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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2016, 12:39:26 pm »
Rugby and cricket are both slow, stop/start games. Football isn't. Generally the only breaks in a game of football are for injuries.

Or throw ins, corners, free kicks, drinks breaks (occassionally.....).

It isnt difficult to make it work for football. Getting a referee to specifically look at it himself when there's finally a break in play is the dumbest way to do it, its almost self-sabotage. Don't see an issue with it being stop/start whatsoever but again, referee mistakes are big money.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2016, 12:41:27 pm »
Is there any evidence for them being afraid? Or is it more a case that there is always a bit of time after a try whilst the kicker sorts himself out (which carries on whilst the vid ref makes a decision) so the ref has the luxury of using the video ref.

There is in cricket. On front foot no ball incidents. Most umpires now don't even bother checking for front foot no balls now unless a wicket falls and only then do they check the no ball. When in fact the behind the stumps umpire should be checking it every ball. They've become complacent and it could have an impact in the result of the match. Also worth noting even with multiple angle replays, zoomed in video and slow mo there is still not always 100% agreement in decisions such as whether a catch was taken cleanly.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2016, 12:45:30 pm »
If those times posted are correct, it's still 4 minutes after the challenge was made to the penalty was scored. That's way too long. The ref shouldn't be the one reviewing the videos if it's going to cause these delays.

Im all for introducing Video technology, but you absolutely you need a video ref. 

The 4 mins complaint I thin is a bit disingenious.  It was 2 mins from the foul to the award. Ive no idea why it took another 2 mins to score, however those 2 mins would have happened anyway, they were not connected to Video refereeing.

After most Major goalmouth incidents the ball goes dead anyway.  Example a foul in the box will usually go to the keeper or get cleared into touch. Same with balls over the line.

My concern is if there is a major incident - eg Penalty or red card, if the ball remains in play, what happend if whilst deciding on giveing one team a penalty, the other team score a goal or get their own penalty. 

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2016, 12:48:16 pm »
Or throw ins, corners, free kicks, drinks breaks (occassionally.....).

It isnt difficult to make it work for football. Getting a referee to specifically look at it himself when there's finally a break in play is the dumbest way to do it, its almost self-sabotage. Don't see an issue with it being stop/start whatsoever but again, referee mistakes are big money.

Throw ins and corners aren't breaks in the game though (if we're talking about stopping the clock). Free kicks, OK they can take a minute or 2 if there is an injury, but a lot of them aren't breaking up the play. Drinks breaks are rare and won't happen unless there is extreme heat.

I do agree though that it could be made to work, but not the way it has been done here. As both Craig and I have said, get a video ref to make the decision and inform the ref within 20-30 seconds.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2016, 08:22:39 pm »

Is there any evidence for them being afraid? Or is it more a case that there is always a bit of time after a try whilst the kicker sorts himself out (which carries on whilst the vid ref makes a decision) so the ref has the luxury of using the video ref.


That's not how it works in Rugby, they use the video to confirm if the try is valid or not before its given. Once its given then that's it. I used go watch Wigan most weeks with my Stepdad, started in going in 1984. It became obvious as video technology came in that some referees were going to the video when it was totally unnecessary. Might have been the added pressure of it being a televised game and they were scared to get the decision wrong and stopped trusting themselves - video in Rugby League is only available in the televised games, the rest don't have the luxury.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2016, 03:28:16 pm »
I like that they are giving this a try, but from the looks of it, it's not working. At least not in the way they're doing it. I don't really see a video ref being the solution as it would kind of put two different refs in charge. The one on the pitch could be lenient as fuck while the other could be strict. That could be quite confusing for the players.

Why not simply have a challenge-system like in tennis or American football. Give each manager the option to have a situation reviewed per half. Restrict it to important decisions like penalty/no penalty, offside/no offside for a goal, red card/no red card for a foul. The decision on the pitch stays, unless the replay shows 100 percent that it was wrong. If the manager was right and the decision is overturned he gets another chance to have a decision reviewed that half. You might need to fine-tune the whole thing so that the rule can't be exploited by issuing a challenge to stop a quick break or something like that, but that should be possible...

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2016, 11:00:44 pm »
I've always been very against video technology/reviews other than for completely objective decisions i.e. offsides or line decisions (not just goal line). It simply will not work for anything else and those who argue for it never seem to able to explain how it will work effectively.

The idea of it is to end debate but it will not do that. Countless times in a match there is a controversial decision that 50% of people think is right and 50% think is wrong. If that decision gets overturned on review, 50% of people are going to disagree. Hell, even referees will disagree. Controversy will continue.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2016, 01:16:34 am »
the goal line technology - eagle eye - thing is working well, right? it's instantaneous.

