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The FA Cup. The most famous cup competition in the world, a cup which attracts millions and possibly billions of viewers around the world for each round. It’s the cup that enables non-league clubs the chance to play some of league’s football’s bigger clubs. Since the turn of the millennium many people, including pundits, have argued that the cup has lost some of it’s romance – especially with Manchester United deciding to play in a competition in Brazil in 2000 instead of the FA Cup and many Premier League sides putting out weakened sides against lower league opposition.

Liverpool’s opponents in the FA Cup 4th round will argue against that. Their route to Anfield started in the second qualifying round, where they played Bognor Regis Town – winning 2-1. Next to fall were Fleet Town, falling once again 2-1. Then it was on the first round proper, where York City were conquered by a goal to nil. In the second and third rounds Notts Count (1-0) and Swansea (1-1 and 4-2 in the replay) were vanquished. Taking a look on the team’s fixture list on the clubs official website, it reads “26 Jan (Sat) FAC Liverpool (4R) 15:00 Still can’t believe it.” Havant and Waterlooville play in the Blue Square south Division, the league below the conference and are the lowest ranked team left in the FA Cup proper, and this weekend they’ll all be plying their trade at the home of 5 times European Champions and 18 times League Champions Liverpool in front of a sold out Anfield. Like it says on their fixtures, can anybody believe it?

Currently they are sandwiched between Braintree Town and Thurrock, lying 12th in the Blue Square south Division, and I’ll admit that I know diddly squat about them, apart from what I’ve seen on the highlights from their previous exploits in the cup.




Liverpool FC v Havant and Waterlooville
26/1/08
Anfield
Capacity: 45,276
Referee: Phil Dowd
3.00 kickoff

To learn a little bit about them, surf over to http://www.havantandwaterlooville.net/club/history.shtm where you’ll find the club's history page. For a little scan through though, this is Havant and Waterlooville's honours:

First Team Honours (1998-present)
Conference South Playoff Semi-Finalists 2006/07
Winners of the Russell Cotes Cup 2003/04
Winners of the Southern Combined Counties Floodlit Cup 1999/00
Winners of the Southern League, Southern Division 1998/99
Runners up Hampshire Senior Cup 2001/02
Runners up Hampshire Senior Cup 2000/01

FA Cup 1st Rnd vs Southport 2000/01
FA Cup 1st Rnd vs Dagenham & Redbridge 2002/03
FA Cup 1st Rnd vs Millwall 2006/07
FA Cup 4th Rnd vs Liverpool 2007/08
FA Trophy Semi Final vs Tamworth 2002/03

Reserve Team Honours (2000-2005)
Winners of the Suburban League Shield 2004/05
Runners up Suburban League Southern Division 2004/05
Runners up Capital Reserve League 2000/01

Youth Team Honours (2002-2005)
Winners of the Hampshire Youth League Division One 2002/03, 2003/04, 2004/05
Winners of the Hampshire Youth League Cup 2002/03, 2003/04
Winners of the Hampshire Youth Cup 2002/03
Winners of the Hampshire Youth Floodlit Cup 2002/03

So to the questions, where I ventured onto the Hawk’s website, www.havantandwaterlooville.net, and emailed their program editor Simon Lynch, and also got a response from board member ketchup. Also for you Spyin Kopites there’s an extra special section at the end. I’ll keep you guessing ;)

1 - I've lined out a little history on the Hawk's from the clubs website, however not many people will know much about Havant and Waterlooville, maybe you could tell us a little bit in your own words?

Simon - Well, this is now our tenth season as a merged club, and what a way to celebrate! I started watching the Hawks in their second season, when we were in the Southern League Premier Division, since then it's been a bit of a roller-coaster in terms of managerial changes (I think we've had five different managerial teams), league placings (anything from mid table obscurity to third place in the Southern League, and a scraping into the Conference South), and cup performances. Prior to this season we'd only got as far as the first round of the FA Cup, and our best cup showing would have been our semi-final appearance in the FA Trophy. In fact the only trophy we have won is the Southern Combined Counties Floodlit Cup!!

