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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #880 on: February 20, 2021, 10:16:54 pm »
Yeah, as I mentioned

???

Well what’s wrong with the statement? 1 league goal this calendar year at home.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #881 on: February 20, 2021, 10:16:59 pm »
Deleted my last post. Sorry for venting, just sick of it all.
Gonna take some time out from the footy, it's not doing my general well-being any good at all.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #882 on: February 20, 2021, 10:17:11 pm »
Our xG today was 1.54 what is interesting is that City won 3-1 against Everton midweek with an xG of 1.23. Our issue is that it we make far too many basic errors at the back.

I’m sure there are issues at the back as well but if you’re consistently underperforming your XG you know what your problem is.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #883 on: February 20, 2021, 10:17:38 pm »
Well what’s wrong with the statement? 1 league goal this calendar year at home.

A calendar year is 12 months

I think he must mean this year
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #884 on: February 20, 2021, 10:18:02 pm »
I think it’s time we played Kabak and Phillips or Davies and sat back with 8 players in our area with just Mane and Salah up. Let teams come to us and have all the ball. Then when we get it back, play the quick ball up to Mane or Salah who will be hopefully 1 on 1. Play these teams at their own game as our own sure ain’t working anymore.

Good call - something needs to change.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #885 on: February 20, 2021, 10:18:07 pm »
I think it’s time we played Kabak and Phillips or Davies and sat back with 8 players in our area with just Mane and Salah up. Let teams come to us and have all the ball. Then when we get it back, play the quick ball up to Mane or Salah who will be hopefully 1 on 1. Play these teams at their own game as our own sure ain’t working anymore.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #886 on: February 20, 2021, 10:18:27 pm »
Eh ?

We beat spurs 2-1 in December alone 😂

You can’t believe that’s a true statement

Do you know what a calendar year is?

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #887 on: February 20, 2021, 10:18:49 pm »
Do you know what a calendar year is?

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #888 on: February 20, 2021, 10:19:14 pm »
Some of Trents balls tonight end in goals usually

As do a couple of robbos. It’s pretty mad we didn’t score then, we were in so many times.

The explanation for it is beyond me. Klopp saying they need to be calmer in the box, can see that

I have no idea where people are getting this ‘totally shit’ performance from to be honest. We dominated the game but had that decision making problem
It's 'cos we lost to the bitters - completely emotional reaction - once people calm down they'll realise that

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #889 on: February 20, 2021, 10:19:17 pm »
A calendar year is 12 months

I think he must mean this year

A calendar year is the period of time between January 1st and December 31st. So he/she wasn't wrong.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #890 on: February 20, 2021, 10:19:55 pm »
Yes do you

Ok mate.

Well what’s wrong with the statement? 1 league goal this calendar year at home.

glad to see it's not just me

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #891 on: February 20, 2021, 10:20:01 pm »
I think it’s time we played Kabak and Phillips or Davies and sat back with 8 players in our area with just Mane and Salah up. Let teams come to us and have all the ball. Then when we get it back, play the quick ball up to Mane or Salah who will be hopefully 1 on 1. Play these teams at their own game as our own sure ain’t working anymore.

I know they are getting torn to shreds here, but I actually thought Kabak and Philips looked ok enough to allow us to move Fab or Hendo back into midfield. Once they're fit again... we desperately need to do something about the midfield, it's not working, and I have no faith that starting the two players usually on the bench (Ox and Shaqiri) would help.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #892 on: February 20, 2021, 10:20:20 pm »
That was never a penalty. Not even peripheral. The c*nt of a ref just wanted to give the shite a pen. Simples.

The standard of referring is absolutely incredible. The most watched league in the world with refs that literally affect the outcome of half the games each weekend. It's rarely about the football anymore.

It's time they faced the media. In what world could he look at ONE replay of the monitor and be totally convinced.

It would help if they were mic'd up like the rugby too, at least when they are in conversation with the VAR. For instance was he told 'take a second look, are you sure?' or was he told 'take a look, we think DCL has kicked the back of TAA's head and fallen over...' Did he use it as confirmation bias of his own decision? Or look at it from VAR's point of view?

If we have to accept the fucking shower of shit that is VAR ruining football, surely we should be offered all the insight.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #893 on: February 20, 2021, 10:22:09 pm »
That was never a penalty. Not even peripheral. The c*nt of a ref just wanted to give the shite a pen. Simples.

