one minute they're scared of one another

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23104 on: July 24, 2012, 10:27:38 pm »
The Lonsdale belt is far and away the best belt in boxing. It is pure which is a funny word in boxing but it doesn't respect your profile, promotional power etc. Any John Doe that works hard enough and strings good wins together domestically  can fight for it and work hard to keep one outright

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23105 on: July 24, 2012, 10:30:13 pm »
Price hasnt fought anyone near his size, hasn't fought a puncher, nor a southpaw.Audley is all 3(domestically has to be considered a puncher)

This is a good test and a step up. One that Pice could well lose

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23106 on: July 24, 2012, 10:43:14 pm »
Very OT but where is Paul Smith. I havent seen him mentioned in maybe 18months.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23107 on: July 24, 2012, 10:57:27 pm »
Paul Smith is still active. Currently doing a stint with boxnation, very good commentator. I belive he and 7777 are close or related so he would be better served to give you the lowdown

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23108 on: July 24, 2012, 11:09:19 pm »
Very OT but where is Paul Smith. I havent seen him mentioned in maybe 18months.



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« Reply #23109 on: July 24, 2012, 11:12:29 pm »
Fighting in September/October.

It will be good to see him back fighting in Liverpool i'm presuming. He was always entertaining.

Hope to see nathan cleverly back in the ring soon too. Watching all this Haye/Audley/Chisora bullshit really puts me off the London heavyweights. All knobheads. Thank god for tyson and price. I enjoy tyson. I like what he has to say when he talks. None of this talking in riddles some boxers tend to talk in.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23110 on: July 24, 2012, 11:52:52 pm »
I like Tyson Fury. He always brings the heat and he doesn't waste time. Plus he is a very mean body puncher which is amazing for somebody his size. He wants to get you the fcuk out of there and then go home. Excellent for betting purposes, although him switching to southpaw and showing patience meant that he didn't take Rogan out quickly enough for one of my bet. The c*nt.(Only joking Mirra)

Once the Klits retire he will win a major title. Both him and price are better than those wannabes over the pond. Arreola, Seth Mitchell, etc are tosh and Fury would do all of them. I think price is the real deal but I need to see him in a gut check before I proclaim him the saviour of the HW division

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23111 on: July 28, 2012, 12:24:20 pm »
Agree with that Clayton, I think for me Tyson and Price do the likes of Arreola and co, though I do rate Tor Hammer (spelling) after keeping an eye on him for a while now due to Bobby D marking my card a couple of years ago about him. I dont know how long itll be before they are ready to take a Klitschko on, id like to see them both step it up though and make some waves against big names. Especially Price, not having a pop at him by any means but hes 29, I didnt know he was that old! Well a year younger than me actually so it isnt that old :D, im just saying id like to see him fighting a higher level of opponent than Harrison. He might as well just pound the bag for a few rounds, he'd learn more. Id like to see him knock out Chisora, that'd be a good jump in competition, Del is a handful when hes in shape and his loss to Haye and Fury aside, he was robbed against Helienus and gave Vitali a good go. Im just pleased we have two heavyweights with the potential these two have. Of course id like Ty to leave Price Halifaxed on the canvas but as a fan im excited at the prospect of both of these fellas.

Just heard Tony Bellew is going to fight Edison Miranda in Sept, should be an exciting fight that one as both can bang and Bellew can make a real statement if he can beat Miranda. Its a jump up for him but I think hes good enough to handle it. Comes across as a good lad Bellew, im a fan.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23112 on: August 1, 2012, 08:11:00 am »
Anyone know when Tom Stalker is due to fight in the Olympics, is light welter today?  Been trying to keep an eye on this, but seem to have lost track?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23113 on: August 1, 2012, 10:41:57 am »
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« Reply #23114 on: August 1, 2012, 12:53:00 pm »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23115 on: August 2, 2012, 01:18:06 pm »
Frank has so many pissed off young fighters, really needs to sort himself out, he's shambolic at the moment.

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« Reply #23116 on: August 2, 2012, 01:42:06 pm »
Warren could do with a few new stars as well, because he's got pretty much fuck all at the moment.  If any of the British lads win Gold this month, normally he'd be after them.  I think he'd struggle to get any of them at the moment though.

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« Reply #23117 on: August 3, 2012, 07:38:18 pm »
What a plum, predicted this would happen

Amir Khan dropped the biggest hint yet in a television interview saying that Manny Steward was on his radar and that in just a week's time, he will likely be with someone else.

The interview would be considered as lacking respect for his current trainer Roach and people may say Khan should really be discussing the scenario privately with his team. The comments are either a thinly veiled swipe at his trainer - or a genuine plan in motion.

"I've had so many trainers approach me in the past week but Steward is the main one who's approached me," bragged Khan.

"Many trainers have said they can make me into a big, unbeatable fighter. It's all about taking my time on this, it's a big decision to make. I'm still with Freddie at the moment, but in a week's time things might change."

Amir, who was knocked out by Danny Garcia last month still regards himself as an unbeatable force:-

"I think I'm one of the best offensive fighters in the world." he said.

"I just need to work on my defence. I really think to be one of the leading fighters, you need to have both. There are going to be a lot of things I'm going to change, but you will see a new Amir Khan.

"I wanted the rematch with Danny Garcia, but he didn't want to fight me, he's now fighting Erik Morales," he said.

"Hopefully I can fight the winner of that - I want to stay busy, get a fight in December, then a rematch against Garcia."


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23118 on: August 4, 2012, 10:18:09 am »
Khan really is a tool, I cringe everytime he opens his mouth! Im one of the best offensive fighters in the world, no Amir, your not. Throwing fast wild punches doesnt make you a good offensive fighter, sorry kid. The best offensive fighters are accurate, calm and place the punches where they do the most damage. Proper disrespectful to Freddie how he is behaving like, should be kept private. Not that im arsed anymore about Khan, I hope Garcia knocks him out again, but id like to see Kel get a shot at him and level him before that happens!
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #23119 on: August 4, 2012, 12:01:10 pm »
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