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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12360 on: May 3, 2019, 11:21:42 am »
Update: Paul met with his ex to pick up more of his stuff. The police still as his phone, so I can't get in touch with him. He'll probably get it back in a weeks time or so. He keeps asking if he can come back but he has done a lot of damage to their relationship and her son was suffering from Paul's complete lack of understandig for his longing for his biological father. So he's not coming back. Not now or later.

I'll let you know more when I hear more.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12361 on: May 3, 2019, 11:40:34 pm »
Anyone out in Liverpool tonight - am out with my better half in Liverpool if anyone would like to join us?

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12362 on: May 4, 2019, 07:56:46 am »
Tom do you know if Paul is on Facefuck?
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12363 on: May 4, 2019, 07:27:28 pm »
Tom do you know if Paul is on Facefuck?

He is yes. Not very active though. I think his brother operates the company page.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12364 on: May 5, 2019, 06:04:48 pm »
Tom do you know if Paul is on Facefuck?

He is, Billy. I’m not sure he’s got access to it at the moment though.


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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12365 on: May 6, 2019, 12:44:04 pm »
He is, Billy. I’m not sure he’s got access to it at the moment though.


He's not tweeted in a while either.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12366 on: May 6, 2019, 01:00:46 pm »
He's not tweeted in a while either.

You're right, Tony.

Just spoke to a fella who has given Paul roof over his head for now. The fella himself is a recovering alcoholic who has his life back on track and he's "working on" Paul too. On top of the alcohol it seems drugs are involved too. This fella has told him he doesn't mind the bevvies but the lines have to stop. So that's one thing he's doing fine this fella. I know his name but I don't want to put it here.

So Paul is really up shit creek without a paddle right now. I'm just hoping he'll realise he needs help before he kills himself with the drink and the snort... :sad

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12367 on: May 7, 2019, 04:44:28 pm »
sad, sad , sad

its Carl all over again

I hope his guardian angel has the strength to help and I hope Paul listens

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12368 on: May 9, 2019, 08:38:10 am »
I spoke to Paul yesterday. He sounded ok as in not hungover or mumbling because he was high.

He's obviously hurting because his life has been turned upside down. His version of the things that have happened is obviously almost the complete opposite to his ex's version. However he does recognize that he's to blame for things falling apart between them. To an extend that is.

As with other alchies I've known throughout my life self-pity is a big part of his way of thinking. It's somebody else's fault almost all the time when something shitty happens to him. He's not taking responsibility for his own actions and his own life.

Billy, I've handed him your contact info and asked him to get in touch with you - so we'll have to wait and see if he does so.

Just wanted you guys to know he's alive and breathing.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12369 on: May 9, 2019, 10:30:49 pm »
Thanks for the update mate.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12370 on: May 9, 2019, 10:44:56 pm »
Wasnt paul mates with juan loco and smd?

i know theyve been out drinking together

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12371 on: May 9, 2019, 10:50:22 pm »
Billy, I've handed him your contact info and asked him to get in touch with you - so we'll have to wait and see if he does so.

Thanks Tom. Hopefully he takes the offer up. I'd be happy to sponsor him.

If he's reserved about it, tell him I've no intentions of recommending that he goes to AA meetings as of yet

Just let him know that I'm available if he wants to talk in private. A text exchange will do fine for now

My phone's on for him anytime, day or night. All he has to do is reach out





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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12372 on: May 10, 2019, 07:15:38 am »
Thanks Tom. Hopefully he takes the offer up. I'd be happy to sponsor him.

If he's reserved about it, tell him I've no intentions of recommending that he goes to AA meetings as of yet

Just let him know that I'm available if he wants to talk in private. A text exchange will do fine for now

My phone's on for him anytime, day or night. All he has to do is reach out







I will. :) He'll get his own phone back beginning of next week. Don't expect anything from him before. He's using his mate's phone at the moment.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12373 on: May 10, 2019, 07:16:57 am »
Wasnt paul mates with juan loco and smd?

i know theyve been out drinking together

Now you mention it...