Ketchup - Havant is famous for having made the parchment that the magna carta was printed on , and Waterlooville got its name from where Wellington's triumphant army rested on their way back from defeating Napoleon apparently

2 - You currently lie in mid table of the Blue Square South division (The league below the conference for us Reds who don't know), what were your league ambitions at the start of the season?

Simon - We we're everybody's favourites to win the league at the start of the season, but our away form as put us way off the pace. At home we're a match for anyone - just ask Swansea!

Ketchup - Our league ambitions for this season were to win the league!!! After losing out in the play offs last season, with, on paper, a far stronger squad, hopes were high, but for whatever reasons the side didn't really gel in the early season, resulting in the manager Ian Baird claiming that he couldn't take the club any further and knobbing off to our local rivals Eastleigh for an alleged huge pay packet. Then the F A cup started and we haven't really had a chance to look at the league properly since then!!!!

3 - Alternatively, what were your FA Cup ambitions? Did you ever envisage progressing this far to face Liverpool?

Simon - We play this little game at the start of every FA Cup run, when we imagine who we'd get in each round of the competition. Usually someone like Sweary Les will come up with some pie in the sky thing like, 'We'll play York in the First Round, Notts County in the Second Round, Swansea in the Third Round and then Liverpool in the Fourth Round. No-one ever takes any notice of him....hang on, maybe we should listen to him more often!!!

Ketchup - Our FA cup ambitions were pretty much as they are every year, get to the first round proper and draw the biggest league one side away!!!! So obviously when came out away to York City only a few of us who fancied a weekend away on the pop were genuinly excited !!!!

4 - I'm sure the club has earned a fair amount of money from this cup run, what will it mean to the club? Will it change the ambitions for future season? Possibly a push towards gaining promotion to the conference?

Simon - This means everything to the club. The money is earmarked for covering our only open side of the ground, investing in a community scheme and hopefully gaining promotion. However, this fixture isn't all about money - it's about prestige. We're playing arguably the greatest club team in the world - we could have drawn clubs with higher attendances, but I don't think we'd have got the same respect as we already have from the Liverpool fans.

5 - What is the capacity of Westleigh Park? What do you think the players will be feeling playing in front of 40,000 plus at Anfield?

Simon - Our capacity is about 10% of Anfield, and you could probably fit it inside the Kop end twice over! However it's our home and I love the place. For our players it'll be a dream come true for many of them, especially Rocky Baptiste, a lifelong Liverpool fan.

Ketchup - The capacity of West Leigh Park is 4800.

6 - A simple question really, but are you looking forward to visiting Anfield? What are you looking forward to the most?

Simon - And a very simpe answer - yes! It's been 19 years since my last visit to Anfield - I've got an unbeaten record there, after a 0-0 draw when I was supporting Coventry City in the 1988-89 season. There are many things to look forward to - the Shankly Gates, seeing a full Kop End, listening to You'll Never Walk Alone. For a fan of a non-league team it doesn't get much better than this.

Ketchup - What are we looking forward to at Anfield, basically the final whistle with our dignity still intact!!! Also YNWA, seeing how our make shift defence deals with Torres, Crouch, Kuyt, Carraghar!!!! And showing you all that some fans know how to behave properly

7 - Who are your most important players? Tell us a bit about them.

Simon - It's probably the spine of the team. Keeper Kevin Scriven is, if I'm honest, too good for us and our level of football, Neil Sharp is one of the most consistent centre backs in the non-league and prior to his knee injury was playing some superb football, our new captain Jamie Collins is an inspiration to everyone, and the evergreen Rocky Baptiste up front has formed a good partnership with Richard Pacquette over the last 3 seasons. Also a special mention to little Alfie Potter on the left wing, on loan from Peterborough - watch out for him, he'll be a star one day.

Ketchup - Our important players? obviously Rocky Baptiste and Richard Pacquette up front, hopefully Neil Sharpe in the middle of our defence will be fit and, for me, our most influential player is skipper and midfield general Jamie Collins, imho, we’re a far better team when he's in the side. Also watch out for Kevin Scriven, known to the Hawks faithful as Scrivs the wonder goalie!!!

