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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #400 on: June 21, 2020, 09:42:37 pm »
They also have an FA cup game on Sunday against Newcastle at St James’ Park which is between the Chelsea game and against us. We’ll have had a weeks rest after getting our eye in this week, they’ll have played twice.

I can hear Guardiola’s whining in his pre match press conference already.

Pep loves a whinge more than almost anyone. But I think playing Monday, Thursday, Sunday, Tuesday in the second week back after 3 months away is taking the piss. Granted they have the £1bn squad for it. But that’s a shitter of a fixture list...

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #401 on: June 21, 2020, 09:42:47 pm »
Erm, if we were to apply that same principle to every day life - we’d be living in an absolutely fucked society. So yes, I certainly care.

Well I dont. Like I said our keeper supports and voted for a facist apparently. But he is the best keeper in the world.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #402 on: June 21, 2020, 09:43:12 pm »
Half expecting us to win it without playing now. Beat Palace and City would need to win at Stamford Bridge to keep the "title race" alive.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #403 on: June 21, 2020, 09:43:32 pm »
Yes he very well could be but I dont know if he was signed to solve a particular weakness. Could just be an opportunistic signing.

He looks like a £7 million player to me. Doesn’t stand out at all, and personally I’m not sure what his role is or what he brings to the team. He could blossom into a good player for us and I hope he does, but at the moment I’m a bit meh with him.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #404 on: June 21, 2020, 09:43:40 pm »
He shouldn't have been on the bench then.

He was ready to come on.

And I'm happy he didn't. It will give him more motivation and against Palace he can concentrate on playing some football and not being kicked around the pitch.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #405 on: June 21, 2020, 09:44:26 pm »
Carra’s becoming a pain in the ass. You can take the boy out of Everton...

It’s one thing attempting to be as neutral as possible given his SKY role, but he always takes it beyond that.

Lovren wasn’t at the races - neither was Gini. I thought Matip was exceptional and I hope his injury is nothing serious. Minimi looks like it’s going to be a while before he’s up to speed. Naby was excellent - he Hendo and Mane were the only Liverpool players who looked match sharp, along with Matip.

Overall the break was more disadvantageous to us than them - because we rely far more on rhythm. All the changes didn’t help, but I understand that was tactical given the upcoming programme. The days of fielding the same 11 and just tweaking it are over given the circumstances.

We’ll win the title at some point, when is unimportant. Let’s just relax and see which players actually see it through over the next few weeks.

Lovren was bad and rightly targeted as soon as he came on, nothing wrong with what Carra said.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #406 on: June 21, 2020, 09:44:35 pm »
 :shite: Glad that one's out of the way is all I can say.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #407 on: June 21, 2020, 09:45:33 pm »
He looks like a £7 million player to me. Doesn’t stand out at all, and personally I’m not sure what his role is or what he brings to the team. He could blossom into a good player for us and I hope he does, but at the moment I’m a bit meh with him.

He's had his good moments, but you're right. At the moment he looks like a player that would be decent for a side in 9th place but not for one winning the league that has dropped 7 points all season so far. I just don't see where he fits.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #408 on: June 21, 2020, 09:48:46 pm »
He's had his good moments, but you're right. At the moment he looks like a player that would be decent for a side in 9th place but not for one winning the league that has dropped 7 points all season so far. I just don't see where he fits.

He doesn’t fit wide and is never going to be strong enough to replace Bobby. I can’t see him fitting in to the shape as we stand.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #409 on: June 21, 2020, 09:50:07 pm »
Fair play to Carlo, has them playing like a Haodgson wet dream. It's a point, 5 more needed maximum, hope we are a step better for Palace...
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #410 on: June 21, 2020, 09:50:37 pm »
He doesn’t fit wide and is never going to be strong enough to replace Bobby. I can’t see him fitting in to the shape as we stand.
I’d be cautious on the word ‘never’ when it comes to this club’s coaching and development under Klopp.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #411 on: June 21, 2020, 09:51:12 pm »
He looks like a £7 million player to me. Doesn’t stand out at all, and personally I’m not sure what his role is or what he brings to the team. He could blossom into a good player for us and I hope he does, but at the moment I’m a bit meh with him.

Doesn't look confident at all, like he doesn't believe he deserves to be here, as such he doesn't impose himself on games and he's got the cutting edge of a straw. Not quite Markovic or Downing in that sense, but hopefully Klopp can do something with him.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #412 on: June 21, 2020, 09:51:38 pm »
Lovers was bad and rightly targeted as soon as he came on, nothing wrong with what Carra said.

