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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #40 on: September 1, 2015, 03:40:03 am »
This the first Cocaine Cowboy's docu, well worth watching.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #41 on: September 1, 2015, 03:44:36 am »
One criticism for the show is the elevated role of some random American guys have in this show. The narrator, the DEA agent, is sometimes too cocky and gets away with it. It's a classic case of showing the American superiority, and had it not been him, large masses in the US would think it's Hispanic only show for Hispanic audiences.

So this is a necessary evil to sell the show to a larger group of people. Very similar to that one white guy in Asia thing Netflix did with Marco Polo. If I am honest, that is leaving a bit of a bad taste. Very understandable, yet, unnecessary. In the 21st century, the audience is sophisticated enough to watch a good show without such bullshit.

Marco Polo was even worse in many ways. Europe was a much less developed place back then, compared to Asia, and the idea that some guy comes and teaches the ruler of whole of Asia the life, and plays such important role in many events is a gross exaggeration.

This is my only beef with Narcos. Pena's character seems very real, the other guy, Murphy's character, in turn, just isn't on the same level.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #42 on: September 1, 2015, 04:08:57 am »
I hope they spin it out. Tell the next part and final end of Escobar, with the next season. Then move it in later seasons to tell Griselda Blanco's story. It doesn't have to just be about Escobar.

There is a massive amount of story to be told, Escobar wasn't the only one at it, loads of connections and aspects. They could make a decent fictional film/series just adapting the first Cocaine Cowboys itself.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #43 on: September 1, 2015, 07:07:31 am »
Thought all characters were immense.

Will there be another series?
theyre up to around the last 18 months of his life so can't imagine more than one more season based on Escobar, would be good to have series 3 onwards based on the Cali cartel, hardly anything is done in English on them and their story is just as interesting

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #44 on: September 1, 2015, 09:13:45 am »
One criticism for the show is the elevated role of some random American guys have in this show. The narrator, the DEA agent, is sometimes too cocky and gets away with it. It's a classic case of showing the American superiority, and had it not been him, large masses in the US would think it's Hispanic only show for Hispanic audiences.

So this is a necessary evil to sell the show to a larger group of people. Very similar to that one white guy in Asia thing Netflix did with Marco Polo. If I am honest, that is leaving a bit of a bad taste. Very understandable, yet, unnecessary. In the 21st century, the audience is sophisticated enough to watch a good show without such bullshit.

Marco Polo was even worse in many ways. Europe was a much less developed place back then, compared to Asia, and the idea that some guy comes and teaches the ruler of whole of Asia the life, and plays such important role in many events is a gross exaggeration.

This is my only beef with Narcos. Pena's character seems very real, the other guy, Murphy's character, in turn, just isn't on the same level.

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Netflix recently dropped a whole host of out-dated titles and have said they are focusing more heavily on exclusive content and combined with the fact that they have ambitious plans to launch in various markets, we are watching what could be the first of many non-American centric shows that start to cater to demographics world-wide.

Personally, I can't wait.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #45 on: September 1, 2015, 09:34:55 am »
Doing a couple of episodes a night this week... loving it so far!

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #46 on: September 1, 2015, 10:29:43 am »
Doing a couple of episodes a night this week... loving it so far!

Me too

Eps 3 and 4 tonight hopefully

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #47 on: September 1, 2015, 11:13:44 am »
Spoiler of a character in Episode 4:
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There's a film depiction of Barry Seal in production, Mena. Tom Cruise is playing him:
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #48 on: September 1, 2015, 02:59:39 pm »
I am loving it. Obviously, I don't know how accurate the history is in this show, but watching with a complete zero prior knowledge, the show is very entertaining.

Another winner from Netflix.

Great show, though not 100% factually correct.  Still, it's well done.  Wagner Moura is a great actor, loved him in Elite Squad 1&2

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #49 on: September 2, 2015, 12:01:36 pm »
Eps 3 and 4 very interesting as opposed to Brutal.

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The whole story in these episodes of Pablito getting into politics and ultimately falling out of politics was fascinating and how the Minister of Justice had the balls to stand up to him and his kind.  Obviously paying with is life.

 I did wonder in the first episode when the narrator mentioned how the mugshot of him during his first arrest years earlier would come back to bite him in the ass.

