Topic: Loan Watch 2019/20

[Yorkykopite]

As is Harvey Elliott, who before Wilson scored his open goal and two free kicks had two more goals than him this season too.

So Harry Wilson has scored more than Harvey Eliot this season?

Wow, I'm surprised. Took me eye off the ball there. I've been following the hype too I guess.

I agree with you though. That hat-trick was basically three tap-ins.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

So Harry Wilson has scored more than Harvey Eliot this season?

Wow, I'm surprised. Took me eye off the ball there. I've been following the hype too I guess.

I agree with you though. That hat-trick was basically three tap-ins.

Their stats are incredibly similar.

https://www.transfermarkt.com.mt/harvey-elliott/profil/spieler/565822

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/harry-wilson/profil/spieler/279455

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Hopefully Wilson can be sold for a tidy sum in the summer. We need as much cash as possible to strengthen in key positions.

Not if he goes to Rangers & to be honest I don't trust FSG to free up any money that we bring in.

[Jookie]

Hopefully Wilson can be sold for a tidy sum in the summer. We need as much cash as possible to strengthen in key positions.

Harry Wilson is a good player. He’d be asset for any Championship club and probably be a decent starter/squad player for the bottom 6-8 in the PL.

Personally I don’t think he’s top 6-8 material for a PL team despite having some standout ability on the ball (e.g free kick taking).

Given the teams I’d expect to be after him and the likely depressed market I think a fee in the region of 6-8M is realistic. Can’t see it being over 10M personally.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Not if he goes to Rangers & to be honest I don't trust FSG to free up any money that we bring in.

I think they will release the money we bring in this summer. I still think they will be looking to sell the club, but they will probably want to sell from a position of power, with the team doing well ...

[CraigDS]

Not if he goes to Rangers & to be honest I don't trust FSG to free up any money that we bring in.

The club will spend what it makes, it always has.

[El Lobo]

I think they will release the money we bring in this summer. I still think they will be looking to sell the club, but they will probably want to sell from a position of power, with the team doing well ...

Would the Kazakhstani’s be interested in buying the club if Wilson was sold though?

[PeterTheRed ...]

Would the Kazakhstani’s be interested in buying the club if Wilson was sold though?

It must be very painful for you seeing Wilson doing well, after slating him for years ...

[Fordy]

It must be very painful for you seeing Wilson doing well, after slating him for years ...

It will be painful because once again is getting shown up.

[El Lobo]

It must be very painful for you seeing Wilson doing well, after slating him for years ...

Probably more smug than anything Peter, since most of that ‘slating’ has been talking about his level being in the Championship (or laughing at Fordy saying he’ll be in the squad next season and invariably going out on loan again).

[PeterTheRed ...]

Jurgen Klopp on Minamino:

"He’s done really well at Southampton and this is no surprise. When we allowed him to go in January it was a tough call to make because he is an important player for us and will be again in the future. But it made sense for him and us."

[MD1990]

Jurgen Klopp on Minamino:

"He’s done really well at Southampton and this is no surprise. When we allowed him to go in January it was a tough call to make because he is an important player for us and will be again in the future. But it made sense for him and us."

I still see him being sold.

He hasnt really done all that well either.

[PeterTheRed ...]

I still see him being sold.

He hasnt really done all that well either.

I can also see him being sold, but only if we are bringing Almiron in. That would make sense ...

[disgraced cake]

He's barely played, don't see how it's been a success. Not just in hindsight but think it would have been better just keeping him. Might not have changed anything but we were never going to be better by getting rid of one attacking player and not bringing another in, not that that was the area we did need to buy in in January.

Hopefully a few offers are tabled in the summer, even if we don't plan to sell. I think for all parties it's probably best he's moved on. Need a good offer though. You only have to look at some of the eye watering prices that prem teams are paying for squad players nowadays. Minamino can be a success in this league but he needs the regular football.

[Welshred]

We're playing Southampton so I'm assuming that's why the question was asked. You weren't expecting Klopp to say he's been as shit there as he has been for us were you?!

[Welshred]

https://twitter.com/theredmentv/status/1391021002797289474?s=24

[cdav]

Think if Origi and Shaq leave as expected and we bring in
one new forward Elliott will get a decent number of appearances as 6th choice forward next season if we are in Europe, especially before xmas.

I think its been a really good loan for him to get a lot of minutes at a good level

[disgraced cake]

We're playing Southampton so I'm assuming that's why the question was asked. You weren't expecting Klopp to say he's been as shit there as he has been for us were you?!

No, of course not, I should have noted that. That said I think everyone in the position to look at it as such, IE the fans, can say as so. Shame as it started well for him with a couple of nice goals.

