Topic: Roberto Firmino

[TepidT2O]

Sounds like he will get a new deal ….

X News #Firmino: Talks about a new contract have started and running positive. He can really imagine to extend beyond 2023. At least until 2025. Klopps future will have an impact on Firminos decision. Still a top relation between them.

https://twitter.com/plettigoal/status/1601300438078599168?s=61&t=MtKwlvyVVfl_aM84UfqzJw

[Ghost Town]

Excellent.

Armchair Managers, nil point again, lol

[deano2727]

Been our best player this year along with Ali. Definitely can contribute for another season or two. The fact he seems fairly content to come in and out of the 11 is a bonus too. Well deserving to be a member of the best 11 this year though.

[killer-heels]

The lack of respect to Bobby is unacceptable.
His game has adapted and as a result he has prospered.
A heavily incentivised contract to keep a fine player and a huge character in the team makes lots of sense.

Has the team prospered?

[El Lobo]

Has the team prospered?

Just to be clear, are you suggesting Bobby has been a problem for us this season…? We’d be about 16th if we’d jettisoned him in the summer like a few wanted.

[jepovic]

Klopp is a huge fan of Firmino, so I would be shocked if he doesnt stay.

Personally I think it's the right way to go. I don't think we will get a better player to play a part-time role in attack, so save the funds for midfield.

[jepovic]

Has the team prospered?

With that logic we should dump Becker and Van Dijk too, because our defense has been worse than our attack.

[killer-heels]

With that logic we should dump Becker and Van Dijk too, because our defense has been worse than our attack.

Alisson doesnt prevent shot and chance creation. Our defending has been atrocious on the counter and a big part of that is because of our pressing, or lack of. Bobby doesnt do that effectively anymore.

[Knight]

Just to be clear, are you suggesting Bobby has been a problem for us this season…? We’d be about 16th if we’d jettisoned him in the summer like a few wanted.

You’ve rightly pointed out that our failure to cover the ground, press effectively and make as many sprints as in previous years is on the whole team, not just the midfield. Judging from the eye test that certainly includes Bobby. Although he’s proven me entirely wrong in terms of goal scoring.

[Wabaloolah]

People who will moan if he does sign a new contract would also moan if we let him leave on a free

[killer-heels]

People who will moan if he does sign a new contract would also moan if we let him leave on a free

Not really because one leads to another.

[Ghost Town]

People who will moan if he does sign a new contract would also moan if we let him leave on a free

[DelTrotter]

People who will moan if he does sign a new contract would also moan if we let him leave on a free

At least it'd keep the ones who constantly moan about supposed moaning happy!

[Ghost Town]

In other news it's supposedly December

[mickeydocs]

Has the team prospered?

Bobby is not the reason for our defensive struggles.
However, if you find examples where Bobby has been at fault for goals conceded then I will accept that you are the purveyor of great wisdom regarding Bobby.
Until they I will ignore your opinion.

[darragh85]

The decision by the dickhead Brazil coach to leave him at home really came back to bite him in the ass

[Dim Glas]

The decision by the dickhead Brazil coach to leave him at home really came back to bite him in the ass

it really did. A lot of their TikTok dance crew seemed to be the same type of forward. No unique type such as Bobby. To take someone like that Antony ahead of him was really daft.

Their loss for sure, that game yesterday could have done with a Bobby substitute appearance at least. Also seeemed a mistake to not bring Fab on late with penalties in mind.

[Hazell]

it really did. A lot of their TikTok dance crew seemed to be the same type of forward. No unique type such as Bobby. To take someone like that Antony ahead of him was really daft.

I'm glad, I don't know how I'd feel about him looking like a buffoon joining in with their pre-arranged dancing.

[afc tukrish]

I'm glad, I don't know how I'd feel about him looking like a buffoon joining in with their pre-arranged dancing.

He wouldn't. Bobby only dances freelance. with and without pants, slants, and the occasional rants...

[Dim Glas]

I'm glad, I don't know how I'd feel about him looking like a buffoon joining in with their pre-arranged dancing.

 

Bobby would have just being doing his karate kicks and some weird interpretive dance and ruining the whole routine.

[The G in Gerrard]

Hopefully he stays. People just want a dozen new players. Ridiculous really.

[DangerScouse]

Great news if true.

[4pool]

Bobby is top scorer in the League with 7 goals. Plus 3 assists. 13 matches.

Mo, 6 goals, 4 assists in 14 matches.

Darwin, 5 goals, 2 assists in 10 matches.

[SamLad]

Bobby is top scorer in the League with 7 goals. Plus 3 assists. 13 matches.

Mo, 6 goals, 4 assists in 14 matches.

Darwin, 5 goals, 2 assists in 10 matches.

well that's nice, but how many were non-pace goals?

[tubby]

well that's nice, but how many were non-pace goals?

All of Bobby's.

[SamLad]

All of Bobby's.

exactly! 

[The G in Gerrard]

Bobby is top scorer in the League with 7 goals. Plus 3 assists. 13 matches.

Mo, 6 goals, 4 assists in 14 matches.

Darwin, 5 goals, 2 assists in 10 matches.

That's great but what about the press & if he does press what about the goals?!

[4pool]

I'm sure Jurgen would give Bobby a bollocking if Bobby was not pressing properly or enough.

When it was Sadio-Bobby-Mo, they all knew their roles from playing together for seasons and understood when to press together for effectiveness.

