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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #960 on: November 30, 2010, 10:00:15 pm »
Just to make your day worse

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #961 on: November 30, 2010, 10:01:56 pm »
Nobody is listeniing, the Spanish lads will leave next summer (Pacheco before), G&C will finish their careers in mid table mediocrity out of Europe with the odd cup run for excitement and I will be sitting with my grandchildren in 20 years time saying "i remember when Liverpool were a top side", but they will have to dust off the old history books for proof. 

Sorry to be so negative, had a bad day, but I see few positive signs coming from the club and certainly no quick fix..
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #962 on: November 30, 2010, 10:04:20 pm »
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That'll be the last straw, i'd give up on us if that happened.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #963 on: November 30, 2010, 10:06:39 pm »
Just to make your day worse

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@ @empireofthekop just been reported on talk sport that Carlton cole has signed a pre contract for 8.5 million to join Liverpool in January

enough said
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #964 on: November 30, 2010, 10:07:49 pm »
talk sport also said torres was leaving last summer....they tend to go for the scattergun approach.....fire enough bullets and hope one hits

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #965 on: November 30, 2010, 10:09:31 pm »
talk sport also said torres was leaving last summer....they tend to go for the scattergun approach.....fire enough bullets and hope one hits
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #966 on: November 30, 2010, 10:11:21 pm »
Just to make your day worse

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@ @empireofthekop just been reported on talk sport that Carlton cole has signed a pre contract for 8.5 million to join Liverpool in January

Poulsen, Konchesky and now Carlton f'ing Cole. What the hell is happening to our club?! Throwing what little money we have away on garbage when i'd rather promote kids from the reserves than see guys like that wear the shirt.

I hope to wake up tomorrow to find out this is a load of bollox.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #967 on: November 30, 2010, 10:11:53 pm »
It's a ploy to sell as many C, O, L and E letterd in the club shop, they will be going up by 50p before Chrimbo.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #968 on: November 30, 2010, 10:13:48 pm »
That'll be the last straw, i'd give up on us if that happened.

Don't, there's still the mouth-watering prospect of Zamora partnering Cole in attack. Or rather, in center midfield if we play away.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #969 on: November 30, 2010, 10:19:52 pm »
Sami is a good shout but I'm not sure he's ready yet. But if he had Pako there too then it could work. Both loved and respected by the players, Nando in particular. Whoever is next manager will be working under a new regime with their own ideas about transfers. Comolli will be calling the shots there working to a brief set by John Henry based on the Arsenal model. Buy players under 23 while developing own youth policy. No marquee signings on big wages unless they have a resale value. This is how it's going to be and a new youngish Coach will be installed knowing that's the way it is. This will rule some coaches out (old school) and others in (young blood)

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #970 on: November 30, 2010, 10:40:27 pm »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #971 on: November 30, 2010, 10:50:15 pm »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

 Top post, mate.

 After the torture of Hicks and Gillett, I can't believe there are some people moaning about the current owners. Not only are we safe from the last pair, all evidence tells us that NESV are going to be responsible, forward-thinking custodians for our club. I wish everyone would just stop complaining about such little things and be thankful - 99/100 clubs would love to be in our position.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #972 on: November 30, 2010, 11:24:17 pm »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

Spot on mate.  Did we have any idea they were buying us until the board announced the bid was accepted?  No.
Will we have any idea of their plans before they annouce them?  Probably not.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #973 on: November 30, 2010, 11:30:30 pm »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

An excellent post.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #974 on: November 30, 2010, 11:41:48 pm »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

If I had a biscuit - you could have it.

How many times will the new owners ask for patience before they get some.  Some real panic merchants on here - would love to play poker with some of you lot.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #975 on: November 30, 2010, 11:56:26 pm »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #976 on: December 1, 2010, 12:15:29 am »
in the summer? and until then? You so easily write off an entire season.... I don't understand the reason. Why do you think it will be easier in the summer to attract a class manager or quality players, especially if we do not qualify for the Champions League.

you do understand what will be the outcome if we continue with Hodgson and what the consequences will be if we stay out of the Champions League for a a second season in a row...