I'm not sure they're still in touch. He's been with his now ex for nearly 7 years and except for the past 3 months he's been a family man, so not many of his old drinking buddies around anymore.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12374 on: May 17, 2019, 04:26:22 pm »
Psychedelics' Role in Beating Alcoholism Illustrated in LSD, Psilocybin Study

In the ‘50s through the ‘70s, psychedelic drugs were studied for their potential to help people stop problematic drinking. At the time, the research primarily focused on the effects of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), which seemed to help curb alcohol addiction, albeit not consistently. Now, after the 50-year research hiatus necessitated by the drug’s illegal status, scientists are once again finding psychedelics like LSD as well as psilocybin to be useful tools in fighting addiction, as research published Tuesday in The Journal of Pharmacology illustrates.

Matthew Johnson, Ph.D., an associate professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, tells Inverse that this work is a “thread that was left dangling” from that earlier era of research. In the paper, Johnson and colleagues present evidence that psychedelics can lead to a reduction — and sometimes complete cessation — of problematic alcohol use.

To gather their data, the team recruit participants through social media and websites devoted to drug discussion and research, including the Erowid Center and the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). Through anonymous online surveys, they collected data on 343 participants who were predominantly white, male, and American, and, importantly, had reported at least seven years of problematic drinking before they had a psychedelic experience.

Of the group, 72 percent met the criteria for alcohol use disorder, and 75 percent reported they had either used LSD or psilocybin, the psychoactive molecule in “magic” mushrooms. Out of those who took the drugs, 62 percent were looking for a spiritual experience or wanted to explore their psychological state.

Just ten percent of this group took the drugs with the hope they could help them reduce their reliance on alcohol. But as it turns out, the majority of the participants still experienced a change in their drinking habits after taking the drugs.

The survey results showed a dramatic change in the number of alcoholic drinks people consumed before taking a “moderate or high dose” of either LSD or psilocybin and the number of drinks they were consuming a year later. After their drug experience, 83 percent of the participants no longer met the criteria for having alcohol use disorder. In turn, 28 percent of the participants reported that their psychedelic experience was the reason they decided to change their lifestyle.


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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12375 on: May 19, 2019, 04:47:53 pm »
Well.....

Latest update on Paul is not very good.

The fella Paul is staying with called me last night to let me know what is going on. Paul hasn't had his phone back from the police yet. I don't know why it's taking so long. Paul has borrowed £ 1.500,- from this fella and by the looks of it he's not getting it back anytime soon. The fella's estimate was that Paul is on 80-100 units this week alone and he's guessing that Paul is spending in the neighborhood of £ 90,- a day on drink and coke.

I've told the fella to give Paul an ultimatum to have his money back by Tuesday night or he's out. Not that I think Paul will repay any of the money but the fella needs to take care of his life. I've texted Paul's brother and the reply was simply he didn't want anything to do with Paul nor did their parents. Apparently Paul is the reason their parents have lost their home and life savings years back.

So it looks like the prediction you made, Billy, is sadly coming closer and closer. :sad

I must admit I've more or less given up on him. I can't do anything from where I am and the advice he's getting he's not listening to so what can you do?

Anyways - just wanted you to know.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12376 on: May 19, 2019, 06:38:00 pm »
Sadly apparently inevitable. Only Paul can save Paul.........

My dad fell off the wagon again, hard. He's been a fuckin mess in the last two months apparently. And yes, he hid it from me when I was over in April but I found the bottles. I have given him every opportunity to open up to me but he's not only denying his state to others, he's totally ignoring it even exists when it comes to talking to me.

The only thing left is for me to drop the bomb on him and tell him I know absolutely everything from the last few months - the blackouts, the head wound from falling in the kitchen, the debts, the police being called, the numerous trips to A&E and now the three and half grand needed to put him through another week's rehab.......

........which is unlikely to work - because the reasons and rationales he is using to justify his behaviour do not vanish in a week - they are still with him.

I'm fuckin desperate here. No idea what else to do. I want to walk away - but I don't - but I also am tired of trying to listen to a brick wall that refuses to acknowledge its own existence......

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12377 on: May 19, 2019, 07:50:57 pm »
It's the EXACT same patterns I see with Paul, Jim.