I'm sure one or two would not have been given without it this season

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2016, 02:48:55 am »
The problem as I see it with video technology in football is that it could take away just a little bit from the referee's authority, and I would not want us to reach a stage where the referee's integrity, dignity, and supreme interpretive craft was possibly diminished by the demeaning imposition of artificial intelligence superseding his/her/generally his role as the final adjudicator on hairsbreadth decisions on a professional football field.

These men are highly trained and can make exact split-second decisions as to what is in their best interests to ignore. No machine can make that call, and without that, football just becomes a lot of teams that are quite equal, so no telling what may happen from one week to the next. That's not football as I've come to know it!

In favour of referees, therefore, I propose that supporters should have a little whipround for their upkeep. But don't start panicking. It's not as novel a suggestion as it first sounds, as I understand a number of clubs, some big names among them, have been quietly doing exactly this for any number of years. Hurrah to them, say I! They are the true saviours of our much put upon referees. At least those clubs recognise the reliability of a modern referee, valiant, stalwart, and always able to help when things don't look so good.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2016, 03:36:43 am »
The way it should be done is each side has 1/2 challenges a half. The challenge would go to a fifth official who then decides when the game stops so as to prevent a challenge stopping a team from scoring for no reason. In most cases the game will be stopped instantly but the reason for the official is to stop Jose challenging when a player is through on goal..
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2016, 03:42:42 am »
Also from a commercial perspective you could have a one minute ad break whilst its decided. It makes too much sense not to happen.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2016, 08:02:31 am »
Also from a commercial perspective you could have a one minute ad break whilst its decided. It makes too much sense not to happen.

And that's a reason to do it!?

May as well have an advert after a goal too. Or whilst a substitute is happening. Or if someone goes down injured. Are Liverpool just passing the ball around their back four? Ah, we may as well go for a break then!
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2016, 08:17:37 am »
And that's a reason to do it!?

May as well have an advert after a goal too. Or whilst a substitute is happening. Or if someone goes down injured. Are Liverpool just passing the ball around their back four? Ah, we may as well go for a break then!

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2016, 08:48:29 am »
The way it should be done is each side has 1/2 challenges a half. The challenge would go to a fifth official who then decides when the game stops so as to prevent a challenge stopping a team from scoring for no reason. In most cases the game will be stopped instantly but the reason for the official is to stop Jose challenging when a player is through on goal..

The problem with that is you will still have the scenario of the other side scoring before the decision can be reviewed. I'd have some sort of sanction for an obviously frivolous decision - I doubt there'd be too many of them if it meant giving away a penalty.

Otherwise, we already have scenarios where the Asst Ref flags for a foul but is overruled by the Ref. Doesn't play sometimes get stopped there as well? (Can't think of too many examples actually to tell the truth...)
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2016, 10:16:38 am »
the goal line technology - eagle eye - thing is working well, right? it's instantaneous.

I'm sure one or two would not have been given without it this season

Mentioned that last night on MOTD ..the ref looked at his watch ..give the goal ...you could see a few players where about to rush over to argue ...ref just shrugged and tapped his watch an all the players just accepted it .

 I put it out a few years ago on here in another thread about a challenge system whereas the manager or captain has one challenge in the game ( coukd be expnaded ) to challenge a decision ...the wait for the review could actually increase the excitement of the game as we all as spectators wait for a deciscion to be rescinded or given . The captain or the manager also have the responsibility to try and judge when is an appropriate time and thing to challenge . Would then be intersting after a season to see how many challenged were correct and how many were called right by the ref in the first place .

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2016, 11:12:43 am »
I put it out a few years ago on here in another thread about a challenge system whereas the manager or captain has one challenge in the game ( coukd be expnaded ) to challenge a decision ...the wait for the review could actually increase the excitement of the game as we all as spectators wait for a deciscion to be rescinded or given . The captain or the manager also have the responsibility to try and judge when is an appropriate time and thing to challenge . Would then be intersting after a season to see how many challenged were correct and how many were called right by the ref in the first place .

I just see the whole challenge thing as too much interference - it puts another 'dark art' in the hands of the likes of Mourinho, especially if you got more than one - and if you only got one, imagine a CL final where a team uses their challenge up too early and then don't get a blatant late pen, it'd be uproar and then you'd end up with 5 challenges a game. It would become an awful tactical addition to the game that the likes of Jose would find a way to exploit.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2016, 12:15:37 pm »
The thing I always get with video technology in football is where do you draw the line? What things can be challenged.