[disgraced cake]

A nod also to Sepp VDB who by the sound of many Preston fans has done very well for them. 16 games, playing 90 minutes in all but two, and part of a defence that has ended the season really well, never really conceding more than the odd goal. Probably on his way back to Preston, but like I said with Harvey Elliott, I think it would be worth keeping him round for the Europa League games and then maybe assessing if he needs another loan in January.

[PeterTheRed ...]

A nod also to Sepp VDB who by the sound of many Preston fans has done very well for them. 16 games, playing 90 minutes in all but two, and part of a defence that has ended the season really well, never really conceding more than the odd goal. Probably on his way back to Preston, but like I said with Harvey Elliott, I think it would be worth keeping him round for the Europa League games and then maybe assessing if he needs another loan in January.

I actually watched a couple of Preston games to see how Van den Berg is doing, and I was surprised how well he did for them at right fullback. Looking at his stats, it seems that he has played for them mostly as a right fullback. That could be interesting ...

[Redsnappa]

Taiwo Awoniyi has finally been granted a UK Work Permit.

This week Awoniyi and his family were finally granted UK work permits, following a lengthy application process.

That will enable the 23-year-old to continue his career in England, should the opportunity arise. Liverpool plan to involve him in the first part of their pre-season schedule, enabling him to finally train with Jurgen Klopp’s senior group and perhaps feature in some friendly fixtures while a host of first-team players are away on international duty at the European Championship and Copa America.

After that, a transfer or loan move looks most likely. Goal has learned that the Reds have already held initial discussions with three English clubs - Fulham, West Brom and Stoke - while Stuttgart, Wolfsburg and Union Berlin have all enquired from Germany.

Liverpool have previously rejected a £5 million ($7m) approach from Belgian giants Anderlecht, who remain interested, and it is understood that the Reds’ valuation for Awoniyi stands at around £8m ($11m), given his encouraging performances in the Bundesliga this season.

https://twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1394573000893157378

[Welshred]

Will be very interesting to see how he gets on in England. He was very highly rated at some point.

[Redsnappa]

Will be very interesting to see how he gets on in England. He was very highly rated at some point.

Yeah, big chance for him to impress, especially if Origi moves on.

[B0151?]

I actually watched a couple of Preston games to see how Van den Berg is doing, and I was surprised how well he did for them at right fullback. Looking at his stats, it seems that he has played for them mostly as a right fullback. That could be interesting ...

Wasn't he even playing as a right wing back in the last few games?

[RyanBabel19]

Taiwo Awoniyi has finally been granted a UK Work Permit.

This week Awoniyi and his family were finally granted UK work permits, following a lengthy application process.

That will enable the 23-year-old to continue his career in England, should the opportunity arise. Liverpool plan to involve him in the first part of their pre-season schedule, enabling him to finally train with Jurgen Klopp’s senior group and perhaps feature in some friendly fixtures while a host of first-team players are away on international duty at the European Championship and Copa America.

After that, a transfer or loan move looks most likely. Goal has learned that the Reds have already held initial discussions with three English clubs - Fulham, West Brom and Stoke - while Stuttgart, Wolfsburg and Union Berlin have all enquired from Germany.

Liverpool have previously rejected a £5 million ($7m) approach from Belgian giants Anderlecht, who remain interested, and it is understood that the Reds’ valuation for Awoniyi stands at around £8m ($11m), given his encouraging performances in the Bundesliga this season.

https://twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1394573000893157378

Shocked to see him get a work permit but to be fair I dont know loadssss about the process, just that our players never seem to get them granted *cough* Allan *cough*

Be good to see a bit of him in pre season, from what i've read he's impressed in Germany

[Dim Glas]

It seems about right that the clubs linked with Taiwo Awoniyi are Championship clubs. He struggled at Mainz, but did ok for FC Union, but then got injured (he is back fit now though). If Liverpool are holding out for over 5 mill, he won’t be going back there, the most they’ve ever spent on a player is €2m.   

[PeterTheRed ...]

Wasn't he even playing as a right wing back in the last few games?

More like a classic right fullback in the games I watched. I was pleasantly surprised by his mobility and his crossing. Hopefully he gets another good loan next season. He definitely has the potential to be a LFC player ...

[disgraced cake]

Shame for Awoniyi that the work permit never happened earlier but if we could get 8 million quid for him then that'd be some nice business.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Shame for Awoniyi that the work permit never happened earlier but if we could get 8 million quid for him then that'd be some nice business.

The work permit for Awoniyi is great news. The market for him has just increased ...

[PeterTheRed ...]

This is nice to see ...

