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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2017, 07:43:28 pm »
Towards the end of my twitter life, earlier this year, I had a discussion with a tech geek and so-called libertarian who argued that the government shouldn't be allowed to prosecute people for having child pornography on their computers as long as the person wasn't involved in the creation of it. Couldn't see the connection between supply and demand. And I'm fairly sure he was serious, and not just trolling.
I'd be informing the appropriate authorities about that c*nt to be honest. couldn't give a bollocks how much grief he'd get, shit like that doesn't even enter a normal thinking person's head. It's either he's mentally ill, a bit slow in the head, or a leftist that's taken leftism to the extremes by his own reckoning. Either way, he's a fucknig class-A idiot.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2017, 07:45:45 pm »
I'd be informing the appropriate authorities about that c*nt to be honest. couldn't give a bollocks how much grief he'd get, shit like that doesn't even enter a normal thinking person's head. It's either he's mentally ill, a bit slow in the head, or a leftist that's taken leftism to the extremes by his own reckoning.

Or he has child porn somwhere.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2017, 08:42:08 pm »
Ultimately the final paragraph is as close to a free society as one could hope for. But then the question would be is that, or a truly free society,  what we want?

Yes, it's probably what we want. But we need to understand that there's responsibility linked to freedom. With social media it is at least in theory possible to get in immediate contact with anyone. People you'd never be allowed to interact with in the real world. Think the President of the US. It's possible to start campaigns like #metoo etc. But it's also possible to troll more or less anyone too. In theory someone could make something up and attack you or me on the same #metoo campaign through a fake account. That could destroy someone's reputation, worldwide, forever. We need to get the responsibilities to match the freedom we want.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2017, 08:54:20 pm »
Yes, it's probably what we want. But we need to understand that there's responsibility linked to freedom. With social media it is at least in theory possible to get in immediate contact with anyone. People you'd never be allowed to interact with in the real world. Think the President of the US. It's possible to start campaigns like #metoo etc. But it's also possible to troll more or less anyone too. In theory someone could make something up and attack you or me on the same #metoo campaign through a fake account. That could destroy someone's reputation, worldwide, forever. We need to get the responsibilities to match the freedom we want.

It can be called responsibility, but it can also be called consequence. If there are consequences to speech be it on social media or in ‘real’ life then are we really free to express our opinions?

Yes, people can be falsely accused of things and it can cause issues. But what about a silly post made a number of years ago which is then used to basically exclude that person from his or her profession and for it to hang over that person forever?

Also, if we are to bring consequences to what we post online, then are we saying that we cannot trust people to develop and almost win the argument and should the state and legislation be the ones to lead the way?

Personally, I do want the state to be the one who determines the path because I believe there should be consequences to what you say even online. But I accept that my view and what the current view is not of a truly free society and nor do I want us to be truly free because of that.

But of course the argument is that maybe all speech should be consequence free and that society can find the right path. Certainly in the case of LGBTQ, its society that forced legislation to change.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2017, 10:33:54 pm »
Social media dilutes the authenticity of proper conversation and that is what I hate the most. You get fast news, funny memes, good discussion, alternative views and everything else. I get that, I understand it for the rights and wrongs of it. However it seems to me that either deliberately or otherwise, social media life is at least equally more important than real life. Especially so with millennials. There comes a point where you have to wonder where real life and online life overlap. There is a certain irony in that considering I'm typing this out on a forum, but forums and the likes of Twitter and Facebook are not exactly the same

You can always have too much of a good thing. Social media is a good example of that. It is seemingly more important for people to have likes and good comments on their statuses and pictures than it is to actually make a meaningful and positive impact on the community or indeed the world. You go to a restaurant and all you see are people clicking away on their phones or taking pictures of their meals. They'll then upload their pictures to social media platforms to essentially say 'Look at me, look how cool I am because I'm eating.' Great, well done you. There is nothing real about it to me. Most people who use social media in such a way to show themselves off are often very insecure or are raging narcissists. Don't get me started on people who 'check in' at the hospital or their local GP surgery with a comment about unwell they are feeling. They want attention. You can apply that logic to many aspects of social media. Attention, acceptance and wanting to be part of something that isn't entirely genuine.