I've been trying to talk reason and dropping harsh facts on him. Like he's not going to see his own daughter anymore if he doesn't stop. His reply to that is, that it's his ex's fault. She has driven him to drink etc. Blaming others for his own shortcomings is the agenda and I don't want to be part of that anymore.

I hope you somehow find the key to your dad's mind and conscience. You know where I am if you need me. ;)

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12378 on: May 20, 2019, 12:36:10 pm »
It's the EXACT same patterns I see with Paul, Jim.

I've been trying to talk reason and dropping harsh facts on him. Like he's not going to see his own daughter anymore if he doesn't stop. His reply to that is, that it's his ex's fault. She has driven him to drink etc. Blaming others for his own shortcomings is the agenda and I don't want to be part of that anymore.

I hope you somehow find the key to your dad's mind and conscience. You know where I am if you need me. ;)

Thank for the update. It is just desperately sad. I shared a few PMs with Paul back inn the day. Seems a million years and a million miles ago now. Just very very sad.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12379 on: May 20, 2019, 05:22:25 pm »
I'm sad to hear about your Dad Jim, and Tom I'm sorry to hear about Paul. I fully understand the frustration and despair that can arise when attempting to talk sense into an alcoholic. So I take my hat off to both of you for the patience and concern that you've both shown so far

I think the main thing to bear in mind here is that real alcoholics do NOT have the ability to stop drinking by their own accord. No matter how many ultimatums you give them, no matter how much you threaten them, no matter how often you highlight the potential consequences of their actions, you'll never manage to "talk them around".

The other thing to bear in mind is that alcoholics aren't stupid. On the surface it may appear like you're talking to a brick wall, but deep down all alcoholics know that they're slowly killing themselves. They know they're heading for self destruction. But again, they can't put a stop to it because they're simply unable to.

Problem drinkers can be scared into quitting if their marriages or livelihoods become threatened, but alcoholics are different. They're beyond human aid. They cannot do it by themselves. Take Carl for example. We all spent years trying to talk him around, but it never stopped his drinking. You all saw me warn him a gazillion times that it was going to kill him, but that didn't stop him. The doctors warned him, and that didn't stop him

Even the day the specialist told him he was on the verge of liver failure and facing death, what did Carl do? He went and got twatted drunk. Why? Because regardless of the catastrophe facing him, Carl was simply unable to stop drinking of his own accord. Like all alcoholics, Carl needed a power greater than himself to help him with his problem but he shut the idea down. That's why he's dead

And so for Jim, all I can offer you at the moment is to try and remember that your Dad isn't a bad person. He's not being deceitful and dishonest because he wants to. He's not drinking because he has a death wish. All of that is simply the manifestation of his condition. A condition that (until correctly treated) he has absolutely no control over. And it's the very same with Paul

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12380 on: May 21, 2019, 07:37:32 am »
SNIP

What you describe is scarily right, Billy. And yet it's still so sad to watch someone you care for slowly disintegrate without you being able to do fuck all.  :sad

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12381 on: May 30, 2019, 07:11:18 am »
So...

Latest "Paul news" is in.

He gave word for the first time in 2 weeks time last night. He sent me 2 pics, one of a very bloody hand and one of a bed all soaked in blood. Apparently he's fallen and knocked a big hole in his head the night before. Only thing is he can't remember. "What do I do, Tom?" he asked me. I told him to fucking call an ambulance and get his arse to the hospital. So he did.

Last text last night was that he'd had a brain scan but not what the results were.

I've told him in no uncertain terms that I'm fed up and done with being the one he turns to when he's at his lowest, crying etc. and then just carry on the next day after hours of either texting or talking on the phone. He needs to man up and take responsibility of his own life. He's 40 years old ffs!

Anyways - just wanted to let you know and vent a bit.