I said in the thread before the game that the second an Everton player goes down in the box he would give a pen.

It doesn't help us defensively knowing if we touch an opponent it's a pen. Everton could get away with tugging at our forwards
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #894 on: February 20, 2021, 10:22:37 pm »
I know they are getting torn to shreds here, but I actually thought Kabak and Philips looked ok enough to allow us to move Fab or Hendo back into midfield. Once they're fit again... we desperately need to do something about the midfield, it's not working, and I have no faith that starting the two players usually on the bench (Ox and Shaqiri) would help.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #895 on: February 20, 2021, 10:22:43 pm »
https://twitter.com/Watch_LFC/status/1363223739844943872?s=08

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #896 on: February 20, 2021, 10:22:50 pm »
Some of Trents balls tonight end in goals usually

As do a couple of robbos. It’s pretty mad we didn’t score then, we were in so many times.

The explanation for it is beyond me. Klopp saying they need to be calmer in the box, can see that

I have no idea where people are getting this ‘totally shit’ performance from to be honest. We dominated the game but had that decision making problem

Because ball possession ≠ dominance. What situations do you refer to when you say some of TAA or Robbos balls end in goals usually? Can't really see that. Imo there was one Salah chance, that's maybe a 90% chance at best, and the shot from Hendo, that most goalies have to get at this level. Especially considering the fact that Pickford is not the tallest goalie. It's not mad if you don't score from the chances we've had in this game as none of them have been that clear.

The "totally shit" derives from the fact, that we've seen the very game or very similar at least for months. We not only have to be calmer in the box, we also have to get into the box more often. Of course it's not totally shit per se but what's worrying is that we don't create more 100% chances. "Being calmer in the box" equals "being more lucky" for me. We have to actually improve our game and create more chances.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #897 on: February 20, 2021, 10:23:44 pm »
A calendar year is the period of time between January 1st and December 31st. So he/she wasn't wrong.

It’s a 12 month period of time on any given calendar

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #898 on: February 20, 2021, 10:24:00 pm »
The standard of referring is absolutely incredible. The most watched league in the world with refs that literally affect the outcome of half the games each weekend. It's rarely about the football anymore.

It's time they faced the media. In what world could he look at ONE replay of the monitor and be totally convinced.

It would help if they were mic'd up like the rugby too, at least when they are in conversation with the VAR. For instance was he told 'take a second look, are you sure?' or was he told 'take a look, we think DCL has kicked the back of TAA's head and fallen over...' Did he use it as confirmation bias of his own decision? Or look at it from VAR's point of view?

If we have to accept the fucking shower of shit that is VAR ruining football, surely we should be offered all the insight.

There is zero accountability. I make decisions like that in my line of work and I'd be down the road.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #899 on: February 20, 2021, 10:25:30 pm »
I know they are getting torn to shreds here, but I actually thought Kabak and Philips looked ok enough to allow us to move Fab or Hendo back into midfield. Once they're fit again... we desperately need to do something about the midfield, it's not working, and I have no faith that starting the two players usually on the bench (Ox and Shaqiri) would help.

If we had the option to play Fabinho or Henderson... then I'd agree. This is a crazy situation but I think we have the ball so much as it is. If we could have Henderson or Fabinho back in midfield maybe we could get more pieces in the rigjt places and build from there.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #901 on: February 20, 2021, 10:27:09 pm »
Because ball possession ≠ dominance. What situations do you refer to when you say some of TAA or Robbos balls end in goals usually? Can't really see that. Imo there was one Salah chance, that's maybe a 90% chance at best, and the shot from Hendo, that most goalies have to get at this level. Especially considering the fact that Pickford is not the tallest goalie. It's not mad if you don't score from the chances we've had in this game as none of them have been that clear.

The "totally shit" derives from the fact, that we've seen the very game or very similar at least for months. We not only have to be calmer in the box, we also have to get into the box more often. Of course it's not totally shit per se but what's worrying is that we don't create more 100% chances. "Being calmer in the box" equals "being more lucky" for me. We have to actually improve our game and create more chances.

Versus Everton this week Liverpool xG 1.54, City x G1.23.

