Topic: Man City - cheating bastards rumbled

[FlashGordon]

I don’t think it’s terrible...

But it could be for any club, in any country, it has nothing that you look at and think it’s a city top...

It's being edgy for edgy's sake.

[redgriffin73]

What the fuck is going on with that top?

[Morgana]

https://twitter.com/City_Xtra/status/1260910076711374850

 

Whoever designed that getup should be fired immediately.

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

All feels a bit like JD Sports x Stone Roses mash up.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I don’t think it’s terrible...

really?

Is this your fashion sense?

[CHOPPER]

That's the worst clobber I've ever seen. Clearly trying to copy the class Nigeria stuff by Nike a few years back.

Mancs, always have, and always will have, the fashion sense of your average North Korean granny.

[Dim Glas]

Anyone need a laugh this morning, take a look at this hilarity 

https://twitter.com/the1886club/status/1261778323929169920

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Anyone need a laugh this morning, take a look at this hilarity 

https://twitter.com/the1886club/status/1261778323929169920

There are some funny posts in that lot,not sure if 33 is on a wind up or not (not bothered to check his timeline)


This reply is the best of the lot

[Bread]

Anyone need a laugh this morning, take a look at this hilarity 

https://twitter.com/the1886club/status/1261778323929169920

My favourite part is where he claims they signed players that weren't big names like *ahem* Aguero, David Silva, and Leroy Sane. Can tell he's never watch a foreign match in his life, every football fan and their mother knows these players were tearing it up for Atletico, Valencia and Schalke.

Then he claims Sterling and De Bruyne were "rejected" by their Premier League clubs and improved by City. I mean, Sterling was never "rejected" by Liverpool, and De Bruyne was rejected by a club that rejects everyone and then he tore the Bundesliga up with Wolfsburg. The arrogance in this thread is staggering.

[Nitramdorf]

Anyone need a laugh this morning, take a look at this hilarity 

https://twitter.com/the1886club/status/1261778323929169920

"Just to be clear, I do think the takeover helped a little"  Jesus Christ god help us

[Elzar]

There is Chelsea fans and City fans arguing over which club bought success 

[Dim Glas]

"Just to be clear, I do think the takeover helped a little"  Jesus Christ god help us

I think that's my favourite

My favourite part is where he claims they signed players that weren't big names like *ahem* Aguero, David Silva, and Leroy Sane. Can tell he's never watch a foreign match in his life, every football fan and their mother knows these players were tearing it up for Atletico, Valencia and Schalke.

Then he claims Sterling and De Bruyne were "rejected" by their Premier League clubs and improved by City. I mean, Sterling was never "rejected" by Liverpool, and De Bruyne was rejected by a club that rejects everyone and then he tore the Bundesliga up with Wolfsburg. The arrogance in this thread is staggering.

Yeah, add Laporte to the list of these young prospects Man City have made apparently 

And De Bruyne 'improved fantastically' at City. I mean, you'd hope such a talented player would improve with age. But two of his best seasons where with Wolfsburg and Bremen, it was clear as day to anyone watching him how amazing he was even at that tender age.

[Bread]

There is Chelsea fans and City fans arguing over which club bought success 

I feel like some neutrals go easy on Chelsea these days, simply because City's "revolution" dwarfs their own. I assume that's because Chelsea were closer to a title challenge in 2003 than Man City were 2008. Chelsea already had a little bit of quality in their ranks, City needed a complete rebuild.

That said, Chelsea did buy Makelele, Duff, Joe Cole, Geremi, Glen Johnson and Hernan Crespo in the first window, so I guess Chelsea needed more than just a little push for that first title.

[redgriffin73]

Someone in that thread also seems to think the old CWC is the UEFA Cup.

[Scouser-Tommy]

There is Chelsea fans and City fans arguing over which club bought success 

Both, is the correct answer.

But let them crack on fighting between them 

[Crosby Nick]

Someone in that thread also seems to think the old CWC is the UEFA Cup.

Fucking morons.

It does annoy me that so many shite English teams have won a Cup Winners Cup and somehow it’s the only one we didn’t win, when generally it’s was far and away the easiest to win. That United run time the final in 1991 was obscene. And obviously now we’ll never win it.

[duvva 💅]

Fucking morons.

It does annoy me that so many shite English teams have won a Cup Winners Cup and somehow it’s the only one we didn’t win, when generally it’s was far and away the easiest to win. That United run time the final in 1991 was obscene. And obviously now we’ll never win it.

