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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #160 on: December 3, 2014, 08:51:47 pm »
Well it cant be as bad as Star Wars 1, 2 & 3 can it?
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #161 on: December 4, 2014, 02:25:24 pm »
Well, it can't be as bad as getting kicked in the balls repeatedly, can it?
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #162 on: December 4, 2014, 02:31:51 pm »
Well, it can't be as bad as getting kicked in the balls repeatedly, can it?

That's too kinky for my liking.

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #163 on: December 4, 2014, 03:04:28 pm »
6 hours until the trailer - which'll appear here - http://www.terminatormovie.com/livingonesheet/#close

Hope it's not shite. Sad that isn't it? Hoping that a Terminator film actually isn't shite - never mind being as near the quality of the first 2 films...
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #164 on: December 4, 2014, 07:32:28 pm »
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #165 on: December 4, 2014, 07:47:01 pm »
Looks very iffy.

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #166 on: December 4, 2014, 07:50:11 pm »
That seems a bit cheap.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #167 on: December 4, 2014, 07:50:16 pm »
I just can't muster any enthusiasm for this primarily for the presence of Jai Courtney

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #168 on: December 4, 2014, 07:53:55 pm »
That looks rather naff!

Pandora's box has been opened one too many times methinks. Too much clutter and cross-chatter.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #169 on: December 4, 2014, 07:59:02 pm »
"So, erm...how do we make another Terminator film that doesn't suck as much balls as the previous two, because we're all out of ideas?!"  *silent hand raises in the room* " "Yes, you! Any original ideas?"

-"Erm, no, Sir; but how about we just rip off the exact same plot from 1 and 2, and even copy some of it scene-for-scene as a kind of nod to the originals that fans will get...?"

*awkward silence"

"Bravo, son, you've earned yourself a promotion. Meet me in 10 for oral sex!"

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #170 on: December 4, 2014, 08:07:32 pm »
Emilia Clarke is a really poor actress, she struck lucky with GoT and will make a career out of it it seems.


Arnie deserves better than this shit
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #171 on: December 4, 2014, 08:10:24 pm »
Arnie has doe fuck all in more than a decade.  He deserves squat.

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #172 on: December 4, 2014, 08:10:33 pm »
These recent sequels dont seem to link at all other than being about the same type of thing. Should really have done its as a future trilogy. Not three additional random movies

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #173 on: December 4, 2014, 08:17:46 pm »
They tried a future trilogy, but the first one failed so they gave up.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #174 on: December 4, 2014, 08:21:05 pm »
"So, erm...how do we make another Terminator film that doesn't suck as much balls as the previous two, because we're all out of ideas?!"  *silent hand raises in the room* " "Yes, you! Any original ideas?"

-"Erm, no, Sir; but how about we just rip off the exact same plot from 1 and 2, and even copy some of it scene-for-scene as a kind of nod to the originals that fans will get...?"

*awkward silence"

"Bravo, son, you've earned yourself a promotion. Meet me in 10 for oral sex!"

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #175 on: December 4, 2014, 08:54:27 pm »
Wow, that trailer is just what the fuck in a very very bad way....

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #176 on: December 4, 2014, 09:48:28 pm »
Turned it off at "come with me if you want to live."

Terminator 2 is still my favourite movie of all time. Sad to see them ruin the legacy.

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« Reply #177 on: December 4, 2014, 09:49:47 pm »
It wasn't even that terrible, and the cast was about ten times better than this.
It was terrible. For a film about the War of the Machines, all we got was a couple of busted T-800's and a few HK's, and those motorbike things. I mean, if that's what they were up against, then they could have won that war in a day. It's director, McG (who in the fuck calls themselves McG?) is a hack and hasn't a clue what he's doing. Why he was handed the reins of the Terminator name is beyond me.

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #178 on: December 4, 2014, 10:11:41 pm »
It looks more like a shitty reboot of Terminator 2 than a new film.

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #179 on: December 4, 2014, 10:45:44 pm »
Did you want LoTR-like hordes of T-800s?


Actually, yes. The first film described the scenario; the second film sort of illustrated it. It was supposed to be a war, but instead we got a film that looked as if it was cutting as many corners as possible, a bit like a TV show on a budget. The film everyone wanted was supposed to show the actual war between armies of T-800's and what humans remained. It would have been good to see that in the way the flashbacks were shown in the first film. Just imagine a film showing different factions of resistance in different parts of the world. Could have been good, but there you go.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #180 on: December 4, 2014, 10:50:43 pm »
It looks more like a shitty reboot of Terminator 2 than a new film.

Yeah that's what I thought too. But with bits of 1 thrown in for good measure. I don't actually give that much of a fuck though and am really looking forward to it. Schwarzenegger, lots of guns, lots of shit getting smashed up. Treefuckingmendous.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #181 on: December 4, 2014, 10:55:40 pm »
How many John Connors have there been now? Is it about 31?

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #182 on: December 4, 2014, 11:09:43 pm »
Its going to be shite, what was with that fucking music?? It was like Twilight meets shambling old man who used to be Aaarnuld.

Going for a U cut as well I bet.

I'll still watch it, be fucked if I am paying for it though.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #183 on: December 4, 2014, 11:48:12 pm »
Looks like a steaming pile of shit. Trailer was enough. Got bored after a minute.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #184 on: December 5, 2014, 12:15:12 am »
How many John Connors have there been now? Is it about 31?

Maybe I could play a fatter, ponytailed version of John.
theyd cast Edward Furlong.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #185 on: December 5, 2014, 01:36:01 pm »
Why is a Terminator going grey?
Because Aarnuld is an old man.