I just don't get, the reason people accept to screw an entire season and the possibility of playing in the CL in the next, just to continue with Roy for the sake of it...

Newbies mate.

It makes absolutely no sense to not have a go at it in one of the tightest leagues in forever. Not qualifying to the CL again could be a disaster especially if we're not players in the league either.

GErrard's career will probably be over by the time we make it back to the CL again at this rate.


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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #977 on: December 1, 2010, 08:41:39 am »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #978 on: December 1, 2010, 10:56:15 am »
It makes absolutely no sense to not have a go at it in one of the tightest leagues in forever. Not qualifying to the CL again could be a disaster especially if we're not players in the league either.Gerrard's career will probably be over by the time we make it back to the CL again at this rate.

This pre-supposes that a team that finished seventh last year, then lost a world class player in Masch, was tooled up to beat Arsenal/Chelsea/ManU/City and a resurgent Spurs to a CL spot - whoever the manager was.  And don't forget that this team failed to even make the knock out stages last year when it did qualify.

For me the core question is, can Fenway afford to spend to bolt on to the likes of Kuyt/Reina/Gerrard/Torres to deliver a top four finish over the next couple of seasons? Or are we going to have to cash in our chips and rebuild?

I'm not sure that Fenway know the answer to that yet. Which route we take may certainly require different choices of manager.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #979 on: December 1, 2010, 11:01:01 am »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

Thankyou for this top post. im sure i said this a few pages back and it got deleted for whatever reason, and i agree 100%

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #980 on: December 1, 2010, 11:08:34 am »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

If NESV are waiting for the summer to change manager (and it looks very much like that is the case now) they're basically writing this season off...while that speaks volumes about their long term view and shows that they're the sort of think hard before acting..it is hard to stomach..and they're playing a dangerous game that could see us losing some top players who are becoming or have become disillusioned under Roy.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #981 on: December 1, 2010, 11:08:57 am »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

Well said (written) that man!

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #982 on: December 1, 2010, 12:12:49 pm »
If NESV are waiting for the summer to change manager (and it looks very much like that is the case now) they're basically writing this season off...while that speaks volumes about their long term view and shows that they're the sort of think hard before acting..it is hard to stomach..and they're playing a dangerous game that could see us losing some top players who are becoming or have become disillusioned under Roy.

Firstly, all this pre-supposes that Fenway know what they are doing.........................................

So long as the club is not hurtling towards relegation, sorting out "the Club" before looking at the manager makes sense.The better organised the club, the better the current manager performs ,and the better replacement you can get if he doesn't.

The argument that the Club is disintegrating before the owners very eyes with Roy in charge is a tough one to sustain. The players who "signed up" for this season under G&H will have been expecting worse than we are getting under Fenway. The prospects for CL qualification which were grim entering the season, are no worse now.

If a managerial change was imminent, who would make it? There is no-one qualified to do so - and mysteriously Kenny does not look as though he is being brought into the fold. Who here thinks that Comolli has the credentilas to advise on a manager for LFC? And would the manager whom he recommended, if asked, be selected on the basis of hos DOF role, or that of LFC?
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #983 on: December 1, 2010, 12:20:57 pm »
Newbies mate.

It makes absolutely no sense to not have a go at it in one of the tightest leagues in forever. Not qualifying to the CL again could be a disaster especially if we're not players in the league either.

GErrard's career will probably be over by the time we make it back to the CL again at this rate.



Yes.

our owners need to start showing a different mentality right NOW.

Uli Hoeness, CEO of Bayern Munich, today despite them being off about 14 points...
"We have to stick together and hereīs my message to the manager and the players NOT to give up yet. We will put on a run from now on, we believe we can do that, we will do it and itīs absolutely necessary for us to make it top 4 and play CL"...

... thatīs the mentality.