Having said that, I do have a Twitter account. I don't Tweet often, I use it mainly to see updates in sports and politics. Often Twitter is now the source of breaking news, be it team news, goals, sackings, transfer deals. And with other news in the world you get updates from good sources first. It is good for that. But the likes of Instagram, Facebook and the like? No, please no. I got rid of Facebook a long time ago, Instagram I don't really understand anyway and Snapchat is something that is used for people to video and take pictures of their concert/night out/meal/dog taking a shit and show the world. Enjoy the moment. And as a recently shamed* comedian said in one of his shows about videoing things on your phone:'The resolution in real life is totally HD.' You don't need to constantly video things to show people what you are doing.

It tires me. This is the world we live in now, and it will only get worse and not better. I truly feel like I was born in the wrong age. What can you do? You adapt or you get left behind I suppose but the world is such a vastly difference place than it was a decade ago and technology and social media play a massive role in that being the case.

*Apologies for using him in light of the allegations against him, but his point is pertinent in my views on this subject. OJ Simpson was no less of a running back.



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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2017, 10:45:59 am »
I believe that one of the worst things that social media (and the internet in general) has done has allowed the more depraved to find other like minds. If you went back to the early 90s, if you were of a particular mind that was attracted to things that most sane people would consider to be abhorrent, it was pretty difficult to find others who shared your views.


I'm pretty sure that even back in the 1990's it was easy to find and meet up with Conservative Party supporters.



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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2017, 11:24:32 am »
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/15/twitter-verified-blue-checkmarks-richard-spencer

Lots of hateful right-wing twats losing their blue checkmarks today. Hilarious fewm from snowflake right-wingers in full effect.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2017, 08:11:35 pm »

Good post that mate, I'm sure that you've all seen this, but just in case you haven't (as it's sooo old as you young people say).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINa46HeWg8

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2017, 09:40:09 pm »
I'd be informing the appropriate authorities about that c*nt to be honest. couldn't give a bollocks how much grief he'd get, shit like that doesn't even enter a normal thinking person's head. It's either he's mentally ill, a bit slow in the head, or a leftist that's taken leftism to the extremes by his own reckoning. Either way, he's a fucknig class-A idiot.

I reported his account to Twitter and it no longer exists.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2017, 09:50:18 pm »
Good post that mate, I'm sure that you've all seen this, but just in case you haven't (as it's sooo old as you young people say).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINa46HeWg8


Made me think of this.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2017, 10:36:25 pm »
I look at social media from an information science perspective. My biggest gripe with it, as I've said in other threads on the topic, is that humans have lost control of the technology. These problems have been exacerbated by the general lack of media/information literacy skills possessed by most people. You only have to look at the current issues with bots, Photoshop and "fake news."

The vast majority of people think they could discern whether an image or a story is factual or not. The problem is most of them can't, in large part due to the fact they were never taught the skills necessary to tell whether something is right or wrong. Now I'd argue a significant part of that is down to basic laziness, since there is increasingly a culture of being first, rather than being right. The other part is that most people were never taught in school how to evaluate a source. And the ones who are taught by academic librarians in university, generally come into places of higher learning with the idea that they already know those skills (hint: they don't).

We live in an age in which the ordinary person has unprecedented access to untold quantities of information. But it also has an unparalleled capability to limit that information to fields and sectors that confirm their inner biases. The openness of social media has quickly been co-opted by all sorts of groups who mean to use it for nefarious means. I think it has damaged politics more than anything else. Social media has been able to very quickly harden changes in post-Cold War political discourse  in which positions and stances become fixed and partisan. The bots and trolls don't help. You only need to look at some of the disinformation passed on as fact during the Brexit referendum and the U.S. Presidential election by automated bots. And due to the lack of regulation for social media, these acts have  largely gone unchecked and unreported.