8 - Have you got any young, up and coming players who may make that push to league football within the youth ranks?

Simon - Unfortunately we don't have a youth team as such, but we have an Academy set up by Stu Page and Ollie Jones, which is in it's first season and shows tremendous promise. Of the youngsters in and around the first team, we don't have many teenagers, but there's a young lad called Michael McEnery who got injured at the start of the season, and before that was tormenting defenders in pre-season. He could go far.

Ketchup - up and coming players, little Alfie Potter on the wing on loan from Peterborough but again in my opinion will play on numerous occasions at Anfield in the league.

9 - What line-up do you think you'll put out against us?

Simon - We're very much a 4-4-2 side with no frills. If you were to push me for a starting eleven it would look something like this:
Kevin Scriven, Jay Smith, Justin Gregory, Charlie Oatway, Phil Warner, Neil Sharp, Mo Harkin, Jamie Collins, Richard Pacquette, Rocky Baptiste, Alfie Potter.
Subs: Tony Taggart, Tom Taylor, Shaun Wilkinson, Jamie Slabber, Tom Jordan

Ketchup - poss line up
1.Scriven
2.Smith
3.Gregory
4.Wilkinson
5.Sharpe/Jordan
6.Warner
7.Harkin
8.Collins
9.Pacquette
10.Baptiste
11.Potter

subs .Sharpe/Jordan, Taggart, Oatway, Slabber, Taylor(g/k)

10 - Are there any chants/songs that us Reds should listen out for?

Simon - The obvious one is our anthem, Under The Moon Of Love, the Showaddywaddy song. We picked that up from when we played some team in our first merged season, and the linesman had a Showaddywaddy-esque quiff. The song went up in honour of him and so it stuck!
 
Other than that we do have a wide repertoire of songs, which isn't bad for a team with such a long name!

Ketchup - obviously "under the moon of love", if we get to 15 mins at 0-0 you might a burst of 0-0 to the Havantville, most other chants based around the usual suspect using Havantville.

11 - And finally, care to predict a score?


Simon - Blimey! I don't know. As long as it's not a cricket score I'll be happy. Mind you, we all said that at Swansea, so dare we think the impossible...? As Rocky said in the last round 'They won't like it at our place' - maybe, just maybe, you'll find out!!

Ketchup - predict a score, um, i dunno 6-1? And Torres will get your consolation!!!!!!


Thank you very much to Simon and Ketchup for their set of answers, I hope you enjoy your day at Anfield very much, and that the Hawks put up a good fight in front of the Kop in what will surely be a day to remember. Is the romance of the cup dead? I don’t think so, not whilst it’s still capable of throwing out draws like this!

Now, for your surprise. Usually for Spyin Kop we only have access to the fans, however with Havant and Waterlooville being some way away from the Premier League and RAWK member “A Day 2 Remember” knowing him, I’ve managed to get a couple of questions across to the Hawks goalkeeper Kevin Scrivens. So, here they are as well!

1 - At the start of qualifying for the FA Cup what were the clubs ambitions? Did you even anticipate reaching as far as you have?


Scrivens - The main ambition for the club was to reach the first round proper and play against league opposition. Obviously when we got drawn away to Notts County people expected us not to win that game. After we caused an upset to win the game the feeling amongst us all was amazing. The when we saw the Swansea draw in the 3rd round, no one would have expected us to get a result there, and when we took them back to our place and won, it was the biggest achievement for our club

2 - When you were 3-1 up against Swansea, with their player waiting to take the penalty, what were your thoughts and emotions?

Scrivens - I was thinking on where he was going to place the penalty and thinking that if I got to it we would have that two goal advantage going into half time

3 - Was the possibility of such a big game to come in the 4th round enough to spur you on during the Swansea game? How did you feel when you saw that Liverpool were drawn out of the hat as possible next round opponents?

Scrivens
- Yeah, just the chance to play against Liverpool we knew would be a great motivator. To hear that we had the chance to go to Liverpool was amazing, to have a chance to go to a club of that stature was a once in a lifetime chance and a dream come true for me.