[jackh]

A nod also to Sepp VDB who by the sound of many Preston fans has done very well for them. 16 games, playing 90 minutes in all but two, and part of a defence that has ended the season really well, never really conceding more than the odd goal. Probably on his way back to Preston, but like I said with Harvey Elliott, I think it would be worth keeping him round for the Europa League games and then maybe assessing if he needs another loan in January.

Dropped by specifically to ask about Van Den Berg, but this post looks like it answers my question for now!

I see he was subbed on during Preston's opening day defeat to Hull, but started tonight's 3-0 cup win over Mansfield as a right wing-back.

[rocco]

Anymore out on loan to keep a watch on

Sepp van den Berg – Preston
Paul Glatzel – Tranmere
Adam Lewis – Livingston
Anderson Arroyo – Mirandes
Jakub Ojrzynski – Caernarfon Town
Vitezslav Jaros – St Patrick’s Athletic (until end of November)
Leighton Clarkson—-Blackburn
Ben Davies ————Sheffield United

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A crowd of 7,728 at Prenton Park watched on as Glatzel made his bow, where he was lively and part of early interplay in the final third that saw Tranmere start on the front foot.

The 20-year-old would not get a shot on target but was credited with two key passes to his name, the second-most in his team, in what was a valuable first step at his new club.

He would play 64 minutes of the clash and received a raucous round of applause as he made his way to the touchline.

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A professional debut also came the way of Jakub Ojrzynski, with the young goalkeeper handed the No. 1 role for Caernarfon Town’s Cymru Premier League Cup second-round matchup against Ruthin.

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 Sepp van den Berg did not get to enjoy an opening day victory as Preston succumbed to a 4-1 defeat at the hands of Hull despite taking an early lead.
Came on at 1-1 .More luck Wednesday night as he started in a 3-0 cup win over Mansfield as a right wing-back.

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Elsewhere, Adam Lewis was not named in Livingston’s matchday squad in their defeat to Aberdeen with a minor fitness issue and Vitezslav Jaros helped St Patrick’s Atheltic notch their 13th league win to keep within striking distance at the top of the table.

[rocco]

Leighton Clarkson has finalised a loan move to Championship side Blackburn Rovers.


Ben Davies has joined Sheffield United on loan for the 2021-22 season , seems a £500k loan fee and £500k if their promoted .

[Jayo10]

Jaros has been terrific for St Pat's Athletic in Ireland, really really great

[Chris~]

Jaros has been terrific for St Pat's Athletic in Ireland, really really great

This is good to hear. Think out of the many youth keepers we've recruited over the last few years I was impressed by him the most, which I understand doenst mean a huge amount    Don't think he's going to end up doing much here but hopefully he's done enough to get a better loan next time

[RyanBabel19]

Good individual start from Clarkson yesterday. He played well for them in a 2-1 loss to West Brom. Set up Blackburns goal playing a nice pass forward for Brereton from the left hand side, onrushing keeper seemed to misjudge the pass ball through to Brereton who finished to make it 2-1

[aka_da_saus]

Good individual start from Clarkson yesterday. He played well for them in a 2-1 loss to West Brom. Set up Blackburns goal playing a nice pass forward for Brereton from the left hand side, onrushing keeper seemed to misjudge the pass ball through to Brereton who finished to make it 2-1

i watched the first half and while everytime he touched ball he did something positive with it and he was an inch away from a ridiculous assist with that pass you could see clearly he not a no 10 . i hope they play him deeper the next day !

[Fromola]

i watched the first half and while everytime he touched ball he did something positive with it and he was an inch away from a ridiculous assist with that pass you could see clearly he not a no 10 . i hope they play him deeper the next day !

Klopp sees him as a 6, but given his frame a Championship manager less likely to put him as the deepest midfielder in what's a physical league (although Rodgers did it with Leon Britton or Joe Allen).

[RedG13]

Klopp sees him as a 6, but given his frame a Championship manager less likely to put him as the deepest midfielder in what's a physical league (although Rodgers did it with Leon Britton or Joe Allen).

He probably more what Klopp looks for in an 8 with his size. Klopp has played Gini and Thaigo as the 6 at times(more injury reasons or it been to rest the 6 with less physically need in mf)  but his preference  has been somebody who is tall as they are normally good in the air see Bender, Henderson, Fabinho that much more what he looks for.
Unless Klopp said that what he sees him as I don't think he would be looking to play him as a 6 unless he has a late growth spurt.

[Asam]

Klopp sees him as a 6, but given his frame a Championship manager less likely to put him as the deepest midfielder in what's a physical league (although Rodgers did it with Leon Britton or Joe Allen).

He’s the same height as Mascherano, as long as the team has good aerial prowess overall and he’s got a decent leap on him I don’t see height as being an issue as long as he can handle himself (which being a local lad shouldn’t be a problem) he’s used to having proper challenges/tackles