Rant over - have a good one all! :)

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12382 on: May 30, 2019, 05:51:57 pm »
May not be quite in the spirit of the thread but he always struck me as a pure fkn idiot to be honest

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12383 on: May 30, 2019, 07:39:23 pm »
There's only 3 possible outcomes here

Outcome 1 is he decides to get himself to AA and starts working the programme

Outcome 2 is someone from AA (as in a recovered alcoholic) pays him a visit and wins his trust over

Outcome 3 is he keeps drinking and kills himself with 5 years

That's pretty much it I'm afraid
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12384 on: May 30, 2019, 07:44:23 pm »
Tom, PM me his number. I'll reach out to him
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12385 on: May 30, 2019, 07:54:53 pm »
Tom, PM me his number. I'll reach out to him

Done. Thanks so much, Billy. You're a star!! :wave

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12386 on: June 3, 2019, 07:42:07 pm »
Done. Thanks so much, Billy. You're a star!! :wave

Just seen on Facebook he shared a post from the business. Pretty quick turnaround from your last update. Hopefully he pulls himself together
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12387 on: June 3, 2019, 08:14:23 pm »
I just took a look at the Leaflet Drop page on Facebook -
*edit - I think it was an older one*

Hope it all goes well for him :thumbup
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12388 on: June 3, 2019, 09:01:21 pm »
Just texting with him now. He's still sober/clean and has put on some weight already. Much more positive vibe in his texts now. He's working on getting his business back up again. :thumbup

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12389 on: June 3, 2019, 09:13:51 pm »
Just texting with him now. He's still sober/clean and has put on some weight already. Much more positive vibe in his texts now. He's working on getting his business back up again. :thumbup
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12390 on: June 28, 2019, 06:10:20 am »
So...

Quick update on Paul.

He claims he's on the rigt track again and to be honest he sounds better when I've talked to him.

Last Tuesday he called me crying and asked if I could lend him £100,- because he owed some bad people money. He didn't have no one else to so I gave in. On the condition that if he didn't return the money on Monday he shouldn't even bother getting in touch again.

It's Friday morning and I haven't seen any money yet, so I guess our "friendship" wasn't worth £100,- to him.

Sad but true.

I'm fine about it - after all it's his life not mine.

Have a great weekend all! :wave

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12391 on: June 28, 2019, 10:22:04 am »
Sad.  :-[ :'(

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12392 on: June 28, 2019, 10:47:14 am »
So...

Quick update on Paul.

He claims he's on the rigt track again and to be honest he sounds better when I've talked to him.

Last Tuesday he called me crying and asked if I could lend him £100,- because he owed some bad people money. He didn't have no one else to so I gave in. On the condition that if he didn't return the money on Monday he shouldn't even bother getting in touch again.

It's Friday morning and I haven't seen any money yet, so I guess our "friendship" wasn't worth £100,- to him.

Sad but true.

I'm fine about it - after all it's his life not mine.

Have a great weekend all! :wave

It's sad to read stuff like this with Paul because i used to talk to him quite a bit back in the day when he was with his missus and his Leaflet business had just started taking off and he was a very happy bloke, liked a drink but he was very much okay in himself.

A slippery slippery slope, poor lad.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12393 on: June 29, 2019, 11:35:40 pm »
So...

Quick update on Paul.

He claims he's on the rigt track again and to be honest he sounds better when I've talked to him.

Last Tuesday he called me crying and asked if I could lend him £100,- because he owed some bad people money. He didn't have no one else to so I gave in. On the condition that if he didn't return the money on Monday he shouldn't even bother getting in touch again.

It's Friday morning and I haven't seen any money yet, so I guess our "friendship" wasn't worth £100,- to him.

Sad but true.

I'm fine about it - after all it's his life not mine.

Have a great weekend all! :wave

He messaged me on 17th out of the blue. Haven't heard directly from him in best part of 3 years. Asked me to call him asap as it was an emergency. Chatted for about 10 mins about how hes getting there, a few bits about how there is still potential for him and the missus to get sorted out, then as I expected, "Any chance you could paypal me over some money?" The story went that she has all his bank cards and passport so cant get any cash from anywhere. Obviously I never sent him anything, but was only after the call i thought how the fuck paypal is going to help if he has no access to his bank account  ::)
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12394 on: July 4, 2019, 11:50:27 pm »
Not been on here much for a few years, and just seen this about Paul.. used to talk to him regularly during the days of RAWK chat, and to be honest, he's one of the main people that influenced me into actually pushing to open my own business. It hasn't happened yet, it's taken me years but I'm about a month away. All from him once telling me "work for yourself and you'll enjoy life a whole lot more" when I spoke to him about some crap I was dealing with.