Perhaps the only benefit of Trumpism and Brexit is that the traditional mainstream media and law enforcement agencies have woken up to the power of social media tools. Segments of the general public have realized this too, but this knowledge has to become widespread. It is a problem that has more than one source. The parties and attributes that have enabled it have to be stopped and remedied. There needs to be an emphasis in schools and society about the problems of social media etiquette. There has to be an acknowledgement that there is no wall between fantasy and reality with social media. The actions you engage in on social media are part of real life and they have real life consequences.

I think we also need to find a way to balance this notion that now everyone has a voice on the soapbox that is social media. There's a difference between having an opinion and having an informed opinion. That doesn't mean you need a PhD in a topic to discuss it, but you should at least have some basic reasoning for your line of argument other than name calling, telling someone to fuck off, regurgitating the party line etc, if you disagree
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2017, 08:25:01 am »
I can't stand it, I have had enough and wish I was dead!

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2017, 02:03:33 pm »
I can't stand it, I have had enough and wish I was dead!

What is the matter sweetheart?

I don't want to talk about it.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2017, 03:20:04 pm »
The case of Cyntoia Brown has gone viral on social media in the last few days thanks to a few high profile celebrities highlighting her situation. People like Rihanna & Kim Kardashian have been posting this to their millions (hundreds of millions?) of followers;



Whether this is the whole story or whether it's a massively biased/unrepresentative side of the story, I think it's great that cases like this are getting an airing - if there are massive flaws in the system that allow this kind of thing to happen then it's good that the spotlight is on it. Maybe it can lead to a change in the system for the better?

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2017, 03:25:35 pm »
That's pretty cool. Have to agree, in places like Syria it has been instrumental in helping people organise, fight, protest and flee.

I listening to an interview with a Syrian refugee, he had used Facebook while in Syria to gain momentum for protests. He had used Whatsapp to contact a friend in the US while on a boat to Greece to find out their location just before it capsized. When he was on the run, he contacted a Greek passport maker through Facebook so he could forge a document to get into the UK.

Amazing story where social media was the tool for freedom.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2017, 05:00:07 pm »
Amazing story where social media was the tool for freedom.

Double-edged sword though innit - Twitter helped kick start a wave of revolutions across the Arab world - but in the aftermath of these we saw (still see) various factions fighting each other for control leading to conflict-ridden, sectarian, unstructured societies enveloped in war like your man had to risk his life to escape from.

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« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2017, 05:23:00 pm »
Double-edged sword though innit - Twitter helped kick start a wave of revolutions across the Arab world - but in the aftermath of these we saw (still see) various factions fighting each other for control leading to conflict-ridden, sectarian, unstructured societies enveloped in war like your man had to risk his life to escape from.

Yep absolutely, I'd be more on the cynical side personally but still good to hear when it's used right.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2017, 05:46:00 pm »
I think times like today with the budget is when Social media comes into its own.

Before social media all you had was the media putting their views across about the budget.

I guess that why budget falls apart very quickly now its goes under very close scrutiny very quickly.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2017, 04:58:33 am »
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2017, 01:21:50 pm »
The case of Cyntoia Brown has gone viral on social media in the last few days thanks to a few high profile celebrities highlighting her situation. People like Rihanna & Kim Kardashian have been posting this to their millions (hundreds of millions?) of followers;


I appreciate the effort of your post mate but if you're trying to convince people about the merits of social media then maybe a different example than those two fucking idiots would have been better.   ;)
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2017, 05:47:57 am »
I hate that the news stations and news papers are blaming Social media for what happened in Oxford street when they were reporting the same and most of the Tweets would had been people reporting what was on the news.

And the Daily Mail took it one step further saying a car had ran into people first on Oxford street.

And it wasnt fake news it was a false alarm news channels use that to much now.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2018, 05:40:50 pm »
UN: Facebook has turned into a beast in Myanmar

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UN investigators have said the use of Facebook played a "determining role" in stirring up hatred against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar.

One of the team probing allegations of genocide in Myanmar said Facebook had "turned into a beast."

About 700,000 Rohingya have fled to Bangladesh since Myanmar's military launched an operation in August against "insurgents" in Rakhine state.

