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At last, after all the ifs and buts, it really is that simple.

If we beat Roma, we'll both have seven points but a better record against them (a draw and a win).  

(I was really concerned if Galatasaray had held on to win tonight, and our game finished goalless - Gala/Barca could have screwed us in Istanbul next week.  Now they can't).

The "Champions" League - at last it's as exciting as the UEFA Cup!!!

Having read our resident and thoroughly lovable Anorak, Anthony, and all his assurances about permutations, I now realise we have to win by 2 clear goals to make sure of second place, whatever the result of the other game, and any win will do if the other game does not end in a draw.

Cheers, Anthony, and sorry for jumping the gun!        

Not quite! If Barca & Gala draw then Barca will have 7 points as well! We will then be in a mini-league like Arsenal - and we'll all have 5 points! I believe Goal Difference then comes into play - Roma currently have +3, Barca have -1 and we have -2.

I make it that we will want to win by 2 or 3 clear goals *or* hope that either Barca & Gala win. In that event the winner of that game wins the group & we pip Roma on the basis of the aggregate win.



Somebody called?  ;D ;D ;D

If we beat Roma we qualify unless Barca & Gala also draw, in which case there are 3 teams on 7 points  


If two or more teams finish equal on points after all the group matches have been played, the following criteria are applied to determine the rankings:  

1) Higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question.

All Teams would have 5 points from the games

2) Superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question.

So far Roma have scored 4 & conceded 1 (+3)
Barcelona have scored 4 & conceded 5 (-1)
Liverpool have scored 1 & conceded 3 (-2)

Therefore if we win by *2* clear goals we finish above Barca

3) Higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question.

Barcelona have scored 3, Roma have scored 1 and we have scored none!

Therefore if we only win by *1* clear goal Barca & Roma would finish above us.

4) Superior goal difference from all group matches played.

It won't come to this but currently it's Roma +3, Barca -1 & Liverpool -2.    

5) Higher number of goals scored.

6) Coefficient points accumulated by the club in question, as well as its association, over the previous five seasons.


If we win by 2 clear goals we qualify
If we win by 1 clear goal we qualify unless Barca draw
If we draw we are out!    
If we lose we are out!    
(As just confirmed by ITV Sport!  ;D )

Eli_B (aka Badland Red):

I fully understood the requirements and the task in which the men in red have to do. That is win by a scoreline of 2-0 or more. Or a 1-0 win with Barca drawing against Gala  :but:

Roll on next tuesady at Anfield!!. It should be an absouletly electric atomsphere, as well as cracking contest, where both teams have to win to get to the last 8 of the Champions Cup!  8) :D


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