Author Topic: Music from the other side of the fence (Read 8098 times)

Filler. · « **Reply #40 on:** June 9, 2016, 12:03:31 am »

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Good to start page 2 with The Residents. To get things back on track. THE quintessential oddball band, probably of them all. They are partly to blame for so so much. As prolific as they are daft, and surrounded by mystery, The Residents will always be on an alter.

Venton · « **Reply #41 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:59:48 pm »

Nice work with The Residents. True oddballs.

Filler. · « **Reply #42 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:18:45 pm »

The Gutters. Came across them the other day. Going to get in touch with them to buy some vinyl. They're not really a band 'on the other side of a fence' really, but where else to give a heads up? Then again... they're English (I think - at least one of them is - they're a two piece - I like 2 pieces), but living in Los Angeles. So a sort of other side.

Best to get onto their bandcamp page for a listen... https://thegutters.bandcamp.com/ (Laptop Pro on their 'should we make a 7"' 7" I loved). Got a bit of Sleaford Mods about them, but very garage if that was putting you off.

Two tracks on youtube with a combined viewing figure of around 300. One of which is:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zW0PVITVlj8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zW0PVITVlj8</a>

Well worth listening to their 'Eventually' LP from 2014. Getting played muchly here at home.

Venton · « **Reply #43 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:34:46 pm »

I like that It's 1984 EP. You're right about the Sleaford Mods bit there. I miss angry frontmen, like that lad from Future Of The Left.

I note that it appears in one other collection on Bandcamp and there is a French connection to it. Are you the delightfully named the arse'plot?

Filler. · « **Reply #44 on:** June 12, 2016, 12:17:39 am »

I am not arse plot no. Just worked out what you were on about

I see you've bought a digi copy of said EP. Have never bought anything on bandcamp - but should do. You buy quite a bit from there I see... Bandcamp seems to be a place that bands would rather be on than say Spotify, and I can see why. New to it really. New to Spotify really too. I found The Gutters after getting a heads up by a mate who's just released his first solo LP... he's one half of the Bugs from Portland. The Bugs are stupendous. I was clicking around the net, and there was a gig connection there with the two bands, so had a listen.

Bugs: https://thebugspdx.bandcamp.com/ The Bugs LP is a starter... (Got all Bugs LP's on vinyl or CD)

Paul's solo LP: https://plasticharmonyband.bandcamp.com/releases (vinyl out soon)

Venton · « **Reply #45 on:** June 12, 2016, 12:43:12 am »

Ha, sorry, thought there was a trail there

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Bandcamp is great in that it puts more money directly in the bands' pockets, allows you to have a listen first, download it drm free at your own discretion after you have bought it, stores it in the cloud so you can listen to it via an app or a browser and hooks in to Sonos. You can also go browsing around the artists, see who else has bought the same thing and what else they have and generally go a-wandering. Which can be a bit dangerous post-boozer when you can pay for it with paypal. So, that Gutters EP was $2 which I was happy to put directly in their pocket seeing as I liked it. Then I saw that Mr Arse'Plot from France had bought it (who I now know is not you) and had a quick look at what else he was listening to, so ended up also buying the Bacon Fudge cassette for €4 too after a bit of a listen. Like I say, it's a dangerous addictive business post-boozer. See, I'm going to have to listen to The Bugs now whilst Mrs Venton snores gently in the east wing, oblivious to me spending the money for our next holiday on frippery....

Filler. · « **Reply #46 on:** June 12, 2016, 12:51:07 am »

Quote from: Venton on June 12, 2016, 12:43:12 am

See, I'm going to have to listen to The Bugs now whilst Mrs Venton snores gently in the east wing, oblivious to me spending the money for our next holiday on frippery....

ah, well you're fucked then

On the back of that Bugs LP are liner notes written by Richard Meltzer. Ends with a 'The Bugs are the Flying Fucking Shit.' ~~I'll find a snap of it...~~

Can't find it. Vinyl in boxes.

Venton · « **Reply #47 on:** June 12, 2016, 01:16:11 am »

Quote from: Filler. on June 12, 2016, 12:51:07 am

ah, well you're fucked then

On the back of that Bugs LP are liner notes written by Richard Meltzer. Ends with a 'The Bugs are the Flying Fucking Shit.' ~~I'll find a snap of it...~~

Can't find it. Vinyl in boxes.