Good man. Sad to see that in the few years since he had a positive influence on me, his own life has gone downhill. I can't quite believe how much, he lived for his daughter. Would talk about nothing else half the time.

If anyone speaks to him, tell him I'm thinking of him. He won't remember me, it was years ago, but maybe knowing that he had a positive impact on someone he called once might just help him remember the real him.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12395 on: July 8, 2019, 12:25:44 pm »
Returned to NA 2 days ago. Had 4 years clean time, then went back out into the madness for 5 years. Needless to say its not ended well, marriage breakdown, mental health issues, the lot. Lived the last 5 years in complete and utter denial and feel iv hit a rock bottom this time.

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12396 on: July 8, 2019, 01:39:39 pm »
Returned to NA 2 days ago. Had 4 years clean time, then went back out into the madness for 5 years. Needless to say its not ended well, marriage breakdown, mental health issues, the lot. Lived the last 5 years in complete and utter denial and feel iv hit a rock bottom this time.

Good luck man. Hope you get your life back on track.
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12397 on: July 8, 2019, 05:06:08 pm »
Returned to NA 2 days ago. Had 4 years clean time, then went back out into the madness for 5 years. Needless to say its not ended well, marriage breakdown, mental health issues, the lot. Lived the last 5 years in complete and utter denial and feel iv hit a rock bottom this time.

Well done. Good for you mate

My only piece of advice is to make sure you work the 12 steps

Don't just read them and recite them and don't just look at them as concepts. That wont get you clean

You have to actually WORK the steps. Do ALL of the actions that they tell you to do and you will get well

It's the same in AA. Sitting in meetings listening to war stories isn't what gets people sober.

People who get and stay sober are the ones who WORK the steps. I would encourage you to do the same in NA

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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12398 on: July 8, 2019, 06:39:18 pm »
Just to expound on my previous post, and for the benefit of any addict reading this, I think it's useful to point out that simply attending meetings (such as A.A or N.A or G.A) is NOT going to solve your problem. Yes you'll find support there, but that's all they are. They're a support mechanism

To solve the problem you must WORK the steps. Any time I hear someone say "oh I tried A.A, it wasn't for me", I immediately ask them "how many of the steps did you do?" And the reason I ask it is because when most people hear the term "A.A" they immediately think of "meetings". They also tend to form their perception of A.A based on their experiences of being in "meetings"

This is wrong! The big book of A.A never even mentions meetings. Nowhere in the text is there any suggestion that you need to attend them. The book can be summarised as follows:

1. Alcoholism is a progressive disease that will kill you
2. Here are the steps our members have WORKED in order to get sober
3. We have found that every alcoholic who WORKS these steps will stay sober
4. Now go WORK the steps

To anyone lurking in here who may suffer from this disease and wants to recover, my advice is NOT to take yourself straight to a meeting. My advice is take yourself to the nearest bookstore and purchase a copy of the A.A big book and WORK the steps. Don't just read them! Actually do the work and sobriety is virtually guaranteed! Then by all means, may you attend meetings. But I say again, remember that the rooms wont get you sober. WORKING the steps as outlined in the book is what gets you sober
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Re: Alcohol Issues - The Carl van Riel Memorial Thread
« Reply #12399 on: July 8, 2019, 08:12:14 pm »
Here's the Billy The Kid guide to the 12 steps of AA


1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.

The alcoholics problem is that he has lost the power of choice when it comes to drinking. He can no longer choose to abstain via willpower. His life is one big shit show of problems. Hence the use of the words "powerless" and "unmanageable". In a nutshell, the alcoholic is a walking talking clusterfuck


2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

The alcoholic by himself is completely incapable of solving his problem. Because it is a progressive disease, the alcoholic will eventually reach a point where he is completely beyond human aid. That's why sitting in "meetings" or booking himself into a "treatment center" will essentially do fuck all for him. He needs something outside of himself to sort his shit out for him. The reason the word sanity is used here is because alcoholism is a form of insanity. Remember when Carl's doctor told him that his liver was disintegrating and that he was more than likely going to die? Anyone remember what Carl did? He went out and got pissed. That's "insanity"