4 - What were your emotions when it was obvious you were going to progress to face Liverpool, and after the final whistle?

Scrivens
- Pure joy! When the whistle went everything went mad and we knew that we were going to face Liverpool and go to Anfield and play in front of such great fans!

5 - Have you noticed any difference to how the team is being supported locally? Apart from the national press being interested in the club?

Scrivens
- Yes, after the Swansea game there have been a lot more fans then we usually get. I am happy to see that people in the area are supporting the local club and glad to see that many of them will be coming to Liverpool for the day

6 - Did you ever dream that one day you could be playing at a stadium like Anfield, or against a club like Liverpool? What are you looking forward to the most about the game?

Scrivens
- Never in a million years do you think that you get this opportunity to come to a club like this and a ground that is so special to English and World football. I can't wait to come out and have a chance to play in front of “The Kop”, this will be a dream come true. Walking out at Anfield will be breathtaking, when we are in the tunnel and see “This is Anfield” above the walkway and finally see everyone and hear the noise; I know it will be a day that we cherish for the rest of our lives. Liverpool are a legendary club with legendary fans and have the most famous stand in football…need I say more

7 - Finally, care to predict a score?

Scrivens
- Obviously I would like to keep a clean sheet, so I can get my bonus! But realistically I would like to try and keep the score down to a bare minimum...I think I will sit on the fence for this one, I just hope everyone enjoys the game

Once again thanks very much to Kevin for his answers and I hope that he enjoys his day out, don’t forget to clap the Kop when you’re going into the Kop goal Kev! Remember that any abuse that you get is pure envy, as you are fulfilling every Red’s lifelong dream!

© Welshred 2007
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top read :thumbup
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This must be a Spyin Kop first - as in having an opposition player contribute to the answers.

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Nice read that mate, cheers  :)

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Good read that, and a first for Spyin Kop having player answers too. :thumbup

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Ketchup - predict a score, um, i dunno 6-1? And Torres will get your consolation!!!!!!

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Superb read. Nice one Welshred.

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Great job Welshred, nice suprise at the end there!! What next for Spyin' Kop? "Kaka looks ahead to Moscow encounter with reds" ?

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3 - Alternatively, what were your FA Cup ambitions? Did you ever envisage progressing this far to face Liverpool?

Simon - We play this little game at the start of every FA Cup run, when we imagine who we'd get in each round of the competition. Usually someone like Sweary Les will come up with some pie in the sky thing like, 'We'll play York in the First Round, Notts County in the Second Round, Swansea in the Third Round and then Liverpool in the Fourth Round. No-one ever takes any notice of him....hang on, maybe we should listen to him more often!!!

Ketchup - Our FA cup ambitions were pretty much as they are every year, get to the first round proper and draw the biggest league one side away!!!! So obviously when came out away to York City only a few of us who fancied a weekend away on the pop were genuinly excited !!!!

Is it just me who wants to go for a pint with 'Sweary Les' ?

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Brilliant job Welshred, I've been waiting for it this week and it didn't disappoint.
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Excellent Spyin Kop. Thanks to Simon, Ketchup and Kevin for their answers and of course to Welshred for putting the article together.

In the midst of all this fallout from the owner issue this game has been a breath of fresh air. Havant have been the story of the FA Cup so far and it's brilliant that drawing us can both help their club practically and give their team and fans a day to remember.

Hope its a great game.
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Excellent, I really did enjoy reading that Chris well done :thumbup They are well excited and up for it. 
 
Really nice to have the goalie of the opposition to answer some questions too  ;D
Is it just me who wants to go for a pint with 'Sweary Les' ?
Mind you they could be pleasantly surprised with the score the way things are  :-X :butt ( Hope not like )

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Keeper Kevin Scriven is, if I'm honest, too good for us and our level of football,

Also watch out for Kevin Scriven, known to the Hawks faithful as Scrivs the wonder goalie!!!