In terms of this film though, going by the trailer, Skynet has probably sent another terminator to an earlier point in Sarah Conner's timeline, leading to another 101 being sent back to protect her, which has then stayed with her and continued protecting her, aging over the years as it did so.

They should have ditched Aarnld, but they wont make it without him because of the money involved. Its perfectly reasonable to assume that there was more than one 101, having them all look like sausage fingers wouldn't make for very good infiltration units "hey he looks exactly like that German terminator we blew up yesterday, shoot him!"
They should have got the bloke who played the mountain in game of thrones in to play the new 101 and bin the Aarnuld model once and for all.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #186 on: December 5, 2014, 02:30:10 pm »
Robert Patrick cameo on the left here?

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #187 on: December 5, 2014, 02:37:50 pm »
Right. I didn't know that robots aged is all.

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« Reply #188 on: December 5, 2014, 02:39:19 pm »
second offical poster released as well.



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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #189 on: December 5, 2014, 02:44:22 pm »
Actually, isn't Matt Smith in this?  I don't remember seeing him in the trailer.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #190 on: December 5, 2014, 02:58:53 pm »
Actually, isn't Matt Smith in this?  I don't remember seeing him in the trailer.
He is in it, and was not in the trailer. The rumour about his character is very bad, though.
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« Reply #191 on: December 5, 2014, 03:25:44 pm »
He is in it, and was not in the trailer. The rumour about his character is very bad, though.

He was in those awful promo shots though wasn't he?
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« Reply #192 on: December 5, 2014, 03:31:24 pm »
He was in those awful promo shots though wasn't he?
Yeah. Looking like an overgrown schoolboy.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #193 on: December 5, 2014, 03:47:08 pm »
Cyborg. Combination organic and machine. The organic will age.
A cybernetic organism. Living tissue over a metal endoskeleton. ;)
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« Reply #194 on: December 5, 2014, 03:48:46 pm »
A cybernetic organism. Living tissue over a metal endoskeleton. ;)

I didn't want to copy the first 2 ;)

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« Reply #195 on: December 5, 2014, 04:46:46 pm »
Why keep Arnold if you're recasting everyone else?  May as well have gone the whole hog with it.

Personally, I would have got as much of the original cast back as possible and the done some funky parallel timeline storytelling with Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese all having survived and being the ages they are now but then they realise that things are even more fucked with them alive and they all have to sacrifice themselves in order to restore the T1 timeline.
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« Reply #196 on: December 5, 2014, 09:32:37 pm »
Because Aarnuld is an old man.

In terms of this film though, going by the trailer, Skynet has probably sent another terminator to an earlier point in Sarah Conner's timeline, leading to another 101 being sent back to protect her, which has then stayed with her and continued protecting her, aging over the years as it did so.

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They should have got the bloke who played the mountain in game of thrones in to play the new 101 and bin the Aarnuld model once and for all.
The fact that Arnold is in it suggests that they wrote the script entirely around the fact that he is now old, and so they had to come up with some bullshit story involving an alternate timeline, and that in itself will lead to the inevitable paradox's and plot holes in the story.

For example, going by the trailer, Reese doesn't know anything about a T-800 being sent back further in time from the first timeline in T1 to protect a very young Sarah Conner. So, by that logic, the future would have changed, and everyone in that future would know about that alternate timeline; therefore, the events of T1 and T2 would not have taken place like they did, so Reese would have already known all of this based on his future timeline. So, if the events of T1 and T2 did not take place, then why would they send Reese back to save her from the first T-800 from T1?

I don't even know why they feel the need to "re-do" everything by keeping the time travel element in there and setting it pre-war. We've had all that already. This is just Hollywood tying their best to reboot something again, and then coming up with another two needless sequels, because the war of the machines will still fucking happen. It's infuriating that they do this. We've already seen them do that recently with Spiderman and X-Men, and there's going to be another two sequels of those.
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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #197 on: December 5, 2014, 09:45:17 pm »
The fact that Arnold is in it suggests that they wrote the script entirely around the fact that he is now old, and so they had to come up with some bullshit story involving an alternate timeline, and that in itself will lead to the inevitable paradox's and plot holes in the story.

For example, going by the trailer, Reese doesn't know anything about a T-800 being sent back further in time from the first timeline in T1 to protect a very young Sarah Conner. So, by that logic, the future would have changed, and everyone in that future would know about that alternate timeline; therefore, the events of T1 and T2 would not have taken place like they did, so Reese would have already known all of this based on his future timeline. So, if the events of T1 and T2 did not take place, then why would they send Reese back to save her from the first T-800 from T1?

I don't even know why they feel the need to "re-do" everything by keeping the time travel element in there and setting it pre-war. We've had all that already. This is just Hollywood tying their best to reboot something again, and then coming up with another two fucking needless sequels, because the war of the machines will still fucking happen. It's infuriating that they do this. We've already seen them do that recently with Spiderman and X-Men, and there's going to be another two fucking sequels of those.
Exactly, its fucked from the start. The simplicity of the story is the greatest strength of the original. T2 is basically the same story, terminator sent to kill single target and one protector to stop him. Its got a bit of a spin, with the whole attempt to stop Skynet, but its basically the same.

Trouble is they are going to keep making these with Arnie as long as he is alive, no matter what state he is in. If his legs fall off they'll give the terminator wheels. The series wont ever get any better until the fucker drops off his perch and cant be in in them anymore.
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« Reply #198 on: December 6, 2014, 02:14:45 am »
All the deleted scenes from the original, and now 30 years old, Terminator movie (some interesting stuff in there - especially right at the end):-

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Re: Terminator 5. Arnie Returns!
« Reply #199 on: December 6, 2014, 06:02:05 pm »
Didn't know Lee Byung Hun was casted as the T 1000, wont be enough though to salvage this reboot.
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