Ah we were too busy winning leagues most of the time so rarely qualified for what was ultimately very much the third level European competition. You said it yourself there are some obscure teams who’ve won it, just because they won the FA Cup. I know it sometimes feels like a gap especially after we went close on a couple of the rare occasions we were in it but not one that you should let annoy you too much

[Crosby Nick]

Ah we were too busy winning leagues most of the time so rarely qualified for what was ultimately very much the third level European competition. You said it yourself there are some obscure teams who’ve won it, just because they won the FA Cup. I know it sometimes feels like a gap especially after we went close on a couple of the rare occasions we were in it but not one that you should let annoy you too much

I know. I only remember us being in it in 92/93 when we were shite and 96/97 when we made the semis but think the quality was high that year. We lost to PSG who lost to Barca, think someone like Fiorentina made the other semi.

We also lost to Dortmund in the final back in the 60s didn’t we.

[FiSh77]

I know. I only remember us being in it in 92/93 when we were shite and 96/97 when we made the semis but think the quality was high that year. We lost to PSG who lost to Barca, think someone like Fiorentina made the other semi.

We also lost to Dortmund in the final back in the 60s didn’t we.

Yeah, got beat 2-1 at Hampden

Also got knocked out on away goals by Ferencvaros who made it to the final in 74/75, don't think we played in it again until we won the cup in 92

[duvva 💅]

I know. I only remember us being in it in 92/93 when we were shite and 96/97 when we made the semis but think the quality was high that year. We lost to PSG who lost to Barca, think someone like Fiorentina made the other semi.

We also lost to Dortmund in the final back in the 60s didn’t we.

That PSG tie was a tough one to take. Missed so many chances in the second leg almost getting back into it after James nightmare in Paris. The Final in 66 was the other one I was referring too. Losing to a goal that hit the crossbar and went in off Yeats I think

[Paisley79]

Baffingly, that 33 guy claims City dominated English football during the 1930s. Err... they won 2 trophies - 1934 FA Cup & the League in 1937. AND they were relegated the following year.

Meanwhile, Arsenal won 5 championships & 2 FA Cups!

He also reckons they dominated during the 60s which is equally nonsensical

[Dim Glas]

Baffingly, that 33 guy claims City dominated English football during the 1930s. Err... they won 2 trophies - 1934 FA Cup & the League in 1937. AND they were relegated the following year.

Meanwhile, Arsenal won 5 championships & 2 FA Cups!

He also reckons they dominated during the 60s which is equally nonsensical

He must have genuinely thought no one would bother checking 

[Crosby Nick]

Huddersfield won the First Division three times in a row in the 30s too (Herbert Chapman) so even if you’re being generous they were only the third most successful side of that decade.

[Paisley79]

Huddersfield won the First Division three times in a row in the 30s too (Herbert Chapman) so even if you’re being generous they were only the third most successful side of that decade.

Huddersfield's hat-trick of championships was 1924-1926. Your point still stands though as Everton won more than City in the 30's. Sheffield Weds, Sunderland & City all won 1 championship & 1 FA Cup each

[Crosby Nick]

Huddersfield's hat-trick of championships was 1924-1926. Your point still stands though as Everton won more than City in the 30's. Sheffield Weds, Sunderland & City all won 1 championship & 1 FA Cup each

Gosh, was that really the 20s? Doesn’t time fly!

[Medellin]

Throwback..

Enjoy..

https://mobile.twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1250437112383426561

[sinnermichael]

Their appeal hearing is next month.

Nailed on to get reduced to a one year ban.

[redgriffin73]

Their appeal hearing is next month.

Nailed on to get reduced to a one year ban.

Yep, UEFA will try and bury the news among all the Covid stuff and hope we don't notice.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Yep, UEFA will try and bury the news among all the Covid stuff and hope we don't notice.

its not uefa they’re having that hearing is with, but do expect it to be a one year ban and nobody will be too arsed

[Yosser0_0]

Their appeal hearing is next month.

Nailed on to get reduced to a one year ban.

What are the grounds for the appeal?

Their statement was that it was "simply not true". Will they be presenting evidence to clear their name?

[swoopy]

What are the grounds for the appeal?

Their statement was that it was "simply not true". Will they be presenting evidence to clear their name?

But but UEFA can't charge us because that evidence that clearly shows were guilty was obtained illegally

[kesey]

Fucking morons.