That's the trouble with tangible music - it's all stored away somewhere! Enjoyed The Bugs and am now drifting inevitably towards dark, nihilistic, garage-country with Johnny Dowd.

Sorry, don't know how to embed video quite yet: https://youtu.be/beAqY_uRHCs.

Filler. · « **Reply #48 on:** June 12, 2016, 01:21:32 am »

What I did find tho, was a snap of the review of Trumans Waters Spasm Smash which I stuck on the inner sleeve of said album that introduced me to ALL those bands mentioned. A road of discovery for me back in 1992. Now there's an album.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/YEfRbByFfLI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/YEfRbByFfLI</a>

Filler. · « **Reply #49 on:** June 12, 2016, 02:43:59 am »

Quote from: Venton on June 12, 2016, 01:16:11 am

Sorry, don't know how to embed video quite yet: https://youtu.be/beAqY_uRHCs.

that sounded good. Cut off it seems.

To embed... quote a post that has an embedded video and have a look at the coding (as an example). On youtube, copy the embed coding. In rawk, paste, then select all, and click the 'f' (flash) icon in preview mode. That wraps the whole thing in 'flash'. Adjust the flash sizing to the size it suggests in the bit you've copied - the default is 200,200, so you change that to say 640,480). Keep refering to the post you've quoted to see how it's done. Delete a lot of stuff to the left and right, change 'embed' to 'v'.

It's almost harder to describe than do.

Venton · « **Reply #50 on:** June 12, 2016, 10:01:25 am »

Eh, voila! Cheers

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/beAqY_uRHCs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/beAqY_uRHCs</a>

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Filler. · « **Reply #51 on:** June 14, 2016, 11:02:59 pm »

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Through the stinking mud. This was my album. A few tunes on youtube from this tremendous thing, but not enough. Needs to heard in full, from the off. Doesn't make sense otherwise. I listen to it rarely now. A friend of mine used to listen to 2112 by Rush very rarely, but always in full. It was his favourite album. I had similar tendencies to this eventually, even tho it was a weekly event. I couldn't stand Rush, he hated Trumans. Brothers in arms.

and the very last time I'll post this: I think I've done it before.

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enjoyed that Venton.

Venton · « **Reply #52 on:** June 16, 2016, 06:41:11 pm »

Love that messy guitar with a bit of howling

Today I've been listening to a Finnish band off the Fonal Records label - Shogun Kunitoki. Driving organ that drifts between krautrock and futuristic dreamscape.

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Filler. · « **Reply #53 on:** July 24, 2016, 07:27:14 am »

Culturcide.

Was going to drop this into the hardcore thread but doesn't really go there. Culturcide, mainly a 2 piece from Houston, Texas, came out of the hardcore punk scene in the 1980's. Scant amount of info on them really, but their most famous moment is their LP, Tacky Souvenirs of Pre-Revolutionary America from the mid 80's.

"Home-taping is killing the record industry...so keep doing it. Let this record be the master for your cassette edition."

The LP got them into a few problems on the legal side of things, as they set about cutting and pasting, destroying, mocking and magimixing many famous songs by big artists. It's a shame that They Wish They Could All Be Californian Punks isn't on YT, but I found it on WFMU... https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/33742 (1:54:25 in). A few other bits and bobs tho on YT (including the greatest Christmas single you'll ever hear).

Here's one for Bruce tho:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/MFt7j-bpYEg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/MFt7j-bpYEg</a>

a good playlist here... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL574EB103D740DE43 (embedded disabled) - Look out for 'They Aren't The World'

, and a good few songs live (rare footage of a recent reunion).

Filler. · « **Reply #54 on:** July 25, 2016, 10:28:48 pm »

Am a big fan of Brian Turner at WFMU... http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/BT

Am a big fan of WFMU full stop, but Brian's show is great. Comes out live Tuesday nights 7pm, but all archived. Because it's archived so well, I get lazy, and dip in when I can now. But having it come in live was something I used to look forward to on a Tuesday night. Must get back into doing that, starting tomorrow night.

