Topic: Election Night in Canada

[Canada Loves Anfield]

That letter sent a chill down my spine. What a man. RIP Jack

[Rigden]

Lost a great politician and leader. RIP Moustache Jack.

[beardsley4ever]

Another election night tonight in Canada.  Most polls are pointing to a Liberals win - probably a minority/coalition government, but polls have been wrong before.  Lots to learn for UK politics from this, I think.  Incumbent Conservative government being beaten (maybe) by a centrist party that has taken a bit more of a leftist agenda into this election.  They have a young charasmatic leader (Justin Trudeau) who the opposition famously said "wasn't ready" at the start of the campaign, but who has come on massively and has taken some courageous policy positions.  The big winning message has been about a willingness to run deficits to invest in infrastructure - a traditionally more socialist position, but one that is presented as a cohesive economic vision towards prosperity.  Very little in the Liberal platform about addressing wealth inequality (except a commitment to tax the top 1% more, and the rest less) - more about collective prosperity through improved infrastructure.  Will be interesting to see what happens today.

[JP-65]

Another election night tonight in Canada.  Most polls are pointing to a Liberals win - probably a minority/coalition government, but polls have been wrong before.  Lots to learn for UK politics from this, I think.  Incumbent Conservative government being beaten (maybe) by a centrist party that has taken a bit more of a leftist agenda into this election.  They have a young charasmatic leader (Justin Trudeau) who the opposition famously said "wasn't ready" at the start of the campaign, but who has come on massively and has taken some courageous policy positions.  The big winning message has been about a willingness to run deficits to invest in infrastructure - a traditionally more socialist position, but one that is presented as a cohesive economic vision towards prosperity.  Very little in the Liberal platform about addressing wealth inequality (except a commitment to tax the top 1% more, and the rest less) - more about collective prosperity through improved infrastructure.  Will be interesting to see what happens today.

Took the country several generations to pay for/fix his old man's policies

[beardsley4ever]

Took the country several generations to pay for/fix his old man's policies

Which ones specifically?

[rafathegaffa83]

Which ones specifically?

The National Energy Program for one, which prevented Alberta from maximizing the oil crisis in the 70s and inhibited the oil and gas industry from growing. That alone is at the core of the East-West divide in Canada and spurred a young Stephen Harper on, which led to the creation of the Reform Party and it swallowing up the no longer moderate Progressive Conservatives. Trudeau's ability to be likeable and his ability to defy three years of attack ads through solid debates and reinforcing a positive message has seen him win. If the Liberals get a majority, it won't be necessarily a protest vote. Harper put all his eggs in the oil basket economically, while skimping on things at the core of his base, such as declining military funding and pushing a fearmongering approach that I think turned off many Red Tories/Blue Liberals. He'll probably go down as Canada's Nixon without the environmental record.

[ShatnersBassoon]

Bye bye corrupt Tory scum

[Kopenhagen]

 

[Anwer]

Holy moly. First Klopp comes in. And tonight liberals win the majority and Justin Tredeau is our new PM. I'm over the moon right now.

[Red Beret]

*looks at image.  Resists making SuperWhoLock joke.*

[HarryLabrador]

Holy moly. First Klopp comes in. And tonight liberals win the majority and Justin Tredeau is our new PM. I'm over the moon right now.

Best looking leader ever 

[GBF]

glad to see the conservatives not winning with their pointless agenda against immigration and the veil

[Gerry Attrick]

As an Englishman looking from the outside it seems Harper was loathed by a good percentage of the population. Anybody but Harper seemed to be the message 

[jambutty]

Any of the defeated Canucks would make a better prez of the US than the current crew of losers, imo.

[Seebab]

Happy days. It's time we starting improving our image again around the world. Some of Harper's foreign policies made me embarrassed to be Canadian.