The scale of his operations and the amount of palms he was greasing to keep it ticking over is fucking staggering.

Loved the line by the DEA guy  "Can anyone keep a secret in Colombia?"
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #50 on: September 2, 2015, 02:09:52 pm »
Spoiler of a character in Episode 4:
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There's a film depiction of Barry Seal in production, Mena. Tom Cruise is playing him:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3532216/?ref_=nv_sr_4
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #51 on: September 2, 2015, 02:14:54 pm »
Episode 3, I liked this is line

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"I'm not going to be good, I'm going to be great"

Escobar bypassing morality
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #52 on: September 2, 2015, 02:37:38 pm »



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The DEA can go f themselves.
Loved the show, one of the first of hopefully many not tainted with American jingoism
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Finished the show. Fking fantastic all round. They've gone so fast though and maybe Season 2 will shift the focus onto the Cali cartel?
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #53 on: September 2, 2015, 03:36:28 pm »
I think this is great. Didnt really know much about Escobar before watching, but I love the leads portrayal of him form the few clips I've watched on youtube. Almost plays him a bit dopey.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #54 on: September 3, 2015, 12:02:42 am »
Major Episode 6 spoiler!!!

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Gacha  AKA El Mexicano is dead meat. :)

Loved the bit where Javier Peña is in the helicopter that hovers above Gacha, looking down on El Mexicano and waits for the order.  He turns to the Police marksman alongside him and says "Give him lead"

Just read online what really happened.  Gacha actually pulled the pin on a grenade right in front of his own face once he saw his son getting killed in the shootout at the ranch.  They should have done that in this i reckon and keep it true to actually what went on.  Think it would have made quite a good scene too.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #55 on: September 3, 2015, 12:45:28 am »
Plata o Plomo?
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #56 on: September 3, 2015, 08:18:48 am »
Plata o Plomo?

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #57 on: September 3, 2015, 08:49:55 am »
Up to the last episode, and loving it!

After watching the clusterfuck that was True Detective season 2, it's so refreshing watching something with clear, succinct storytelling, in which I don't have to google the 'whats what' after every episode.
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« Reply #58 on: September 3, 2015, 09:41:12 am »
Finished episode 10 last night, thats season 1.  From what I know about Pablo etc surely there is more to come?

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #59 on: September 3, 2015, 05:37:42 pm »
2 episodes in and loving it.

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« Reply #60 on: September 3, 2015, 05:40:58 pm »
Just downloaded it. Mates saying it is pretty good.
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« Reply #61 on: September 3, 2015, 05:45:11 pm »
Renewed for Season 2 ;D
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #62 on: September 3, 2015, 07:06:10 pm »
Binged watched this. Surprisingly good stuff.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #63 on: September 3, 2015, 07:10:46 pm »
  Had to google it first as my Spanish is a bit rusty


Which version are you watching mate? Watch the version which was originally created for launch in Latin America. The seamless transitions between Spanish and English make the show so much more authentic.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #64 on: September 3, 2015, 11:20:10 pm »
Renewed for Season 2 ;D
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« Reply #65 on: September 4, 2015, 10:04:39 am »
Which version are you watching mate? Watch the version which was originally created for launch in Latin America. The seamless transitions between Spanish and English make the show so much more authentic.

Not sure mate. How will I know which version?

This has been a really fine series.  Love the grittiness of it and although Agent Murphy's character isn't the strongest I think the narration from him has been brilliant and does a great job of explaining things (especially the Politics behind he whole situation and Pablo's thought processes and motives) to those of us who didn't really know anything about what went on during the Escobar years.

I feel the same way about this show as i did while watching Gommorah. Cant wait to watch the next episode basically :)

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #66 on: September 4, 2015, 07:42:20 pm »
Loving this. Not a topic I'm massively familiar with aside from the general story. Seen five episodes.

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« Reply #67 on: September 6, 2015, 08:32:21 pm »
Yeah, thought it was bloody brilliant. Theres also a docu added on Netflix called 'Sins of my Father' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1523980/ Plan on watching it later

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #68 on: September 6, 2015, 09:09:44 pm »
Ive made the mistake of watching the first one and now want to watch the next, my type of series. Just too much backlog on the sky planner to get through 1st.