3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

This is the one that stumps a lot of people. Particularly those with a disdain for religion. When they hear the word "God" they immediately think of the "God" as described in the bible. This is also where A.A gets (wrongfully) accused of being a religious organisation. You must remember that alcoholics are control freaks. They like to do everything "their way". This step basically means that you have to lay down your ego and stop being a selfish c*nt. It also suggests that "your way" is what created the clusterfuck of a life that you now have and that perhaps a little humble pie will do you the world of good


4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

Steps 1 to 3 are preparation. They initiate the mental shift. Steps 4 to 9 is where the WORK begins. These steps aren't for reading, you're supposed to take action and actually do them. For this step, get a pen in your hand and start writing. Note if you will that it says "FEARLESS" moral inventory. That means that you've to write down all the bad shit that you've done in your life. No hiding anything. It has to be balls to the wall warts and all. It doesn't matter how disgusting, decrepit, embarrassing, horrific, evil, degrading, or downright insane your antics are. If you sucked a blokes cock in the back of a Vauxhall then write it the fuck down! Get all your cunty little secrets down on paper so you can see what a horrible little fucker your poor mother shat into existence.


5. Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

When your list is FULLY complete and ALL of your horrible shit housery has been accounted for, take your list to another person and read it aloud to them so they can see what a horrible c*nt of a human being you really are. This helps with the shedding of ones ego as mentioned in step 3. It's also to help you to realise what a shitty person alcohol made you become


6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

This is where you say to yourself "yup, I was a bit of a bastard all right, I best sort out these shit housely ways of mine".


7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

This is where you say "God please help me to be less of a selfish c*nt and to be nicer to my fellow human beings".



8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

This is where the men and women get separated from the boys and girls. Or more specifically, this is where you'll find out if your just the type of c*nt who likes the "idea" of being sober, or if you're honestly and truthfully ready to sort your shit out once and for all. If you sucked that blokes cock in the Vauxhall then you have to track him down and apologise for it. If you banged the neighbours wife then you have to tell him. If he pings you on the chin then take your beating like a man. The workmate you fucked over, apologise to them. The room mate you stole money from, go and give it back to them. Working from your list, make amends to every poor fucker who had the misfortune of coming into your cuntish company



9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

All this step means is to ensure that when you're apologising to people for your cunty ways, make sure you don't cause harm. So let's say Mr. Vauxhall has a wife and kids at home, we wouldn't want them to find out that Daddy likes getting his nuts polished by other blokes in the back of the family car. That might be traumatic for them. So exercise some caution and decorum here. Bear in mind that this step isn't a loop hole to get out of owning up to your cunty ways in step 8. It just mean use some common fucking sense for once in your life


10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

Ok, so now that you've realised what a monumentally twattish shit stain you are, you need to make a conscious effort to pull yourself on your own bullshit whenever you feel your ego is trying to wrestle back control. Remember in step 3 we said bye bye to your ways, your wants, your needs, and your desires. And in step 7 you said you want to stop being a c*nt and be nice to people? Well this step makes you keep those promises. No more going back on your word like you did when you were a piss head


11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

Fill a bath, light some candles, put on some tunes, and ask yourself "what can I do tomorrow to help someone other than myself?". "What can I, the once selfish c*nt do, that will make someone else's life better?" "What can I do for my community?" "Who from my AA group can I phone to check in with and make sure they're doing ok?". "Is there someone from my AA group who's out of work and struggling financially?" "Could I maybe give them the money I'd earmarked for my match ticket?" If you've properly eradicated all of your cuntish tendencies then the answers to these questions will come to you naturally 


12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

Once you've sorted your shit out, take your ass to an AA meeting. If you see a newcomer walk in who's clearly banged up and dying from untreated alcoholism, put your arm around them and say "I was once as fucked up as you are. But today I'm sober. The obsession to drink has finally left me. Here's how I did it". Then sponsor that poor soul and help him go through the 12 steps. Rinse and repeat for the rest of your life. I guarantee that if you do these steps you WILL return to sanity and you will feel a debt of gratitude to the people who pioneered AA


THE END  :)
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