But if we go on signings players like Carlton Cole as it is said and as we already have (Konchensky, Poulsen), together with this manager all our discussions will be philosophical only.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #984 on: December 1, 2010, 12:33:57 pm »
Our owners need to start showing a different mentality right NOW.Uli Hoeness, CEO of Bayern Munich, today despite them being off about 14 points..."We have to stick together and hereīs my message to the manager and the players NOT to give up yet. We will put on a run from now on, we believe we can do that, we will do it and itīs absolutely necessary for us to make it top 4 and play CL"... ... thatīs the mentality.But if we go on signings players like Carlton Cole as it is said and as we already have (Konchensky, Poulsen), together with this manager all our discussions will be philosophical only.

But Steve we have no CEO to make that rallying cry. Take a look at the Bayern Board - and compare it with ours, we are not in the same stratosphere of knowledge. That was the package we bought into when we welcomed Fenway.

I totally agree with your sentiments about mentality - but there is a vacuum where that lead should be being taken.As for Carlton Cole - I don't think that he is good enough for West Ham...................

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #985 on: December 1, 2010, 12:47:32 pm »
If a managerial change was imminent, who would make it? There is no-one qualified to do so - and mysteriously Kenny does not look as though he is being brought into the fold. Who here thinks that Comolli has the credentilas to advise on a manager for LFC? And would the manager whom he recommended, if asked, be selected on the basis of hos DOF role, or that of LFC?

this is a reasonable point, but who was qualified to appoint Comolli? aside from the fact that he was mates with one of henry's baseball buddies.

you could argue that appointing Comolli was a far more fundamental decision in changing the football management structure of the club than appointing another manager which (although we like to be a club with limited managerial turnover) is a decision that can be easily rectified if it doesn't work out.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #986 on: December 1, 2010, 12:58:35 pm »
this is a reasonable point, but who was qualified to appoint Comolli? aside from the fact that he was mates with one of henry's baseball buddies.

you could argue that appointing Comolli was a far more fundamental decision in changing the football management structure of the club than appointing another manager which (although we like to be a club with limited managerial turnover) is a decision that can be easily rectified if it doesn't work out.

I in turn agree with your point.

I think that the decision making process, and the consequences, of Comolli's appointment ( which may prove a success organisationally and personally) have been grossly undertested on RAWK.

Like others, I am prepared to trust Fenway for quite some time.That does not mean that their decision making, and non-decision making, should go unremarked upon.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #987 on: December 1, 2010, 01:02:30 pm »
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Why are some people assuming that just because NESV aren't coming out and giving us a running commentary, they aren't doing anything behind the scenes with regards to sorting out a new manager? Jesus, just in case anyone has forgotten, these are the same people who managed to buy THE CLUB without any of us cottoning on!

After the shambles of the way the cancers ran the club, weren't WE the ones who begged to go back to the old ways and do our business behind closed doors? Didn't we plead not to have our dirty laundry washed in public any more? Now we've got those owners in place, just because they haven't sent a tweet, changed their Facebook status or updated a website in the last day or two, all of a sudden we think they've lost interest?

The fact is, these are very smart business men. They know exactly what's going on at the moment, and they're putting their plans for the future in place. Thing is, deciding on just who that next manager is to work to their vision isn't a straight forward process and is going to take time. You can't rush into it, you certainly can't make comment on it and you've got to make absolutely sure you've got it right.

They'll do it in their own time, not ours. I mean just look what happens when you get it wrong!

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #988 on: December 1, 2010, 01:06:18 pm »
I really feel success at the moment is more important than building the new stadium, once we've established ourselves as title contenders then we can invest in creating our new fortress

In terms on tranfers, everyone knows the team is in desperate for a quality wingman, the big names like mata and hazard are probably unachieveable, but players like griezmann are fanatastic choices who have incredible potential, i also feel the academy should be utilized especially with players like pacheco and amoo there just waiting for game time.
When it comes to the back department, i believe we have enough back up with wilson and kelly, but i agree that insua should be brought back, i like konchesky, i think he works hard but he is one of the older players in the team and insua would just develop even more if he was here and playing.  The midfield is coming along great with the new found pairing of raul and lucas, and the front line seems to be under control except for the fact that we probably need one more back up striker with experience seeing as how N'gog is still finding his feet, things should eventually work out  :)

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #989 on: December 1, 2010, 01:19:14 pm »
I really feel success at the moment is more important than building the new stadium, once we've established ourselves as title contenders then we can invest in creating our new fortress


Thats easier said than done the way football finance is changing. Spending money on the team is going to get a whole lot more complicated soon and NESV won't be able to go and buy players with money unless the club has generated it. With the FFP rules coming in you'll only be able to spend what you earn and our match day revenue is down 60m on Arsenal. For us to compete we need to make more cash on match days. A new stadium or larger capacity at Anfield is a must.