Was quite pleased to see that Senyawa are doing a session in a few weeks. From Indonesia.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/mLw659ze9aI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/mLw659ze9aI</a>

But then I see that IANCU DUMITRESCU has done a session in recent weeks. I knew nothing about IANCU DUMITRESCU until the Euro 2016 thread got going, and came across one piece of his that blew me away, while I was searching for Romania. Went to bed with it in headphones.

Loved this in the YT comments bit: 'I'm open minded about a lot of musical genres but this is pure shit.' It's not for the feint hearted that's for sure!

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Z2CjcpIFwOQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Z2CjcpIFwOQ</a>

Filler. · « **Reply #55 on:** July 26, 2016, 11:11:56 pm »

Just caught the end of the Horse Lords session on WFMU - sounded really good - must revisit when it comes up online tomorrow. 3rd? LP released in April this year. Tempted to just buy it but I have to stop!

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... so I'm dancing about the net looking at this, that and the other, and discovered the very sad news that Tony Conrad passed away in early April. Conrad was a huge name in the avant garde and one of the pioneers of drone and noise, influencing John Cale, Faust, Sonic Youth etc.

Wiki: Anthony Schmalz "Tony" Conrad (March 7, 1940 – April 9, 2016) was an American avant-garde video artist, experimental filmmaker, musician, composer, sound artist, teacher and writer. Active in a variety of media since the early 1960s, he was a pioneer of both structural film and drone music (or, as he has qualified, "The first non-bagpipe western drone music").[2]

Had the pleasure of having him over for dinner at my place one night, and he was a lovely gentleman. I was quite nervous, but thankfully all went swimmingly and a good evening was had, talking music and stuff (mainly stuff). He was in his late 60's then, and kept up the pace with ease. Lovely man. His classic and most famous album is Outside The Dream Sindicate from 1972:

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Thank you Tony. Rest in Noise x

Came across Le Flange du Mal earlier... It's one of life's great mysteries to me... why I like certain music. But in about 2 seconds... sometimes you're there aren't you. I was there, here, hare, here with this:

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Filler. · « **Reply #56 on:** August 13, 2016, 02:50:07 am »

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Have a trumans playlist in the background, and then mindstab cropped up. Haven't listened to spasm smash in full for years but fucking love this track. It's not even an other side of the fence track... it's pop basically. Pop music for the socially unsound. We'll get back to the other side soon, but for now, that. Lovely.

Filler. · « **Reply #57 on:** October 12, 2016, 05:36:01 pm »

I've been looking into a band called Les Rallizes Dénudés in the last day or so. A half hour here, 10 minutes there, an hour this morning, and a bit now. Came across them the other day in the comments section of a Quietus radio programme with Stewart Lee. Someone had spotted what t-shirt he was wearing, so I casually googled it.

Fuck. Me.

So I'm just going to attempt to summarise what I've read, half-read, and skim-read in that time, without checking anything- I'm fond of my blunders, and quite frankly, it'll be much easier. They were active between 1967-1994 and have never released an album. There have been dozens of albums of their live shows released on bootleg, and I think they OK'd one or two and became 'official' releases but you'll have to take my word. I think they attempted to get into a studio once but they hated it. Their live shows were ferociously noisy events - thundering feedback, and wails of noise battering everyone's brains in, complete with an overpowering light show.

Les Rallizes Dénudés weren't French, but were in fact Japanese. It was a four piece, and a 3 piece and a 5 piece, with members coming and going, but held together by the lead singer, Takashi Mizutani (I had to check that).

In some circles (actually, quite a few), he's a revered demi-god in the rock underground. A hugely mysterious figure with only a few interviews to his name (if any - haven't found one yet tho in truth I haven't yet looked). In the late 80's, early 90's, Les Rallizes Dénudés would appear randomly and only once, in some kind of secret gig somewhere, and today, nobody knows if he's alive or dead. He's a loner and a reclusive, shunning almost everything to do with attention, apart from fronting and creating the most extraordinary noise. His reclusiveness was acerbated when a former bass guitarist of the band was involved in a notorious hijacking of an airplane. The bands sympathies were with the Red Army, and the gang who hijacked the plane are now living safely in North Korea.