This season, Bobby has dropped deeper into the false 9 or even midfield role as Darwin and Mo play up top. It's a tad harder to press from the front when you're back in midfield. Of course Bobby does press when up top, as he looks around for help and to make sure the others know, time to press. There are times he's on his own when pressing. However, won't phase some from being critical.

[Eeyore]

Bobby is top scorer in the League with 7 goals. Plus 3 assists. 13 matches.

Mo, 6 goals, 4 assists in 14 matches.

Darwin, 5 goals, 2 assists in 10 matches.

Ronaldo scored 18 League goals at United last season. He was shown the door because of his inability to press. Something that both Klopp and Ten Haag require from their central attacker.

Bobby could get a similar number to Ronaldo last season but it still compromises the way Jurgen wants to play the game.

That is the crucial thing. Bobby has been part of a central quartet of three centre mids and a false nine that have regularly been over run.

We have had to completely change the way we have played the game as well as change the formation. We desperately need to renew and refresh that area of the pitch.

Sentementality has to be replaced by a ruthless single mindedness. That allows us to get back to being a front footed athletic pressing side.

[The G in Gerrard]

Ronaldo scored 18 League goals at United last season. He was shown the door because of his inability to press. Something that both Klopp and Ten Haag require from their central attacker.

Bobby could get a similar number to Ronaldo last season but it still compromises the way Jurgen wants to play the game.

That is the crucial thing. Bobby has been part of a central quartet of three centre mids and a false nine that have regularly been over run.

We have had to completely change the way we have played the game as well as change the formation. We desperately need to renew and refresh that area of the pitch.

Sentementality has to be replaced by a ruthless single mindedness. That allows us to get back to being a front footed athletic pressing side.

Yet Klopp wants to keep Bobby apparently Unlike the other comparison you gave.

What a load of shite.

[Coolie High]

I'm glad, I don't know how I'd feel about him looking like a buffoon joining in with their pre-arranged dancing.

Bobby dances as well, all the talk about Brazilians dancing is ridiculous, Brazilian like many African nations dance after goals, so what no wonder Vinicius had to come out and say this..

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/18/football/vinicius-jr-racism-dancing-goal-celebration-spt-intl/index.html

[Dim Glas]

Maybe they should spent a bit more time practicing some footy moves rather than their tiktok moves, that’s all people are saying    Spontinaity is great, heck, even a contrived practiced move once in a while, but not 2 or 3 times after every sodding goal

[RyanBabel19]

Bobby really is a magician, unable to press but last I saw he was in the top 99th percentile for tackles and interceptions for forwards

[PaulF]

Bobby would have just being doing his karate kicks and some weird interpretive dance and ruining the whole routine.

Maybe that's why the Brazil coach didn't take him. Idiot.

[4pool]

Ronaldo scored 18 League goals at United last season. He was shown the door because of his inability to press. Something that both Klopp and Ten Haag require from their central attacker.

Bobby could get a similar number to Ronaldo last season but it still compromises the way Jurgen wants to play the game.

That is the crucial thing. Bobby has been part of a central quartet of three centre mids and a false nine that have regularly been over run.

We have had to completely change the way we have played the game as well as change the formation. We desperately need to renew and refresh that area of the pitch.

Sentementality has to be replaced by a ruthless single mindedness. That allows us to get back to being a front footed athletic pressing side.

Al, you can't seriously be saying that Bobby stands around on the pitch like CR. They are wildly different in effort put forth on the pitch.

I mean really...

[Eeyore]

Al, you can't seriously be saying that Bobby stands around on the pitch like CR. They are wildly different in effort put forth on the pitch.

I mean really...

It isn't about standing around it is about having the speed and athleticism to press effectively. Bobby used to be able to hound defenders and force turnovers.

Lallana still played with industry towards the end of his time here. The issue is when the player who leads the press is a yard off then you get played around.

[Samie]

I think Bobby will get a new contract, which would be deserved but ultimately I agree with Al. Just let him finish this season playing the way he has and wish him good luck.

[4pool]

It isn't about standing around it is about having the speed and athleticism to press effectively. Bobby used to be able to hound defenders and force turnovers.

Lallana still played with industry towards the end of his time here. The issue is when the player who leads the press is a yard off then you get played around.

It's funny that Jurgen talks about pressing as a team. You, and a couple others, make it seem the pressing is just up to Bobby.

I would love to sit at a table when you explain to Jurgen what Bobby can't do anymore. 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Ronaldo scored 18 League goals at United last season. He was shown the door because of his inability to press. Something that both Klopp and Ten Haag require from their central attacker.

Bobby could get a similar number to Ronaldo last season but it still compromises the way Jurgen wants to play the game.

That is the crucial thing. Bobby has been part of a central quartet of three centre mids and a false nine that have regularly been over run.

We have had to completely change the way we have played the game as well as change the formation. We desperately need to renew and refresh that area of the pitch.

Sentementality has to be replaced by a ruthless single mindedness. That allows us to get back to being a front footed athletic pressing side.

He was shown the door because he is a c*nt.

[Eeyore]

It's funny that Jurgen talks about pressing as a team. You, and a couple others, make it seem the pressing is just up to Bobby.

I would love to sit at a table when you explain to Jurgen what Bobby can't do anymore. 

It is about who triggers the press and how confident the players who back him up are that he will get close enough to force an error. Once the players around the trigger lose confidence then you get passed around.

As for Jurgen he just spent a record fee on Darwin to play centrally as well as having Jota who press much better than Bobby now.