These new regulations are going to really change things and is probably going to slow down the process of us becoming a force again. We need to build revenues and then invest that money in the team.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #990 on: December 1, 2010, 01:28:39 pm »
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Thats easier said than done the way football finance is changing. Spending money on the team is going to get a whole lot more complicated soon and NESV won't be able to go and buy players with money unless the club has generated it. With the FFP rules coming in you'll only be able to spend what you earn and our match day revenue is down 60m on Arsenal. For us to compete we need to make more cash on match days. A new stadium or larger capacity at Anfield is a must.

These new regulations are going to really change things and is probably going to slow down the process of us becoming a force again. We need to build revenues and then invest that money in the team.

Well to be honest you do make a great point, and you're probably right with all the new FFP rules coming in the action, im just frustrated and want to see the club perform at its best sooner rather than later, but for us to do that we might have to sacrifice some aspects of the next season or so

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #991 on: December 1, 2010, 08:19:37 pm »
Just in case we need a reminder Tom Werner becomes the new chairman of LFC at midnight tonight. Technically speaking this changes things a little although whether we'll notice in the short run remains to be seen.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #992 on: December 1, 2010, 08:29:25 pm »
Just to make your day worse

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That's a REAL statement of intent. The shockwaves will reverberate throughout football. The European elite will be shitting their pants. Well in.


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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #993 on: December 1, 2010, 08:51:25 pm »
NESV said actions speak louder than words well the main action that could have been done was to remove the manager. They haven't so until produce actions I will say they are no better than the parasites we had
It maybe cynical but they haven't done anything yet other than allow a no mark out of his depth manager who has alienated players and will if he stays make us lose Torres Reina Agger Pacheco keep his job.
We have 19 points from 15 games and our football in a majority of our games is diabolical so I don't buy into this keeping it quiet as they are working in the background Once bitten Twice shy so until the produce action I will consider them no better than H & G. The only difference is we aren't in debt but they will re coup there money by selling our the best players we have
Prove me wrong NESV and I will glady eat humble pie but right now with Hodgson in charge you are doing nothing to inspire me with any belief in your ownership

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #994 on: December 1, 2010, 08:54:29 pm »
Just to make your day worse

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@ @empireofthekop just been reported on talk sport that Carlton cole has signed a pre contract for 8.5 million to join Liverpool in January

That would be the nail in the coffin of any chance of getting rid of Roy before the end of the season and probably mean that NESV see him as a medium/long term manager at the moment.  Needless to say we would be royally screwed
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #995 on: December 1, 2010, 08:57:56 pm »
NESV said actions speak louder than words well the main action that could have been done was to remove the manager. They haven't so until produce actions I will say they are no better than the parasites we had
It maybe cynical but they haven't done anything yet other than allow a no mark out of his depth manager who has alienated players and will if he stays make us lose Torres Reina Agger Pacheco keep his job.
We have 19 points from 15 games and our football in a majority of our games is diabolical so I don't buy into this keeping it quiet as they are working in the background Once bitten Twice shy so until the produce action I will consider them no better than H & G. The only difference is we aren't in debt but they will re coup there money by selling our the best players we have
Prove me wrong NESV and I will glady eat humble pie but right now with Hodgson in charge you are doing nothing to inspire me with any belief in your ownership