Julian Cope of course is a huge admirer, and am about to buy his book on Japanese underground rock - have always loved the Japanese - The Ruins, Melt Banana, Boredoms, Acid Mothers Temple et al, the films of Ozu and Mizoguchi , of Kurosawa and Beat Takeshi, but this has been a mental eye opener about a band I never knew existed till 24 hours ago.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/BYteF-C4S_o" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/BYteF-C4S_o</a>

They say that the '77 Live' album is one of their best. Waiting for a moment to indulge. Can't now find the quote from Julian Cope about the next tune... was funny, and very spot on. Enjoy!

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/f9W-2lZ5EnQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/f9W-2lZ5EnQ</a>

burnt the fucking pizza! bah.

RedmeisterOZ · « **Reply #58 on:** November 18, 2016, 06:23:11 am »

Jambinai (from South Korea)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/1C7rEqvXbk8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/1C7rEqvXbk8</a>

RedmeisterOZ · « **Reply #59 on:** November 19, 2016, 01:48:41 am »

This is how you sign off.

Fushitsusha.
Encore at St John at Hackney Church, London

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Filler. · « **Reply #60 on:** November 19, 2016, 02:02:53 am »

lovely

Filler. · « **Reply #61 on:** January 7, 2017, 11:14:20 pm »

First really good album I've heard this year was released in 2013, by a band called Invisible Hands. Had passed me by till now. The band are headed by Alan Bishop, (also known as Alvarius B) from the peerless Sun City Girls, and formed amongst the uprising in Egypt in 2011 with 4 or 5 highly respected Egyptian musicians. It took 2 years to make in Egypt in extraordinary circumstances, and the gatefold 2xLP that I'm eying up has the album sung in arabic for the 2nd slab of vinyl. Slightly different, equally good.

The whole thing is on Spotify, as are many Alvarius B records, and the Sun City Girls vast catalogue (which used to not exist on Spotify) seems to be growing.

One of my favourite tracks here, but not really a taster of what's to follow or come before on the album - it dances about, but a real beauty.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/SwjBX3qkgcM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/SwjBX3qkgcM</a>

Filler. · « **Reply #62 on:** June 22, 2017, 01:36:15 am »

For me, one of the great albums of the nineties... Mother of All Saints in double gatefold by this band with a truly ridiculous name. I'll gladly admit, that I was sold on the name initially. I managed to find a compilation LP with an early song of theirs on it, and ran back home in eager anticipation to finally hear a song by this band I'd seen mentioned called The Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 ... but it was a bit crap. But I ~~ignored~~ [edit:] followed ¹some voices in my head and went ahead with per-chasing this LP.. one of the best decisions I ever made.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/JHmdci-fGLk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/JHmdci-fGLk</a>

Notes: ¹

Filler. · « **Reply #63 on:** July 13, 2017, 01:40:32 am »

Suburban Lawns: Janitor (1981) from California. New to me today. Swoon.

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MOZ · « **Reply #64 on:** July 13, 2017, 10:08:10 am »

Quote from: Filler. on July 13, 2017, 01:40:32 am

Suburban Lawns: Janitor (1981) from California. New to me today. Swoon.

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Szemerényi · « **Reply #65 on:** July 13, 2017, 04:35:17 pm »

Quote from: RedmeisterOZ on November 19, 2016, 01:48:41 am

This is how you sign off.

Fushitsusha.
Encore at St John at Hackney Church, London

Didn't know they still played live. Saw Keijio Haino solo 12 years ago. The warm up was another japanese dude who folded paper planes with an ambient backing track. Don't remember his name. Haino is a proper madman. Announced his arrival by threatening the audience to take the plane back to japan, if anyone lighted a cigarette inside. I read that his teacher in public school locked him into a box under the desk, because he was so unruly. The performance was a mix of his trademark banshee screams, guitar freakouts, hits on a gong and a solo on an unusual looking instrument. I think it was his hurdy gurdy. The volume could shatter your ear drums, of course. it was one the most relentless shows i have been to together with Lightning Bolt and My Bloody Valentine.

Filler. · « **Reply #66 on:** July 14, 2017, 12:41:49 am »

Have fallen in love with Su Tissue these last 24 hours.