Say you have someone run free on goal, and gets called offside when he isn't. He doesn't shoot, doesn't score, he gets pulled back before he can. Does that get a video decision? Whats the point of it though the opportunity has gone, all advantage is gone, you can't decide it's a goal, so what do you do? Call it a free kick which is less advantageous? Is it worth it in that matter?

If video refs are going to work, it can only be for goals, pens, and blatant red cards. Thats it. Anything else is either too subjective or does not stem from a moment when play stops sufficiently.

To add to that point, you have to make sure games aren't bogged down by multiple 4 minute breaks; sure you can say you can add the time on later, but football more than Rugby and Cricket is a momentum sport. If you have a team on the ropes a 4 minute break is a killer for you. We should know that better than anyone our whole game is built around constant preassure which forces mistakes and panic states, this type of stoppage would hurt our football badly as it allows the opposition to regroup and catch their breath.

For me, goal decisions can be made with a video ref easily; ball goes in, play stops, ref calls for an opinion, or the video ref watches a replay independently and if needs be counters the refs decision.

Red cards seem easy too; if a particularly violent incident occurs and the ref doesn't see it, video ref can watch, and inform the ref to send the player off the next break in play.

Penalties seem a lot harder; many times a foul can haplen in the box and play doesn't stop. I can only see a penalty decision working on appeals. As someone said, it isn't fair dragging play back for a pen from the other end of the feild 2 minutes after the incident; not only does this make the opposition conceed the pen, but also lose out on a goal scoring opportunity they made completely seperately; it's being punished twice. Pens I therefore think will only work by appealing to the ref after the incident and forcing him to stop play to check. Obviously, there will have to be a set number of appeals so that teams can't abuse it to disrupt play.

For incorrect referee decisions, again play usually stops so these can be easily checked, but the difficulty here is they can be subjective (a penalty incorrectly given in one mans eyes may be correct in anothers. Same with Red Cards; just yesterday people were arguing on the radio over whether Vardy deserved a red or not)
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2016, 12:32:15 pm »
Also from a commercial perspective you could have a one minute ad break whilst its decided. It makes too much sense not to happen.

Fuck that right off. It'll be like the NFL next. An advert for every 30 seconds of action.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2016, 01:29:22 pm »
That's where a game timer that stops and starts on the ref's whistle comes in..fuck Fergie-time off forever. One can only hope.

How does that work for timewasting? A keeper taking too long or a sub taking their time coming off aren't time wasting until the ref decides to take action and by then the time has gone. Does he stop the clock and add time on or does he stop the clock every time the ball goes dead? Stop the game every time a sub is made or after every goal?

Football is a fluid game and the time added on is an allowance at the referee's discretion. Turn it into a stop start game and you fuck up its character.

You'll also change the last few minutes in a close game from an opportunity to attack, to the winning team 'running down the clock'. 

Video replays and stopping the clock will lose far more than it gains. The occasional incorrect decision will be rectified at the cost of losing incredible experiences like the six minutes stoppage time against Chelsea.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2016, 03:08:25 pm »
How does that work for timewasting?...

It's already a start/stop game no? Each time a ref blows up a clock is stopped in his own mind/his stop-watch w/e and he restarts it when he blows again. Perhaps an extra official could take this duty away from the ref and inform him accurately of time to be added on..I would be, still with some reservation, happier with this.

As it stands, I just don't believe that the requisite accuracy is there and it allows an unreliable, and ultimately unfair, arbitrariness into what could potentially be game-deciding seconds..even more so, it  could cost a club a trophy or a lucrative CL spot.

Yes, this will take the 'chanciness' and possible thrill out of the game in what we've been accustomed to as added-on time but it will ultimately confine the result to the 90mins, in which all can still be played for.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2016, 03:36:40 pm »
No.

Not necessary  during the match.

However, dangerous play should be reviewed after the match even if the Ref gave a yellow. If the panel agrees, change to a Red and ban the player.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2016, 03:50:01 pm »
No.

Not necessary  during the match.

However, dangerous play should be reviewed after the match even if the Ref gave a yellow. If the panel agrees, change to a Red and ban the player.

Yes. Fucking ridiculous that this isn't already allowed.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2016, 04:05:21 pm »
It's already a start/stop game no? Each time a ref blows up a clock is stopped in his own mind/his stop-watch w/e and he restarts it when he blows again. Perhaps an extra official could take this duty away from the ref and inform him accurately of time to be added on..I would be, still with some reservation, happier with this.