Look at the shooting chances that Bobby had today compared to Silva, Mahrez and Foden.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #902 on: February 20, 2021, 10:27:47 pm »
Because ball possession ≠ dominance. What situations do you refer to when you say some of TAA or Robbos balls end in goals usually? Can't really see that. Imo there was one Salah chance, that's maybe a 90% chance at best, and the shot from Hendo, that most goalies have to get at this level. Especially considering the fact that Pickford is not the tallest goalie. It's not mad if you don't score from the chances we've had in this game as none of them have been that clear.

The "totally shit" derives from the fact, that we've seen the very game or very similar at least for months. We not only have to be calmer in the box, we also have to get into the box more often. Of course it's not totally shit per se but what's worrying is that we don't create more 100% chances. "Being calmer in the box" equals "being more lucky" for me. We have to actually improve our game and create more chances.

As in the ball in is usually good enough but we’re ha ing to hit it in to 15 legs not on the counter like last season

The Balls were good

We were good enough to score 3/4 of those but as Klopp said the calmness of last year wasn’t there

But then again Klopp could be wrong and you could be right I guess
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #903 on: February 20, 2021, 10:27:50 pm »
It’s a 12 month period of time on any given calendar

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noun [ C ]

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a period of 365 or 366 days, starting on January 1 and ending on December 31

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #904 on: February 20, 2021, 10:27:57 pm »
Deleted my last post. Sorry for venting, just sick of it all.
Gonna take some time out from the footy, it's not doing my general well-being any good at all.
to be honest, after the first game we lost due to being screwed by the officials, I started 'switching off' - I refused to let it affect my general mood and actively practised not reacting negatively - it was becoming too much and was unhealthy.
Covid, no fans, the incessant media narratives, social media - all just too much.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #905 on: February 20, 2021, 10:28:02 pm »
There is zero accountability. I make decisions like that in my line of work and I'd be down the road.

Of course, if it wasn’t for dodgy refs we would be top of the league by 20 points! We need to stop this narrative immediately.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #906 on: February 20, 2021, 10:29:03 pm »
Tonight’s one is the worst I’ve seen in years

Esp when you add into the fact he’s got the benefit of looking at a monitor

Except he didn't really - it ws a token glance .

His mind was made up beforehand and that was that !

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #907 on: February 20, 2021, 10:29:04 pm »
Never nice to lose, especially to that lot but I'm not as annoyed as I should be because this season is a farce and without fans it's not reflective of us a club at all. Just take it for what it is. It would be funny if we no 7 and still considered it a bad season by the high standards we've set. Most clubs would sell their soul to be in our position.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #908 on: February 20, 2021, 10:29:57 pm »
It’s a 12 month period of time on any given calendar

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https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/calendar-year

Try that instead.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #909 on: February 20, 2021, 10:31:31 pm »
Our xG today was 1.54 what is interesting is that City won 3-1 against Everton midweek with an xG of 1.23. Our issue is that it we make far too many basic errors at the back.

and our other issue is we can’t score. So yeah, all in all, a recipe for not winning.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #910 on: February 20, 2021, 10:32:29 pm »
Well, we they should have backed him in the summer. Sickening to think we'll have regrets under Jurgen, him not being backed properly by the owners is certainly one. We are asking him to try and win trophies with one arm tied behind his back and looks like we will pay a heavy price for that this season.

It's for this reason alone that I strongly believe Klopp is safe as houses when it comes to the security of his position, regardless of anything said in the worst areas of the media or online. Yeah, the pandemic has fucked the finances in the game, but for almost his entire tenure he's balanced the books while winning the biggest trophies in the game. I'm not a fan of the chequebook managers (cough... Pep.... cough...) but there comes the time when the owners need to invest without selling, and while Edwards has been something of a genius I also believe he could do even more if given a bit more capital to work with. Our fully fit first team is frankly astonishing, and would have wiped the floor with that shower tonight: Ali-TAA-Gomez-VVD-Robbo-Thiago-Henderson-Fabinho-Mane-Salah-Firmino. Put them on a pitch and watch the opponents - any opponents - shit themselves.