Welcome Szemerenyi... it's a great clip.

Has anyone (bar Chip) managed to get thru the whole of the USA/Mexico debut LP from the other week? Christ almighty, someone needs to start another thread for that shit

Szemerényi · « **Reply #67 on:** July 14, 2017, 12:59:33 am »

The teaser on youtube sounds like a Touch & Go record from the early eigthies mixed with doom metal. Is it any good? The voice box sounds retarded, but not in a bad way.

Filler. · « **Reply #68 on:** July 14, 2017, 01:09:50 am »

Quote from: Szemerényi on July 14, 2017, 12:59:33 am

The teaser on youtube sounds like a Touch & Go record from the early eigthies mixed with doom metal. Is it any good? The voice box sounds retarded, but not in a bad way.

I've just poured a whiskey. I'm going in. Back in 30 minutes. This is for you Naby Keita.

Szemerényi · « **Reply #69 on:** July 14, 2017, 01:16:03 am »

Just cranked up Godheadsilo's 'Skyward in Triumph', cause it encapsulates my optimism for this transfer window.

Filler. · « **Reply #70 on:** July 14, 2017, 01:41:02 am »

Fucking hell, I hadn't got thru the whole of song 3 some days ago on first listen, but surely there'd be some relief at song 4 no? No? No. Ah.. at last... song 5? Oooh dear this is nice. Buttholes would sound like Bucks Fizz tomorrow. I may need them to soothe me.

Oh Fuck... the LA moment. Abso-fucking-lutely. Next track a bit Bauhausy there. Leaves you wanting more, when at times, you wished it could end.

Chip Evans · « **Reply #71 on:** July 14, 2017, 08:42:57 am »

Quote from: Szemerényi on July 14, 2017, 12:59:33 am

The teaser on youtube sounds like a Touch & Go record from the early eigthies mixed with doom metal. Is it any good?

That's pretty much exactly what it is. I loved it - but it's tapped in the head. Like a load of semi-sentient degenerate robots decided trying to make an early 90's Melvins album. And that's not even doing it justice. Bananas.

Szemerényi · « **Reply #72 on:** July 15, 2017, 12:33:55 am »

Used to have an obsession with the music of Guinea, so i made a playlist in honor of Naby. Balla et ses Balladins is one of the best bands ever. West african polyrythms, a latin horn section and strangely psychedelic guitar effects:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLyTq_4h1kI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLyTq_4h1kI</a>

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Link won't work

Filler. · « **Reply #73 on:** July 15, 2017, 11:22:48 pm »

Quote from: Szemerényi on July 15, 2017, 12:33:55 am

Used to have an obsession with the music of Guinea, so i made a playlist in honor of Naby. Balla et ses Balladins is one of the best bands ever. West african polyrythms, a latin horn section and strangely psychedelic guitar effects:

Link won't work

It does now. Will listen to these later. After the lean. Any 70's fuzzed out guitar shenanigans from Guinea at all?

Szemerényi · « **Reply #74 on:** July 16, 2017, 02:30:23 pm »

Sadly not. I think the political climate in the seventies was too restrictive for that kind of music. Guinea was a communist state, and the state had huge influence on the music scene. All recording studios and labels were owned by the state, and many of the recordings were commisioned to celebrate the heritage of the guinean people and the glory of their president, Ahmed Sékou Touré. That's why the music is less rock influenced than what we find in other african countries. There's great passages of electric guitar on many guinean records though, but the sound is more west african. Listen to this clip with Bembeya Jazz. It's a live recording made with cheap equipment, so the sound suffers a bit. Especially the horn section. I'm a fucking meathead. None of my links works

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It's not rock, but it has a rock feel like an extended guitar solo that twists and coils. It often sounds like the musicians play lines independently of each other, but somehow they still manage to be in sync. The rhythmic base is insanely tight.
On the flipside we can thank the communist government for many of the best west african records. It created the hugely influental Syliphone label as a propaganda tool and the most popular bands of the era were nationalized too like Balla et ses Balladins. Incidentially more records were released in Guinea from the late fifties up to the eighties than in many other countries, because the government invested in recording facilities and instruments. Communism isn't all bad

That's why the collapse of the communist regime in the eighties is seen as the end of the golden era in guinean music. Many artists couldn't afford to play anymore without the fundings. As much as i enjoy a hard rocking record, the conservatism of the guinean music scene had it's benefits. The westernization of music, that took place in many countries from the sixties on, eradicated local genres from the map before they were properly documented, and made music more homogenous.