As it stands, I just don't believe that the requisite accuracy is there and it allows an unreliable, and ultimately unfair, arbitrariness into what could potentially be game-deciding seconds..even more so, it  could cost a club a trophy or a lucrative CL spot.

Yes, this will take the 'chanciness' and possible thrill out of the game in what we've been accustomed to as added-on time but it will ultimately confine the result to the 90mins, in which all can still be played for.

If the time was stopped every time there was a stoppage in play, every match would last at least 120 minutes and potentially up to 140 minutes. On average, the ball is only in play for 57 minutes per 90.

I get what you mean, but in England I think the time keeping is relatively good, although time wasting needs to punished more severely.

It's in Europe where the true issue lies. No matter what happens in stoppage time, the whistle allows blows dead on the allotted time. Take the Dortmund game last season. Four minutes of added time. We scored in the 91st minute, spent a minute celebrating, time wasted and gave away a free-kick that took a minute to be taken. The whistle blew bang on 94 minutes.

That worked in our favour but it has been the same for years. Lyon away (1-1) being the most prominent time it may have cost us.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2016, 04:07:40 pm »
Penalties seem a lot harder; many times a foul can haplen in the box and play doesn't stop. I can only see a penalty decision working on appeals. As someone said, it isn't fair dragging play back for a pen from the other end of the feild 2 minutes after the incident; not only does this make the opposition conceed the pen, but also lose out on a goal scoring opportunity they made completely seperately; it's being punished twice. Pens I therefore think will only work by appealing to the ref after the incident and forcing him to stop play to check. Obviously, there will have to be a set number of appeals so that teams can't abuse it to disrupt play.

Adding anything that results in play being stopped would be abused immediately. Imagine your team being a goal down, they try to break after defending a corner and then an opposition player falls to the floor and their manager claims it's a penalty? Game ruined. The only way I see it working is if play continues after the challenge is made, the video ref looks at the incident while the game goes on and if the ref decides to overturn the original decision then the game is stopped immediately and the new outcome starts. What that would mean is either a lot more time added on each game or the clock needing to be reset to what it was when the incident happened, however it'd also mean minimal time spent standing around waiting.

Agree on it not working for offside calls though, once the decision has been made it can't be unmade. I think it'd be better for offsides if the two linesmen focused solely on that job and other officials were brought in to handle assisting the referee with everything else, either that or some kind of video linesman could be brought in.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2016, 04:18:16 pm »
Not to mention, stoppage of play to review calls WILL eventually lead to adverts by tv companies so they can make their money back on the rights fees. And this is why a 3 hour NFL game is now pushing 4 hours.

Don't be fooled that they won't.


What we love about the game is after the fact discussing the talking points. The controversial calls. The fact the ref is shite.

Expanding Video technology from anything other than goal line technology will ruin the game not enhance it.

But you are going to be inundated by calls from the media, pushed by the broadcasters and advertisers, that all this is needed.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2016, 04:27:15 pm »
If the time was stopped every time there was a stoppage in play, every match would last at least 120 minutes and potentially up to 140 minutes. On average, the ball is only in play for 57 minutes per 90.

Wow, wasn't aware of that stat but it makes the timing error even more egregious. No complaints on a longer game either.

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I get what you mean, but in England I think the time keeping is relatively good, although time wasting needs to punished more severely.

It's in Europe where the true issue lies. No matter what happens in stoppage time, the whistle allows blows dead on the allotted time. Take the Dortmund game last season. Four minutes of added time. We scored in the 91st minute, spent a minute celebrating, time wasted and gave away a free-kick that took a minute to be taken. The whistle blew bang on 94 minutes.

That worked in our favour but it has been the same for years. Lyon away (1-1) being the most prominent time it may have cost us.

Yes exactly, it's all just totally arbitrary and incredibly unfair. Some may exalt this to chance or even romance..I just see it as plain wrong.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2016, 04:42:06 pm »
I think the only way it will work is to use it in decisions where a goal has been scored. So if there's an offside possibility and the player scored, review it. I'd also use it if the ref calls a penalty. It's not a perfect system- mistakes will always happen and video replay won't fix everything, unless you want to stop the game every 5 minutes.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2016, 04:46:31 pm »
don't see the point in using more video tech.
the goal line thing works well but as far as penalties are concerned you can have a dubious decision that splits opinion days later even after pundits have looked at it from all kinds of angles - theres contact its a foul, hes looked for the contact its not a pen etc
think it will just make things worse - people could start questioning all kinds of decisions.
refs are human and their mistakes are part of the game im afraid.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2017, 11:02:18 pm »
Perfect example tonight of why it's needed.