It does annoy me that so many shite English teams have won a Cup Winners Cup and somehow it’s the only one we didn’t win, when generally it’s was far and away the easiest to win. That United run time the final in 1991 was obscene. And obviously now we’ll never win it.

I think we only played in it twice though.

1965/66
1974/75

[12C]

Baffingly, that 33 guy claims City dominated English football during the 1930s. Err... they won 2 trophies - 1934 FA Cup & the League in 1937. AND they were relegated the following year.

Meanwhile, Arsenal won 5 championships & 2 FA Cups!

He also reckons they dominated during the 60s which is equally nonsensical

Without checking I would probably say Everton won more than city in the 30s.

[Elzar]

Fucking morons.

It does annoy me that so many shite English teams have won a Cup Winners Cup and somehow it’s the only one we didn’t win, when generally it’s was far and away the easiest to win. That United run time the final in 1991 was obscene. And obviously now we’ll never win it.

We shouldn't start rewriting history and pretending we won the Intertoto cup.

[Statto Red]

Ah we were too busy winning leagues most of the time so rarely qualified for what was ultimately very much the third level European competition. You said it yourself there are some obscure teams who’ve won it, just because they won the FA Cup. I know it sometimes feels like a gap especially after we went close on a couple of the rare occasions we were in it but not one that you should let annoy you too much

Indeed, we wouldn't have played in the 77/78 cwc had we won the 77 fa cup, as we'd already qualified for the 77/78 european cup by winning the league, funnily enough United got St Etienne in the 1st round of the 77/78 cwc won 3-1 on agg but had to play the 2nd leg home tie in Plymouth due to crowd trouble in the 1st leg.

[Crosby Nick]

I think we only played in it twice though.

1965/66
1974/75

Also played in it in 92/93 after we’d won the Cup in 92. Lost to Spartak Moscow when David Burrows ended up in goal.

Also played 96/97 because United won the double. That’s when we lost to PSG in the semis.

[Statto Red]

Also played in it in 92/93 after we’d won the Cup in 92. Lost to Spartak Moscow when David Burrows ended up in goal.

Also played 96/97 because United won the double. That’s when we lost to PSG in the semis.

Yep, Chelsea won the 97/98 cwc, they beat Stuttgart in the final, the semis that year were Lokomotiv Moscow & Vicenza, i remember the Tromso vs Chelsea tie that season in Norway which was played in a blizzard.

[Red Beret]

I think we only played in it twice though.

1965/66
1974/75

To paraphrase Shankly,  "we never did badly enough to qualify".

[Ray K]

One thing that Sam Lee in the Athletic has talked about re the CAS appeal:

What else would a ban mean for City?

A Premier League points deduction is a possibility.

The Premier League has been investigating City, but it appears to be waiting for UEFA and CAS’s decisions before announcing their stance. The Premier League has its own FFP regulations, although they allow for far greater losses than UEFA does — an English top-flight club would have to make losses of more than £105 million before any punishment, which could include a points deduction.

This area is tricky as City have been found guilty by the CFCB of overstating their revenue — it is not clear whether, or by how much, City would have breached UEFA’s FFP “break-even requirement”, meaning that clubs cannot spend more than they earn. If it is established at CAS that City would have made big losses, it would be easier for the Premier League to act.

However, one hitherto overlooked element of this whole case is section J7 of the Premier League handbook, which covers “UEFA Club Licence Applicants”:

“Any club making a false statement (whether made verbally or in writing) in or in connection with an application for a UEFA Club Licence or falsifying a document produced in support of or in connection with such an application shall be in breach of these rules and shall be liable to be dealt with in accordance with the provisions of Section W of these rules.”

In short, if a club has deceived UEFA in the process of applying to play European football, it will be punished by the Premier League, which again could mean a points deduction.

So if CAS were to reject City’s appeal, the Premier League will be automatically handed a reason to punish City — regardless of any financial losses City may or may not have made — because they would have been found to have misled UEFA and also the Premier League, which is covered by section J7 of the league handbook.
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[Red Beret]

So if CAS were to reject City’s appeal, the Premier League will be automatically handed a reason to punish City — regardless of any financial losses City may or may not have made — because they would have been found to have misled UEFA and also the Premier League, which is covered by section J7 of the league handbook.
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This is very important because even if the ban is reduced they'll still be guilty, not exonerated.  That leaves the Premier League free to act.