[rafathegaffa83]

As an Englishman looking from the outside it seems Harper was loathed by a good percentage of the population. Anybody but Harper seemed to be the message 

Probably too easy to say it was anyone but Harper, after all the NDP who in my opinion come off the biggest losers here, were originally in first at the polls. I think the more Trudeau spoke, the less he became equated with the image portrayed in the years, not months, of attack ads. I think the Liberals policies towards women and looking to stimulate more jobs for young people (investment, middle class tax breaks and lower retirement age) would have appealed to many moderates and under 35s (like myself) who spent most of the Great Recession struggling for work (despite plenty of education).I'm also hoping the Liberals plans for electoral reform, investment in the Navy and bringing back the long form census come to fruition. As a librarian, who has seen closing government libraries try to pass on scientific information to academics to ensure they wouldn't be weeded (i.e destroyed) was disheartening. I eagerly await to see The Government of Canada, rather than the Harper Government on all official government news items

[Gerry Attrick]

Probably too easy to say it was anyone but Harper, after all the NDP who in my opinion come off the biggest losers here, were originally in first at the polls. I think the more Trudeau spoke, the less he became equated with the image portrayed in the years, not months, of attack ads. I think the Liberals policies towards women and looking to stimulate more jobs for young people (investment, middle class tax breaks and lower retirement age) would have appealed to many moderates and under 35s (like myself) who spent most of the Great Recession struggling for work (despite plenty of education).I'm also hoping the Liberals plans for electoral reform, investment in the Navy and bringing back the long form census come to fruition. As a librarian, who has seen closing government libraries try to pass on scientific information to academics to ensure they wouldn't be weeded (i.e destroyed) was disheartening

Yeah, it's probably too easy to say anyone but Harper, but certainly seemed to be a lot of resentment towards him. Also, it seems a lot of his electioneering was focused around trying to discredit Trudeau instead of trying to put forward his own campaign, would that be fair? The 78 day long campaign seemed to blow up in Harper's face. I think the thinking behind that was he had the most funds to campaign for such a long time, instead it gave Trudeau much longer to prove he's ready. Of course, I don't know the ins and outs I'm just speculating

[rafathegaffa83]

That's fair. It was all about trying to discredit Trudeau from day one in the most puerile manner. I think the idea might have been a long election would cause voters to move away from Trudeau once he got going. Instead it backfired, due to a largely flawless and even-tempered campaign strategy. Like something out of a Greek tragedy, the seemingly deep-seated  need to destroy the Liberals and Trudeau ended up being Harper's undoing. One knew something was amiss when many of the top PCs started quitting months ago. The fact that a man consumed by micro-management ended up going to the Ford brothers to drum up support at the very end (rather than living PC PMs like Joe Clark or Brian Mulroney) kind of summed up the alacrity of his late Icarus style fall. I think history will view Harper kinder in Western Canada, but I don't forsee a Diefenbaker style re-appraisal any time soon.

[Seebab]

I know I shouldn't because most politicians are the same, but I am finding Trudeau to be extremely likable thus far. He is saying and doing all the right things so far. Time will tell how successful he will be for Canada but it's nice to just have someone human leading our country. I am very proud of the fact that we are helping those Syrian refugees.   

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

 

The CBC is reporting that Justin Trudeau will be following through with a campaign promise, announcing legislation that will legalize marijuana in Canada by the 1st of July in 2018.

[Something Worse]

The CBC is reporting that Justin Trudeau will be following through with a campaign promise, announcing legislation that will legalize marijuana in Canada by the 1st of July in 2018.

My girlfriend is mad because it's going to get more expensive, be less effective, and probably get coated in pesticides.

[cloggypop]

My girlfriend is mad because it's going to get more expensive, be less effective, and probably get coated in pesticides.

She could always stop being a lazy get and just grow it.

It's really not that difficult.

[Elmo!]

My girlfriend is mad because it's going to get more expensive, be less effective, and probably get coated in pesticides.

Does she really think that weed (on the whole) is currently grown organically???

[Something Worse]

Does she really think that weed (on the whole) is currently grown organically???

I asked her that very question and she said once it's legal it'll be worse.

She's a hippy.

[GBF]

She's a hippy.

and you are Wolf of Wall Street?

[Something Worse]

and you are Wolf of Wall Street?

I have met McConaughey...Sort of

[Giono]

Legalising weed in Canada is so 2010.

[Canada Loves Anfield]

My girlfriend is mad because it's going to get more expensive, be less effective, and probably get coated in pesticides.