But it's outside of that core that we're simply not strong enough. Jota, yes, he's been the best buy since VVD. Jones is a reminder of the 90's when we had Macca, Fowler, Gerrard, Owen coming through. Shaq is interesting in that we all thought he would barely feature, but he's proved useful and does at least put a shift in and raise energy levels. Our other squad players however are either being asked to perform way above their expected level (Williams, Phillips, Kelleher), being overused (Milner), being underused (Tsimikas, still can't explain that one), are massively inconsistent with injuries (Keita, Ox, Matip), or have a foot out of the door already (Origi, Wijnaldum). So it's hardly surprising that we're having the continuing breakdowns with the players Klopp clearly trusts; they're all fucking knackered. Losing Fabinho and Henderson, both out of position and weakening our midfield options, is just the cherry on the shit pie of this season. The bad luck is one thing, but the squad not being strong enough is entirely another in my opinion. A rebuild of the rest of the squad is due.

I can only hope that this season will be yet another evolutionary lesson for the ownership of FSG and the need to not only get to the top but to stay there. But given the last minute dash to the depths of the Bundesliga and the Championship for defensive cover, I'll retain a degree of skepticism as to how we'll fund it. The rumours of something interesting happening in the summer may raise a little bit of excitement, but will it be at a cost elsewhere on the pitch? Only time will tell, but for now the focus must be on supporting. The lack of the twelfth man in the ground is probably the biggest issue of all, and our lads need it more than ever now.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #911 on: February 20, 2021, 10:32:31 pm »
Of course, if it wasn’t for dodgy refs we would be top of the league by 20 points! We need to stop this narrative immediately.

We are talking about referring in general, not a conspiracy against us. And nobody has once said we would be clear without inept refs, I think we all know we wouldn't.

Do you think it was a pen?

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #912 on: February 20, 2021, 10:33:23 pm »
Of course, if it wasn’t for dodgy refs we would be top of the league by 20 points! We need to stop this narrative immediately.

Why do we? We arent playing well. Yet we have been shafted time and again this season by terrible officiating. Both of these are fair statements and not mutually exclusive.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #913 on: February 20, 2021, 10:33:25 pm »
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/calendar-year

Try that instead.

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calendar year

noun [ C ]

US

 /ˈkæl.ən.dɚ ˌjɪr/

UK

/ˈkæl.ən.də ˌjɪər/

a period of 365 or 366 days, starting on January 1 and ending on December 31

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/calendar-year

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Both could be argued to be right.

Why you didn’t just say ‘this year’ is very odd
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #914 on: February 20, 2021, 10:34:22 pm »
quote author=Caligula? link=topic=347051.msg17633841#msg17633841 date=1613860070]
calendar year

noun [ C ]

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 /ˈkæl.ən.dɚ ˌjɪr/

UK

/ˈkæl.ən.də ˌjɪər/

a period of 365 or 366 days, starting on January 1 and ending on December 31

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/calendar-year



Both could be argued to be right.

Why you didn’t just say ‘this year’ is very odd

Better to be accurate, this year could have meant something else.  :wave

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #915 on: February 20, 2021, 10:34:41 pm »
Deleted my last post. Sorry for venting, just sick of it all.
Gonna take some time out from the footy, it's not doing my general well-being any good at all.

I was surprised when you came out with that, its not your usual way at all. It's also a good idea sometimes to take yourself out of the spotlight and concentrate on yourself. Take care.  :wave
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #916 on: February 20, 2021, 10:36:52 pm »
Except he didn't really - it ws a token glance .

His mind was made up beforehand and that was that !



They were retreating

I fancied us to Nick 1-1 to be honest

That pen was absolutely farcical
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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #917 on: February 20, 2021, 10:41:19 pm »
We are talking about referring in general, not a conspiracy against us. And nobody has once said we would be clear without inept refs, I think we all know we wouldn't.

Do you think it was a pen?

No. But that didn’t dictate the game.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #918 on: February 20, 2021, 10:43:58 pm »
No. But that didn’t dictate the game.

Not sure anybody has said it did.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 0 vs 2 Everton Richarlison ‘3 Sighurdson pen. 93’
« Reply #919 on: February 20, 2021, 10:45:51 pm »
We played most of today without any of our first choice center halves and arguably our first choice midfield too.

We have I hope bottomed out. Now we have 8 days for the likes of Fabinho, Milner, Keita and Jota to rehab their injuries. We have 8 days for Phillips, Kabak or Davies to learn to play together. As Henderson looks set for a spell on the sidelines, Fabinho must return to midfield, we function better with at least one of these two in the middle of the park.

The fightback must begin next week.
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