I think yesterday was massive for Spurs, not so much United but, given they have challenged for the title in recent years and held on to players they had no right to on the wages they offer, they had to show progress/win something, they've gone backwards.
United and Chelsea are both beatable, especially as they were both 'home' games, an advantage no-one usually gets. I think they will struggle to attract new players now and also hold on to some key ones unless they now start throwing the cheque book round.
Given that Arsenal and Chelsea may well be back on song next year they could be looking at the end of an era (hopefully)
I'd argue we have shown progress, though it is worrying that we actually got knocked out of all three cup competitions after being ahead (this isn't a joke about "winning" at Juventus by the way
we actually were technically up 3-2 before they scored their two at Wembley). We led West Ham before they knocked us out from 2-0 to 2-3 and obviously led Man U 1-0 to 1-2. Not sure what results in that exactly, all of those individually you could argue don't mean much of anything but getting out-played on the day, West Ham obviously have that historic rivalry with us to will always be desperate to upset us any way they can, then Man U and Juventus are of course good teams, so sometimes you do just lose to those teams, but all three in one season? I'm not sure. Still, though, last year was Pochettino's first year coaching a team in the CL and we were abysmal, scraping third and then getting knocked out of the Europa. This year we dominated our Champions League group in a group many didn't give us a chance of making it out of, although Dortmund and especially Real Madrid were probably worse than expected. Juventus was again another tie that was split in opinion in terms of us going through, they hadn't conceded in 14 matches or something but we put two past them away to preserve the tie after going two down, then led the tie at home before getting knocked out. It's a disappointing result, but not a bad one by any means, especially considering this is our third time in the Champions League and the fact that, despite recent progress, we are still Spurs.
On the second bolded bit, I just find it a bit... hypocritical, basically, though that seems a bit too strong of a word. Not necessarily you personally, but I see a lot of Liverpool fans on here saying this, they hope Kane, Poch, Son, Eriksen leave etc. I was on this forum in 13/14 when you were really challenging for the title. This forum was littered with comments/complaints that fans of many different clubs were wishing City to win the title over you. All those posts were wondering why any "real" football fan would want City to win the league over Liverpool if their club couldn't win it, the whole buying the league vs working for it argument. I was on Liverpool's side, we had fucking Sherwood in charge at that point so I was nigh on ignoring the team at that point and I was willing you guys to win it, I really thought you would when you beat City 3-2, I cheered when Coutinho put that goal in. Not as much as any of you I'm certain, but I was gutted when you didn't quite make it, especially because that twat Mourinho tried to take the credit for stopping you.
Going even further back (to a time I'm sure most of you probably won't relate to me on) I cheered when QPR went ahead against City, Man U were 1 up on Sunderland so were heading to the title, consigning City to second place. I wasn't quite gutted, because my best friend is a Man U supporter
, but I was disappointed when City ended up winning that title as well.
Now, here we are, with Spurs. Plenty of our fans are dickheads, absolutely. You guys seem to forget that, in my rough estimation, about 60 percent of people around the world seem to be dickheads, logic stands that at least a few of those will be Spurs fans, some will even be Liverpool fans. But despite that, I'm glad you guys didn't go in to administration, despite how many times I might try have a normal conversation about football with a Liverpool fan only to have them scream "FIVE TIMES, FIVE TIMES" in my face. Football should be about football first. I'm not naive enough to think it isn't 99% about money these days, but it does seem odd to see fans of a club like yours essentially hoping for money to win out and a club like Spurs to fall off, despite things you may not like about us. I don't expect football fans to always be rational when it comes to their team of course and there is the argument that the worse we are, the easier it will be for you guys to be better, which is fine, but I don't like that. If I could make a deal for Spurs to NEVER win the league, but it meant clubs like City and Chelsea could never win or achieve anything either the way they have, I would make it.
For me, I love Spurs, but I love football more and I hate what it HAS turned in to at the top level, not what it "is" turning in to, we are already there. That's why I couldn't bring myself to will on a team like City or Chelsea or PSG over the likes of yourselves, or even Arsenal. I would take Arsenal winning the league over City any day.
Anyway, now that our season is practically over I may take a bit of a break from football until the season is actually over, so if I don't show back up until then, best of luck with number 6, I hope whoever goes through out of you guys and Roma win the whole thing. As you were.