Said to my old man that he could cost us the game when he was getting ready to come on. Almost proved me right.

Taking a risk here as I got a 30 day ban last time I spoke about Lovren but he really does need to go when the window opens. He's not good enough and is now more of a hindrance than a help when he's on the pitch.

I appreciate that he's been a good servant for us but enough is enough.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #413 on: June 21, 2020, 09:51:42 pm »
A clear disappointment this weekend. We could be 20 points ahead with 8 games to go.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #414 on: June 21, 2020, 09:51:49 pm »
Minamino has played about the equivalent of five games....thats the guy people are writing off, right?
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #415 on: June 21, 2020, 09:51:57 pm »
I’d be cautious on the word ‘never’ when it comes to this club’s coaching and development under Klopp.

It would appear Minamino is on a hiding to nothing with some people, but happily Klopp will be more patient.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #416 on: June 21, 2020, 09:52:34 pm »
Minamino has played about the equivalent of five games....thats the guy people are writing off, right?

Say nothing of having to stop playing football half way through the season.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #417 on: June 21, 2020, 09:53:36 pm »
Minamino has played about the equivalent of five games....thats the guy people are writing off, right?

Keita played well, so they have to criticise someone else!
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #418 on: June 21, 2020, 09:53:48 pm »
Good point, we were more than understandably off rhythm

Alisson MOTM but special shout for Joel Matip, who was outstanding - hope he recovers fine.

Bogey side Palace next. Let's go
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #419 on: June 21, 2020, 09:53:52 pm »
Lovers was bad and rightly targeted as soon as he came on, nothing wrong with what Carra said.

Read my post - I’ve said that Lovren wasn’t at the races. That wasn’t the point.

My criticism of Carra is down to him always giving Everton undue credit - not just today and not just against us. It’s more than a trend and it’s fucking annoying. It’s as if living, as he does, in an Everton stronghold, he wants his cake and eat it.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #420 on: June 21, 2020, 09:54:02 pm »
Said to my old man that he could cost us the game when he was getting ready to come on. Almost proved me right.

Taking a risk here as I got a 30 day ban last time I spoke about Lovren but he really does need to go when the window opens. He's not good enough and is now more of a hindrance than a help when he's on the pitch.

I appreciate that he's been a good servant for us but enough is enough.

Was there an alternative though? Move Gomez to the middle and bring Neco Williams on out of position would have been a big call.

Thankfully we got away with it and it didn’t cost us too much. Hopefully Matip will be ok but fitness permitting I’d expect Robbo back on Wednesday, with Gomez back in the middle.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #421 on: June 21, 2020, 09:54:06 pm »
Doesn't look confident at all, like he doesn't believe he deserves to be here, as such he doesn't impose himself on games and he's no threat. Not quite Markovic or Downing in that sense, but hopefully Klopp can do something with him.

Good point that. Don’t know if he’s overawed with the surroundings and players he’s with but you’d think as Klopp has bought him and is managing him he has the faith in him. Could be one of those players that needs a goal to get him going and get his confidence up.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #422 on: June 21, 2020, 09:54:09 pm »
Good point, we were more than understandably off rhythm

Alisson MOTM but special shout for Joel Matip, who was outstanding - hope he recovers fine.

Bogey side Palace next. Let's go

Palace are such a bogey team that we’ve beaten them the last 5 times we’ve played them.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #423 on: June 21, 2020, 09:55:44 pm »
I’d be cautious on the word ‘never’ when it comes to this club’s coaching and development under Klopp.

I don’t doubt his tactical acumen or ability to improve and learn but physically I can’t see him playing where Bobby does. His physical attributes are underrated.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #424 on: June 21, 2020, 09:56:25 pm »
He looks like a £7 million player to me. Doesn’t stand out at all, and personally I’m not sure what his role is or what he brings to the team. He could blossom into a good player for us and I hope he does, but at the moment I’m a bit meh with him.
He isn’t that bad but confidence is absolutely important playing in this league. I remember Origi went through the same and then hit a good form under Klopp.

Hope Klopp and our players can help him to find it.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #425 on: June 21, 2020, 09:56:35 pm »
Lovers was bad and rightly targeted as soon as he came on, nothing wrong with what Carra said.

Matip is the best ball playing centre back at the club. You want him in the team against teams that park the bus.

Think Carragher was spot on when he called Lovren too emotional. That he tries to win ever challenge and ball, when sometimes it's best to play smart against a striker who is faster or stronger than you.
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #426 on: June 21, 2020, 09:56:39 pm »
And that's why he won't be here. He isn't anywhere near a top class CB and has been linked with a move away for at least two seasons now.

