A player is not remembered for their constant mistakes and giving away of the ball, which Garcia was very accustomed to. They are remembered for their highlights and contributions to winning competitions. Garcia scored a few brilliant goals for us, and definitely played a a big part in getting us to the Champions League final. But, as I watched all the games, and remember the frustration more than the one or two great goals he scored. He'll not be a legend in my eyes, but he will be remembered and will be apart of the Liverpool history, regardless of my opinion.
I don't remember CONSTANT mistakes and giving away of the ball from Garcia because it didn't happen. He also scored around 30 goals for us, most of them crackers. Now it sounds like you didn't watch all the games or your memory is very poor, but I doubt that mate, it's probably just your were clouded by the moans and groans of some fans. Not being funny but go back and look, I could list wonder goal after wonder goal, assist after assist that he contributed that won us games.
Neil D im not having a problem with anything, its all about perception and what you regard a legend as being.
for me its king kenny, rush, stevie, tommy smith, etc.
not anyone who scored a couple of important goals.
Fair enough mate, that's up to you. But it wasn't a couple of important goals, it was a lot of important goals and assists. Five in Europe that year we won the cup. That stunning goal against Chelsea in the FA Cup semi-final the year after. Loads of winning goals, equalisers and assists in the league... if you went back and looked you'd realise for an attacking midfielder he helped us win a lot of games.
Ditto. A legend has to be a huge presence at the club. We've had hundreds of great players in our history, but "legends" is a different category. Legends: Billy Liddell, St. John, Hunt, Clemence, Hughes, Souness, Dalglish, Rush, Hanson, Grobbelaar, Barnes, Fowler, Owen, Gerrard. We could maybe add a few more to that list, but it's a pretty prestigious accolade. Now think of those players and then think of Garcia, you're having a laugh thinking of them in the same light, he's not even one of the hundreds of great players we've had. He was a very good player who scored a few great goals.
He definitely is one of the hundreds of great players we've had. Fowler or Owen are legends (Owen less so, given the manner he left the club) but what did they actually contribute to us in terms of winning trophies? A couple of league cups for Robbie and a UEFA cup, an FA Cup, UEFA Cup and League Cup for Owen. Neither of them contributed to us winning the Champions League or FA Premier League. Garcia was the main man alongside Carragher and Gerrard that won us number five in 2005, so even though he wasn't a legend like those two, his best moments have achieved him legendary status in my eyes.
Dudek is nowhere near a Liverpool great. But for that night in Istanbul, he is part of our history, and will be remembered as a Liverpool legend, if not a legendary player.
At the end of the day it's just semantics, and seems a bit of a pointless argument really.