McrRed · « **Reply #75 on:** July 16, 2017, 04:53:37 pm »

Quote from: Szemerényi on July 16, 2017, 02:30:23 pm

Sadly not. I think the political climate in the seventies was too restrictive for that kind of music. Guinea was a communist state, and the state had huge influence on the music scene. All recording studios and labels were owned by the state, and many of the recordings were commisioned to celebrate the heritage of the guinean people and the glory of their president Ahmed Sékou Touré. That's why the music is less rock influenced than what we find in other african countries. There's great passages of electric guitar on many guinean records though, but the sound is more west african. Listen to this clip with Bembeya Jazz. It's a live recording made with cheap equipment, so the sound suffers a bit. Especially the horn section. I'm a fucking meathead. None of my links works

It's not rock, but it has a rock feel like an extended guitar solo that twists and coils. It often sounds like the musicians play lines independently of each other, but somehow they still manage to be in sync. The rhythmic base is insanely tight.
On the flipside we can thank the communist government for many of the best west african records. It created the hugely influental Syliphone label as a propaganda tool and the most popular bands of the era were nationalized too like Balla et ses Balladins. incidentially more records were released in Guinea from the late fifties up to the eighties than in many other countries, because the government invested in recording facilities and instruments. Communism isn't all bad That's why the collapse of the communist regime in the eighties is seen as the end of the golden era in guinean music. Many artists couldn't afford to play anymore without the fundings. As much as i enjoy a hard rocking record, the conservatism of the guinean music scene had it's benefits. The westernisation of music. that took place in many countries from the sixties on, eradicated local genres from the map before they were properly documented, and made music more homogenous.

Brilliant post mate. One of the best I've seen on here in ages!

Haemoglobin · « **Reply #76 on:** July 17, 2017, 11:50:21 am »

Despite being conceived as a rather daft mocking goof (well not quite despite, but not because of it either), I honestly believe - and am quite intrigued to find - that this is a legitimately strong song, one that totally works in an unironic, completely sincere, melancholic, very human way:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/uWd6XgBVIcg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/uWd6XgBVIcg</a>

Curiously, it instantly brought to mind David Pajo's wonderfully genuine & haunting, hushed cover of the Misfits' Last Caress from many years ago now (still the best cover I've ever heard of that great nihilist anthem)...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/RTFNGK9_On8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/RTFNGK9_On8</a>

... and made me think about how the ongoing popular trend of twee whispered acoustic covers of old hits for John Lewis adverts and the like has sort of superficially marred what can be a very subversive and thought-provoking take on the right song, done the right way. Those commercially-approved ones bring little to nothing to the table, but both of the above examples manage to wring new deep meaning from those words; they become very personal, very intimate insights into someone's emotional worldview and state of mind, and have a real empathic force about them.

Szemerényi · « **Reply #77 on:** July 17, 2017, 04:19:32 pm »

There's a new Raymond Scott compilation out! Can't wait to hear this.

Filler. · « **Reply #78 on:** July 17, 2017, 11:06:49 pm »

I will have to watch that Alex Jones one again... what's the story there? Released 2 days ago... who is Aled Jones?

Haemoglobin · « **Reply #79 on:** July 17, 2017, 11:46:42 pm »

Quote from: Filler. on July 17, 2017, 11:06:49 pm

I will have to watch that Alex Jones one again... what's the story there? Released 2 days ago... who is Aled Jones?

Alex Jones is only related to Aled Jones in the sense that he might be his representative in some poor bastard's particularly feverish paranoid dystopian nightmare or bad acid trip. He's essentially the American equivalent of David Icke, only in a near-constant patriot conspiracy-spiralling 'prepper' roid-rage, and with a far broader (TV-level) audience, probably partly thanks to his much louder and coarser voice. He's more famous than he should be, but he is possibly a fitting icon for the times we find ourselves in.

It's a dark, grim internet rabbit-hole to explore if you're game.