He was here when Klopp walked in the door and he is still here 5 years later when were arguably the best side in the world. Klopp would have well got shut if he is how you have described but Klopp has faith and belief in Lovren. He would get into any other Premiership side despite being everyones favourite whipping boy in the media and with dickheads on twitter and in our own fanbase. Klopp said after the Watford game "if people blame Dejan Lovren for that defeat i cant help them" and he was right. TAA and VVD stunk the joint out against Watford and Lovren as the low hanging fruit got the blame.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #427 on: June 21, 2020, 09:57:06 pm »
Good point that. Don’t know if he’s overawed with the surroundings and players he’s with but you’d think as Klopp has bought him and is managing him he has the faith in him. Could be one of those players that needs a goal to get him going and get his confidence up.

He's not had a full season here yet, we've also had a pandemic interrupted season when the lad is still trying to get used to being at a new club and people are writing him off before he's had a proper chance. 
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #428 on: June 21, 2020, 09:57:20 pm »
Thought the noise was awful. What chants did we have other than Liverpool, Liverpool

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #429 on: June 21, 2020, 09:58:45 pm »
Matip is the best ball playing centre back at the club. You want him in the team against teams that park the bus.

Think Carragher was spot on when he called Lovren too emotional. That he tries to win ever challenge and ball, when sometimes it's best to play smart against a striker who is faster or stronger than you.
And this is coming from Carragher ?

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #430 on: June 21, 2020, 09:59:40 pm »
They're not a bogey side, we beat them all the time.

Correct. We have won the last six at Selhurst Park and have won the last two against them at Anfield as well.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #431 on: June 21, 2020, 10:00:18 pm »
He looks like a £7 million player to me.
His market value significantly exceeded £7m at the time of purchase.

I understand he’s been underwhelming and I appreciate the impact of recency bias but there’s a tendency to be too quick to judge amongst fans. He’ll get his chance, he’ll get a run of starts. Judge once he’s had a fair crack.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #432 on: June 21, 2020, 10:00:19 pm »
Don’t want to derail the thread but the club seriously needs to have a word. It’s one thing liking Trump’s “silent majority” tweets but liking Breitbart anti-Semitic conspiracy theories is a step beyond that, even for him.

This.

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« Reply #433 on: June 21, 2020, 10:01:16 pm »
Felt strange without boo's at Boodison
You mean you didn't hear them ? Clearly audible after every foul......even those they won ! Typical shite atmosphere for a shite team.

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« Reply #434 on: June 21, 2020, 10:02:23 pm »
Thought the noise was awful. What chants did we have other than Liverpool, Liverpool
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« Reply #435 on: June 21, 2020, 10:02:24 pm »
This.

He seems to hide behind the cutsy bromance videos with Salah but when you see what he likes it's either he doesn't realise people see those likes or he is really trying to influence his followers. I'm pretty sure it's the former but both tell you about who he is as a person and that's not good

I cannot believe this is actually a thing. Who cares? The guy is a footballer.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #436 on: June 21, 2020, 10:04:03 pm »
His market value significantly exceeded £7m at the time of purchase.

I understand he’s been underwhelming and I appreciate the impact of recency bias but there’s a tendency to be too quick to judge amongst fans. He’ll get his chance, he’ll get a run of starts. Judge once he’s had a fair crack.

No issue with how he looks. But why the fuck have we bought a square peg?
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #437 on: June 21, 2020, 10:04:37 pm »
He's not had a full season here yet, we've also had a pandemic interrupted season when the lad is still trying to get used to being at a new club and people are writing him off before he's had a proper chance.

I’m not writing him off and I haven’t said he’s crap and will never make it here. He could just need to get a goal to get his confidence up. But at the moment he looks like he’s struggling and not sure what his role is when he plays.

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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #438 on: June 21, 2020, 10:04:39 pm »
No issue with how he looks. But why the fuck have we bought a square peg?

Maybe we don't know what we're doing?
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Re: PL: Everton 0 vs 0 Liverpool
« Reply #439 on: June 21, 2020, 10:06:16 pm »
He's not had a full season here yet, we've also had a pandemic interrupted season when the lad is still trying to get used to being at a new club and people are writing him off before he's had a proper chance. 

I find that laughable to be honest, that people are so quick to judge, especially when a lot of what is being said was probably being said about Robbo too, and maybe even Ox. He played about 6 games for god sake give the lad a chance. That's not an unreasonable ask