Also -

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2017, 11:48:47 pm »
Perfect example tonight of why it's needed.

Also -

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #70 on: March 29, 2017, 12:08:15 am »
Football is finally moving to the 21st Century Hallelujah!

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #71 on: March 29, 2017, 01:26:52 am »
They will have to review it every time its questionable for consistency. It took a whole minute from the moment Griezmann scored until the goal was disallowed. I'm still skeptic of the introduction of all this technology into football. Sure right now it's only for offsides and goal line technology, but whos to say they won't add even more technology following this. Every extra minute will add up.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #72 on: March 29, 2017, 04:16:48 am »
They will have to review it every time its questionable for consistency. It took a whole minute from the moment Griezmann scored until the goal was disallowed. I'm still skeptic of the introduction of all this technology into football. Sure right now it's only for offsides and goal line technology, but whos to say they won't add even more technology following this. Every extra minute will add up.

Not trying to slate you mate but what is up with people complaining of time taken to review a goal? Just add the minute to the stoppage time.

I would have gladly taken that time if we did review that awful decision at the Etihad when Sterling was flagged offside. Still raging from that bad call. I believe that we would have been champions if that goal was given.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #73 on: March 29, 2017, 06:27:02 am »
Not trying to slate you mate but what is up with people complaining of time taken to review a goal? Just add the minute to the stoppage time.

I would have gladly taken that time if we did review that awful decision at the Etihad when Sterling was flagged offside. Still raging from that bad call. I believe that we would have been champions if that goal was given.
Such a good point.

We've waited decades for a title. I'm sure we can handle a few minutes here and there to get a correct decision.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #74 on: March 29, 2017, 07:18:47 am »
Not trying to slate you mate but what is up with people complaining of time taken to review a goal? Just add the minute to the stoppage time.

I would have gladly taken that time if we did review that awful decision at the Etihad when Sterling was flagged offside. Still raging from that bad call. I believe that we would have been champions if that goal was given.

Why can't it be quicker than a minute? The referee be shouldn't be standing still waiting for a review IMO. It should be reviewed automatically while both teams are walking back for the kickoff. If they have to go back for a free kick then add on some stoppage time to compensate for that.

My main point wasn't necessary with offsides being reviewed but will this be start of more and more technology stopping the natural flow of the game? Will every challenge in the box be reviewed? After every corner/free kick will they review shirt pulling? When will it stop?

We rode our luck a bit in 13/14 I don't think its fair to say the officials cost us the league. Skrtel got away with a blatant handball in the box during our return fixture at Anfield for example.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #75 on: March 29, 2017, 07:45:54 am »
Not trying to slate you mate but what is up with people complaining of time taken to review a goal? Just add the minute to the stoppage time.

I would have gladly taken that time if we did review that awful decision at the Etihad when Sterling was flagged offside. Still raging from that bad call. I believe that we would have been champions if that goal was given.

What would happen in that situation does the ref let offside calls go and then review them with the replay? It would have to be the same for all offsides.
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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #76 on: March 29, 2017, 07:55:58 am »
Most goal celebrations take 30 seconds to a minute anyway. Said for the last few years these should be used at the refs discretion (or when advised by a 5th official watching on a tv). A 5th official could already give the ref his opinion to shave a bit of time, especially if its an obvious call

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #77 on: March 29, 2017, 08:07:59 am »
Defo kill off a few goal celebrations.

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #78 on: March 29, 2017, 12:00:16 pm »
What would happen in that situation does the ref let offside calls go and then review them with the replay? It would have to be the same for all offsides.
This is the biggest issue they have to work out really. How long do players play on for before it's called back? The Sterling example was flagged immediately, by the time hed got to Hart I think Hart had realised and let Sterling round without much fuss, just going from memory but there'll be example like that Would players now keep playing until the ball went dead, or is that incorrect decision allowed to stand because it started so far from the goal?

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Re: Video technology in football - is it needed?
« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2017, 12:24:02 pm »
This is the biggest issue they have to work out really. How long do players play on for before it's called back? The Sterling example was flagged immediately, by the time hed got to Hart I think Hart had realised and let Sterling round without much fuss, just going from memory but there'll be example like that Would players now keep playing until the ball went dead, or is that incorrect decision allowed to stand because it started so far from the goal?

It's an issue. The only way I can see of getting this right is taking the power to give offsides away from refs and linesmen and giving it to a official watching on a monitor.