Netflix are really on fire though with these exclusive series, the Idris Elba one looks a belter too and the women in prison one had its moments

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« Reply #69 on: September 6, 2015, 09:29:23 pm »
Are these eps available on torrents anywhere?

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« Reply #70 on: September 6, 2015, 09:50:13 pm »
Shush have put Narcos and Mr Robot on the site today.

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« Reply #71 on: September 7, 2015, 05:19:25 am »
Done. Absoluty fascinating.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #72 on: September 7, 2015, 08:25:28 pm »
Narcos all ten episodes done now, phew what a ride. Most interestingly there was next to no cocaine use in it from the Columbian side, don't get high on your own f ing enormous supply.

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« Reply #73 on: September 7, 2015, 10:20:08 pm »
Binged the lot, over the weekend. I like very much. Next half of his story should be quite good to.
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« Reply #74 on: September 7, 2015, 10:27:29 pm »
Yeah, thought it was bloody brilliant. Theres also a docu added on Netflix called 'Sins of my Father' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1523980/ Plan on watching it later
This was quite good. Watch it if you've just finished Narcos.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #75 on: September 7, 2015, 11:13:41 pm »
Narcos all ten episodes done now, phew what a ride. Most interestingly there was next to no cocaine use in it from the Columbian side, don't get high on your own f ing enormous supply.
I don't know why they didn't show it, but that's not true, they were all off their tits on it. Its maybe one of the things which contributed to Escobar being so unpredictable.
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« Reply #76 on: September 8, 2015, 10:17:29 am »
Watched 9 and 10 last night.  Wow what a ride. One of the best factual dramas I have ever watched. Riveting stuff.

Eps 9 and 10 spoiler below and possible spoilers for season 2.

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Not knowing the exact Escobar story beforehand but knowing he was eventually killed, I was totally expecting Pablo to die in a rein of bullets during the firefight at La Catedral prison.  Not to be though as he indeed escaped La Catedral. Go Pablo!! :)

The part where Pablo killed his two partners Moncada (with the pool queue) and Galeano was particularly brutal and showed just how much Pablito was losing it.  Anyone who has read the book etc,  Was this part made up for TV as I cant find any mention of these two guys on a google search?

I do know he was eventually killed in 1993 only 1 year after he escaped from La Catedral.  I dare not read too much into it as I don't want to spoil the second series for myself.

I assume the second series will focus on the year between his escape and death and the manhunt for Pablo by the authorities and Los Pepes group (Los Perseguidos por Pablo Escobar, "People Persecuted by Pablo Escobar")

Anyhow, season 2 needs only be half as good as series 1 and I will love it
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #77 on: September 8, 2015, 11:50:48 am »
Should have gotten Oscar Isaac to play Escobar, as the guy is almost in everything these days.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #78 on: September 8, 2015, 07:39:12 pm »
Watched 9 and 10 last night.  Wow what a ride. One of the best factual dramas I have ever watched. Riveting stuff.

Eps 9 and 10 spoiler below and possible spoilers for season 2.

Spoiler
Not knowing the exact Escobar story beforehand but knowing he was eventually killed, I was totally expecting Pablo to die in a rein of bullets during the firefight at La Catedral prison.  Not to be though as he indeed escaped La Catedral. Go Pablo!! :)

The part where Pablo killed his two partners Moncada (with the pool queue) and Galeano was particularly brutal and showed just how much Pablito was losing it.  Anyone who has read the book etc,  Was this part made up for TV as I cant find any mention of these two guys on a google search?

I do know he was eventually killed in 1993 only 1 year after he escaped from La Catedral.  I dare not read too much into it as I don't want to spoil the second series for myself.

I assume the second series will focus on the year between his escape and death and the manhunt for Pablo by the authorities and Los Pepes group (Los Perseguidos por Pablo Escobar, "People Persecuted by Pablo Escobar")

Anyhow, season 2 needs only be half as good as series 1 and I will love it
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Erm he wasn't a hero, no yay go Pablo, no, he was a vicious mass murdering c*nt.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #79 on: September 8, 2015, 07:50:50 pm »
Erm he wasn't a hero, no yay go Pablo, no, he was a vicious mass murdering c*nt.
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