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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #200 on: July 30, 2017, 09:13:11 pm »
Jim Beglin then David Burrows.

We've got to include Aurelio as good haven't we? Old age is making my mind go blank but who took over from Alan Kennedy?

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #201 on: July 31, 2017, 01:28:41 am »
We've got to include Aurelio as good haven't we? Old age is making my mind go blank but who took over from Alan Kennedy?

Did Nicol play there for a while? Then you had Ablett followed by Burrows in the late 80s, early 90s, a short spell of Dicks and then Bjornebye.

Oops and Beglin as mentioned above!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #202 on: July 31, 2017, 03:03:40 am »
Sorry I missed this before, working this past week.

I think in terms of what defenders do, that can be dictated by system and team than anything else. For example, Spurs as an entire team average 8 interceptions per game. Which means if you play full back for spurs you won´t get anywhere near how many Robertson has. Whereas West Ham average 16 per game.

I think this is due to how the teams defend. I am noticing a trend between passive defence (West Ham, Hull, Man United, Arsenal) and active defence (Spurs, Liverpool).

The more aggressive you press, the less interceptions you have. This is because you tend to force recoveries (sloppy passes direct to an opponent) rather than interceptions (player moves into the path of a pass) when pressing. Whereas in a more passive defence, you are mostly trying to stay compact, in shape and therefore can easily pick off a passing in tight passing lanes. Of course you can still see the individual behind the system. Davies and Rose look entirely different in their defensive numbers for example. Likewise Monreal and Gibbs (although I think that´s because the former is a very good player and the latter is a very shite player). Likewise Moreno-Flanagan-Milner-Clyne. They all look very different.

You can see, for example, Flanagan & Moreno tend to do actions that involve charging the ball. Tackles & Interceptions. Whereas Clyne is the opposite - he will keep his position, rarely foul, rarely be beaten, has lots of recoveries, blocked passes etc. Milner is a little of both. Robertson shows as a Clyne-like fullback in terms of approach to defending, which I think is a good thing. I haven´t looked at attacking numbers. I wanted to compare the Trippier, Davies & Alonso numbers from their old systems to new to see if there is an obvious trend.

I havent seen anything that concerns me though about Robertson. I was worried he was reckless in the penalty area but he had two moments last night and seems to favour not committing to trying to win the ball in a bad spot. Very encouraging.

Whilst I agree with the overall point another reason for the differences in numbers between Rose/Davies and Gibbs/Monreal could be that Davies and Monreal both spent a significant portion of last season playing as a left CB in a 3.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #203 on: July 31, 2017, 03:34:41 pm »
Whilst I agree with the overall point another reason for the differences in numbers between Rose/Davies and Gibbs/Monreal could be that Davies and Monreal both spent a significant portion of last season playing as a left CB in a 3.
Davies didn´t show up as a CB in the league when I filtered (I excluded Blind for this reason). I thought he only played there in Europe? Monreal showed up but it was less than 20% of his minutes played were in CB so I didn´t think it would skew results too much.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #204 on: July 31, 2017, 03:36:33 pm »
Btw from reading Robertson´s interviews, it seems he started out as a central midfielder. Moved to left midfield and then left back.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #205 on: July 31, 2017, 07:18:31 pm »
Did Nicol play there for a while? Then you had Ablett followed by Burrows in the late 80s, early 90s, a short spell of Dicks and then Bjornebye.

Oops and Beglin as mentioned above!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #206 on: July 31, 2017, 08:26:34 pm »
Jim Beglin then David Burrows.
Bareth Venison played a few games at left back as well as right back

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #207 on: July 31, 2017, 08:32:18 pm »
Bareth Venison played a few games at left back as well as right back

So that's what Barry is short for!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #208 on: July 31, 2017, 08:32:34 pm »
Did Nicol play there for a while? Then you had Ablett followed by Burrows in the late 80s, early 90s, a short spell of Dicks and then Bjornebye.

Oops and Beglin as mentioned above!

I'm sure Nicol did for a while. My minds gone blank after Alan Kennedy scored in Rome.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #209 on: August 1, 2017, 01:39:54 am »
do we think he starts v watford?

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #210 on: August 1, 2017, 07:15:25 am »
So that's what Barry is short for!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #211 on: August 1, 2017, 07:35:04 am »
Bareth Venison played a few games at left back as well as right back
So that's what Barry is short for!
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #212 on: August 1, 2017, 07:56:19 am »
do we think he starts v watford?

If Milner is fit I think he gets the nod.

I can see Robertson getting stars at home when buses are parked and gradually take over as first choice.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #213 on: August 1, 2017, 08:41:34 am »
If Milner is fit I think he gets the nod.

I can see Robertson getting stars at home when buses are parked and gradually take over as first choice.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #214 on: August 19, 2017, 03:50:39 pm »
Looks like we've got ourselves a proper left back, looking forward to seeing him after another month of getting to grips with our system.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #215 on: August 19, 2017, 03:52:08 pm »
Looks a fantastic signing. Sweet left foot. Like the best bits of Kolarov and Blind rolled into one.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #216 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:05 pm »
A breath of fresh air having a left back that can do both, attack and defend. Great first half from him

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #217 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:37 pm »
I like his crossing
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #218 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:29 pm »
Excellent debut so far. Delighted for the lad. Pleased that he understands the importance of getting the ball in dangerous areas.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #219 on: August 19, 2017, 03:56:19 pm »
Him and Milner are the only players in our squad that can cross. It's like the players haven't got used to the quality of balls coming in yet.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #220 on: August 19, 2017, 03:58:06 pm »
Our best player in the first half. He should've had two assists.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #221 on: August 19, 2017, 03:59:03 pm »
I mentioned in the ht thread, reminds me very much of Arbeloa, except he's a much better crossser of the ball, but his link up [remember Arbeloa,Pennant and Crouch combo against Arsenal circa 2007 at Anfield], movement on and off the ball, passing, is really good.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #222 on: August 19, 2017, 03:59:07 pm »
Appears to be a good signing.  Though he hasn't had much actual defending to do.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #223 on: August 19, 2017, 04:52:25 pm »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #224 on: August 19, 2017, 04:52:55 pm »
Really impressive debut.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #225 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:08 pm »
Well done lad. Should be our regular Left Back starting from today. 

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #226 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:13 pm »
Pretty solid that. Potentially good delivery too.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #227 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:15 pm »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #228 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:16 pm »
Good Job today

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #229 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:23 pm »
Very good performance today. Unlucky not to crown it with a goal, well in lad.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #230 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:24 pm »
I like this lad! And was lovely to see some quality crossing rather than hopeful whacks.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #231 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:24 pm »
very impressed with him today.   8)

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #232 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:24 pm »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #233 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:28 pm »
Some of his crosses were lovely, we just need to make sure we get someone on the end of them.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #234 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:29 pm »
Only his first game but it was a good one. Keep it up lad!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #235 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:40 pm »
Second half he looked strong. Really impressed me!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #236 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:51 pm »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #237 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:53 pm »
Promising debut. Well done, lad.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #238 on: August 19, 2017, 04:53:57 pm »
I like this lad! And was lovely to see some quality crossing rather than hopeful whacks.

yep, if the finishing was more composed, the lad would have had 2 assists to go with his excellent overall display.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #239 on: August 19, 2017, 04:54:14 pm »
Got a lot of space today, put in some quality crosses and made some really smart runs.  Seems to do the basics well which is the least you'd want from a footballer.
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