Facebook has said there is "no place for hate speech" on its platform.

"We take this incredibly seriously and have worked with experts in Myanmar for several years to develop safety resources and counter-speech campaigns," a Facebook spokeswoman told the BBC.

"This work includes a dedicated Safety Page for Myanmar, a locally illustrated version of our Community Standards, and regular training sessions for civil society and local community groups across the country.

"Of course, there is always more we can do and we will continue to work with local experts to help keep our community safe."

The UN's Fact-finding Mission on Myanmar announced the interim findings of its investigation on Monday.

During a press conference the chairman of the mission, Marzuki Darusman, said that social media had "substantively contributed to the level of acrimony" amongst the wider public, against Rohingya Muslims.

"Hate speech is certainly, of course, a part of that," he added.

"As far as the Myanmar situation is concerned, social media is Facebook and Facebook is social media."

A colleague acknowledged that the service had helped people in the country communicate with each other.

But Yanghee Lee, Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Myanmar, added: "We know that the ultra-nationalist Buddhists have their own Facebooks and are really inciting a lot of violence and a lot of hatred against the Rohingya or other ethnic minorities.

"I'm afraid that Facebook has now turned into a beast, and not what it originally intended."

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2018, 05:57:54 pm »
it is like any tool it depends on the person using it
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #64 on: March 20, 2018, 02:25:48 pm »
So the EU, Senate Intel Committee and UK government all want to investigate Facebook/speak to Zuckerberg

Guy Verhofstadt@guyverhofstadt
When is Mark Zuckerberg going to explain what happened with our data? The data breach is an absolute scandal. The European Parliament must start an investigation. I will keep you updated about our progress.

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Official now: UK Commons committee writes to Mark Zuckerberg asking him to get on a plane and front an inquiry in London.

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"It's time" for Mark Zuckerberg and other top Facebook officials "to come and testify," says Sen. Warner, top Democrat on the Senate Intel Committee.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #65 on: March 20, 2018, 04:41:18 pm »
Paul Mason has called for Facebook to be broken up or nationalised, granted I binned my Facebook off years ago so not totally sure how it can be broken up, but nationalised :lmao

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« Reply #67 on: March 20, 2018, 04:43:31 pm »


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Official now: UK Commons committee writes to Mark Zuckerberg asking him to get on a plane and front an inquiry in London.



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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #68 on: March 21, 2018, 07:31:47 pm »
So the EU, Senate Intel Committee and UK government all want to investigate Facebook/speak to Zuckerberg

Guy Verhofstadt@guyverhofstadt
When is Mark Zuckerberg going to explain what happened with our data? The data breach is an absolute scandal. The European Parliament must start an investigation. I will keep you updated about our progress.

Mark Di Stefano @MarkDiStef
Official now: UK Commons committee writes to Mark Zuckerberg asking him to get on a plane and front an inquiry in London.

ABC News@ABC
"It's time" for Mark Zuckerberg and other top Facebook officials "to come and testify," says Sen. Warner, top Democrat on the Senate Intel Committee.
http://abcn.ws/2GJMJ9E



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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2018, 03:39:31 pm »
it is like any tool it depends on the person using it
Indeed.  For all the good it does, you have anti-semitic scum like this using it freely and peddling their hate.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2018, 03:52:40 pm »
Rather than make yet another thread about a form of social media I've decided to put this here. Mods feel free to move it elsewhere if necessary.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/24/tumblr-says-russia-used-it-for-fake-news-during-2016-election?CMP=share_btn_tw
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #71 on: March 24, 2018, 06:39:02 pm »
I downloaded my facebook file and can see it only contains the surface level information.