Feel it's a bit early for all this old chap they have only been here 5 mins and have openly admitted that they don't know much about football and the Premier League, removing the manager at the moment would be stupid even if he is completley useless. They don't have enough experience yet to understand what type of manager they want, Roy will be with us till the summer for better or worse. I'm also not expecting to see any great movement in the Jan transfer window as traditionally not many top quality players are available.
To say they are no better the H&G is utter nonesense, there has been none of the look at us bravado bollocks that you got from the two previous gobshites, Fenway Sports Ltd are going about it in the right way by understanding what needs to be done and more importantly doing it behind closed doors, just cause we aren't hearing anything doesn't mean that nothing is happening.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #996 on: December 1, 2010, 08:59:34 pm »
NESV said actions speak louder than words well the main action that could have been done was to remove the manager. They haven't so until produce actions I will say they are no better than the parasites we had
So if they don't sack the manager right now, regardless of what they may have planned, because you want them to do that, then they are no better than the crooks that ran this club into the ground.  Riiiiight. 
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #997 on: December 1, 2010, 09:08:09 pm »
I posted this before in a thread of its own but it got locked and sank without trace >:(

I tweeted a question to John Henry on Thursday at 21.15

"@John_W_Henry are you aware how despised #hodgsonout is by the fans. imagine anfield when the fans are happy it ROCKS #lfc #ynwa"

Two hours later he tweeted the links to the interview threads

From this I think we can make the logical assumption that John Henry, and Tom Werner and others are, if not by lurking in the forums themselves, at least getting some staffers/colleagues to do so.  As a result we can also therefore assume the following:

That they are fully informed about the majority of views on the Manager
That they are fully aware of the feelings about the way Rafa was dealt with (both sides)
That they fully understand the bafflement and indignation of fans over the treatment of certain players
that they are completely aware of our views on both the British Media treatment of LFC, and of the respective treatments of Rafa and Hodgson
That they are equally well informed of the alleged roles of certain players in the undermining of Rafa

I know that John Henry also follows This is Anfield, Spirit of Shankly and Save Liverpool FC on twitter.  This is clearly a man who wishes to be informed about the club he has bought.

The way I see it is this.  If NESV as an organisation, and John Henry as an individual are that well informed, I think we can also safely assume therefore, that they are able to realise who are the WUMs and morons and who are the informed, intelligent and observant writers and commentators on LFC. which can only give us hope.

Like many I log on each evening (no interweb allowed at work for security reasons), hoping to see that Roy has finally been sacked or "reached a mutual agreement in the interests of the club".  Like many, I am constantly disappointed.  However, being sensible about it, I have to assume based on the reasoning above, that sonner or later NESV will make changes to the management, will do their utmost to keep hold of vital and loyal players, will resolve some of the player power struggles going on (I think we all know what I mean), will come up with a viable (and perhaps surprisingly sentimental) stadium solution, and will give us a club to be proud of again.

All the information we have about John Henry and NESV is that they quietly go about their business, making well informed and intelligent decisions and always try to build for success.  Given that, and my points above I have a building admiration for the fact that they haven't acted in a knee jerk fashion, but are biding their time, gathering information and quietly making the right decisions at the right time.

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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #998 on: December 1, 2010, 09:08:58 pm »
NESV said actions speak louder than words well the main action that could have been done was to remove the manager. They haven't so until produce actions I will say they are no better than the parasites we had

Look mate, I fucking hate Hodgson too, but that is seriously rabble rousing emotionally stunted bollocks.
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Re: NESV are listening...
« Reply #999 on: December 1, 2010, 09:10:30 pm »
they are letting this manager run the club into the ground and I personally believe they will be happy with us mid table until they re coup there investment and by that I mean they will sell our best players to get money back and having Hodgson here makes it ieasier for them to do it.
What actions have they taken to improve us in any way since they got here.? We are facing our worst footballing crisis in my memory but i suppose as I wasn't around in the 50's I have only the early 90's to judge but to me they haven't done a tap to alter this.

I am in the camp that a caretaker manager would be infinitely better than Hodgson in charge and until I see action they are no better than the crooks who ran us previously as we are still going nowhere and their promises are false.

Didn't want Hodgson when he was first muted, was gutted when he was hired and to me he is the last piece of unfinished business since the last regime was removed.
While he is here we accept mediocrity so until that is sorted I am staying cynical.