The legal weed here in Toronto is far from less effective. Considering you need to smoke 1/5th of what you used to, its actually far cheaper this way.

[Giono]

Fantastic. The Donald Trump coat-tails candidate (Reality TV personality, millionaire) , Kevin O'Leary, has dropped out of the Conservative party leadership race.


https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/04/26/just-like-that-the-anybody-but-oleary-movement-comes-to-an-end-hbert.html

[Day1983]

The CBC is reporting that Justin Trudeau will be following through with a campaign promise, announcing legislation that will legalize marijuana in Canada by the 1st of July in 2018.

Really hope this happens in the UK. It's mental that's it's still illegal and I think one day we will all look back and wonder why there was ever this war against this plant!

[Giono]

Really hope this happens in the UK. It's mental that's it's still illegal and I think one day we will all look back and wonder why there was ever this war against this plant!

It poll well in Canada, because Trudeau has been willing to break other election promises, but not his promise to legalise weed.

Actually decriminalising all drugs and treating abuse as a health issue rather than a legal issue, like in Portugal I believe, is the way to go. But legalising weed is a first step. 

[Day1983]

It poll well in Canada, because Trudeau has been willing to break other election promises, but not his promise to legalise weed.

Actually decriminalising all drugs and treating abuse as a health issue rather than a legal issue, like in Portugal I believe, is the way to go. But legalising weed is a first step.

Yeah, I agree. We are behind the times on the issues surrounding drugs in this country.

[Garrus]

Fantastic. The Donald Drumpf coat-tails candidate (Reality TV personality, millionaire) , Kevin O'Leary, has dropped out of the Conservative party leadership race.


https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/04/26/just-like-that-the-anybody-but-oleary-movement-comes-to-an-end-hbert.html

Haha. He's entertaining on Shark Tank for sure but once you watch him on it, it's apparent that whilst he'll probably do good things for your money, there's absolutely no way he should be heading a country.

[Canada Loves Anfield]

he'll do good things for his money

[rafathegaffa83]

Fantastic. The Donald Drumpf coat-tails candidate (Reality TV personality, millionaire) , Kevin O'Leary, has dropped out of the Conservative party leadership race.


https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/04/26/just-like-that-the-anybody-but-oleary-movement-comes-to-an-end-hbert.html

O' Leary has openly said he wouldn't ever be able to beat Trudeau as he's despised in Québec. He was born in Montreal, but his French is terrible. I get the impression, he was never up for the challenge. Seemed to be doing the bare minimum possible. I can't see Bernier doing much either. Ironically, O'Leary's policies would probably be considered to be quite leftish by U.S. standards

[Giono]

O' Leary has openly said he wouldn't ever be able to beat Trudeau as he's despised in Québec. He was born in Montreal, but his French is terrible. I get the impression, he was never up for the challenge. Seemed to be doing the bare minimum possible. I can't see Bernier doing much either. Ironically, O'Leary's policies would probably be considered to be quite leftish by U.S. standards

Ronald Reagan's policies would be considered lefty these days. Hell, Nixon created the EPA.

Trump is helping Trudeau's election chances everyday. There is a poor crop of conservative leadership challengers...because some of them smell that there is not much of a chance and didn't bother.

[Giono]

The anti-Trump effect is happening in Canada too. The conservative Party of Canada chose a leader and it took over 10 run off votes to get someone over 50%. Seems to be a bit of confusion about what to do and say ion the right these days...


Interestingly, theTrump-lite anti-immigrant/ TV personality leadership candidates became irrelevant awfully fast this spring for some reason...

[rafathegaffa83]

FFS Ontario; Canada's most populous province has its own Trumpian leader

CBC Toronto@CBCToronto
BREAKING: CBC projects the Progressive Conservatives will form a majority government in Ontario: http://bit.ly/2vEGK4b

[Giono]

FFS Ontario; Canada's most populous province has its own Trumpian leader

CBC Toronto@CBCToronto
BREAKING: CBC projects the Progressive Conservatives will form a majority government in Ontario: http://bit.ly/2vEGK4b

1st past the post sucks when you have 2 parties on one side and 1 on the other.

[vagabond]

unfuckingbelievable result. Horrible horrible man and now he's in charge of the largest economy in Canada.