I wonder what the file would look like if i requested it via the data protection officer.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #72 on: March 24, 2018, 06:48:16 pm »
I had to get both twitter & facebook (last year) to keep up with my IPTV and kodi,neither on my phone,both with fake details and I only ever sign in using my vpn.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2018, 07:25:25 pm »
I had to get both twitter & facebook (last year) to keep up with my IPTV and kodi,neither on my phone,both with fake details and I only ever sign in using my vpn.
The fact that people have to use VPN's really shows how cretinous some of these companies are.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #74 on: March 27, 2018, 01:21:10 pm »
 'Young people get their news from social media' shout. Yes that is true, but we still share links to the likes of The Sun, Daily Mail, Mirror, Guardian ect.. we dont go out and buy papers, we cherry pick what articles we want to read instead. We still read the MSM, just in a different form.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #75 on: April 4, 2018, 09:13:42 am »
Frances Ryan has written a little on social media and disability issues. She says that she had quite the response to asking (obviously online - self-selecting group yada yada) for experiences and the ones she uses are fairly representative of that.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #76 on: April 4, 2018, 09:17:26 am »
Frances Ryan has written a little on social media and disability issues. She says that she had quite the response to asking (obviously online - self-selecting group yada yada) for experiences and the ones she uses are fairly representative of that.

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Could argue that there are online platforms such as forums that mean you dont need to use Facebook and twitter.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #77 on: April 4, 2018, 09:39:59 am »
Could argue that there are online platforms such as forums that mean you dont need to use Facebook and twitter.

For sure, the argument is more in favour of social media generally than any specific platform (in line with Chakan's OP). I'd include forums in that. I know for me there has been a time when someone reaching out on Rawk made a huge difference to me. That said, the ubiquity and aggregating nature of platforms also create a critical mass to allow them to be used and to make contact with others. It's FB's size which allows people to stay in touch with a wide group of people, isn't it? Even if one uses something to pull together social media, one still needs the underlying platforms to have the reach needed. I was thinking of a friend who has a ludicrously rare genetic condition called Ehler's Danlos Syndrome. The chances of even finding a doctor who can diagnose it are slim, never mind being able to find a significant number of others with the same diagnosis without a truly mahoosive population to draw from.
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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #78 on: April 4, 2018, 09:49:21 am »
For sure, the argument is more in favour of social media generally than any specific platform (in line with Chakan's OP). I'd include forums in that. I know for me there has been a time when someone reaching out on Rawk made a huge difference to me. That said, the ubiquity and aggregating nature of platforms also create a critical mass to allow them to be used and to make contact with others. It's FB's size which allows people to stay in touch with a wide group of people, isn't it? Even if one uses something to pull together social media, one still needs the underlying platforms to have the reach needed. I was thinking of a friend who has a ludicrously rare genetic condition called Ehler's Danlos Syndrome. The chances of even finding a doctor who can diagnose it are slim, never mind being able to find a significant number of others with the same diagnosis without a truly mahoosive population to draw from.

That size could be replicated elsewhere. If Facebook, Twitter etc. were taken down tomorrow then something else could replace it and maybe something better, which didnt harvest our data and/or is more regulated. The platforms have co-incided with our increasing Internet savvyness and so more innovation and the need to spill your guts out will always now remain.

Obviously stories like these certainly put a positive tick in the ‘For’ social media argument but in its current guise its still well stacked in the ‘Against’ box for me.

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Re: Social Media - Good/Bad Discussion
« Reply #79 on: April 4, 2018, 10:02:18 am »
That size could be replicated elsewhere. If Facebook, Twitter etc. were taken down tomorrow then something else could replace it and maybe something better, which didnt harvest our data and/or is more regulated. The platforms have co-incided with our increasing Internet savvyness and so more innovation and the need to spill your guts out will always now remain.

Obviously stories like these certainly put a positive tick in the ‘For’ social media argument but in its current guise its still well stacked in the ‘Against’ box for me.

Would agree with some of what you say there. I do see a distinction to be made between 'social media' and 'shitty social media companies' behaviour'. Interesting point about spilling our guts out. Are you telling me that you don't want to see my pictures of afternoon tea in Harrogate yesterday? ;) Slightly more seriously, yeah, there's a lot to it obviously and this, as you say, is only one perspective out of many. As Ryan says, there's also a paradox there with social media also sometimes having a negative impact upon people's mental health. We're social critters but hell is other people.
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