Obviously I would like to keep a clean sheet, so I can get my bonus! But realistically I would like to try and keep the score down to a bare minimum

Nice one Welshred, you've made Dirk cry ::)
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great read, I think the goalie deserves a good reception   :D

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I just talked to Scrivens's brother (who i coach with) and he is flying back from Kansas City to Liverpool to watch the game this weekend. He's absolutely bouncing. It is his brother who got me the answers to Welshred's questions.

I reminded him one last time to clap back to the Kop, i think he is a little worried about it so take it easy on him boys and girls.
5th times a charm

I want to read about a Welshman reclaiming our Kop and over engineering songs we have nicked. Priorities guys

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I just talked to Scrivens's brother (who i coach with) and he is flying back from Kansas City to Liverpool to watch the game this weekend. He's absolutely bouncing. It is his brother who got me the answers to Welshred's questions.

I reminded him one last time to clap back to the Kop, i think he is a little worried about it so take it easy on him boys and girls.

get him to run out with a red and white scarf and he'll be alright  ;D

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get him to run out with a red and white scarf and he'll be alright  ;D

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Another excellent read. Teams like Havant & Waterlooville getting this far, and then drawing Liverpool at Anfield is what the FA Cup is all about. Hope their fans and players have an absolutely fantastic day, except of course for the result.

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If we are up a few in the second half and if Scrivo pulls off a decent save how about a rendition of "Englands Number One"

Half respect and half scouse wit at the lack of keepers we seem to have in the Country.
5th times a charm

I want to read about a Welshman reclaiming our Kop and over engineering songs we have nicked. Priorities guys

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As Armin says, this is the sort of thing that comes around and reminds us what is magical about sport in general and this beautiful game, particularly when events conspire to try and prove otherwise.

Excellent stuff Welshred and more power to H&W.

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Really good read that, lets hope their keeper remembers to clap :)

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Great read, looking forward to playing H&W. Hopefully will be a good game.

get him to run out with a red and white scarf and he'll be alright  ;D

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Simon - And a very simpe answer - yes! It's been 19 years since my last visit to Anfield - I've got an unbeaten record there, after a 0-0 draw when I was supporting Coventry City in the 1988-89 season.

I think I was at that game - I think it was David Burrows' debut! Nice read, cheers

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Brilliant read.


Scrivens[/b] - Never in a million years do you think that you get this opportunity to come to a club like this and a ground that is so special to English and World football. I can't wait to come out and have a chance to play in front of “The Kop”, this will be a dream come true. Walking out at Anfield will be breathtaking, when we are in the tunnel and see “This is Anfield” above the walkway and finally see everyone and hear the noise; I know it will be a day that we cherish for the rest of our lives. Liverpool are a legendary club with legendary fans and have the most famous stand in football…need I say more


Got goosebumps reading that bit. Really looking forward to this game, hope the place is bouncing for it.

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Great read, I'm really looking forward to this one.
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Excellent work, Chris. Good stuff.

I reminded him one last time to clap back to the Kop, i think he is a little worried about it so take it easy on him boys and girls.

Was gonna ask if anyone had pointed that out to him ;)

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Top read Welsh Red.
After all the shite of the last few weeks, I'm really looking forward to this; i'm looking forward to this like i used to games when i was a kid, and that doesn't happen much these days.

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Great read, hope Havant & Waterlooville give us a good game, but not too good ;).

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Excellent Spyin Kop. Thanks to Simon, Ketchup and Kevin for their answers and of course to Welshred for putting the article together.

In the midst of all this fallout from the owner issue this game has been a breath of fresh air. Havant have been the story of the FA Cup so far and it's brilliant that drawing us can both help their club practically and give their team and fans a day to remember.

Hope its a great game.
Got a lump in my throat thinking about this game.

Here's to a great football game and a great day out for both set of fans.
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And guess what I found on Google...

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Well I said it over on the H&W forum and I will say it here (well actually I will copy and paste it cos I'm lazy like that)

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OK I had tears in my eyes reading most of that! 

Its quite emotional to think I'm going to Anfield, the home of a team that I have supported for as long as I can remember yet they are playing against the team that represent the town that I have lived in for the last 25 years! Its a win win situation but I hope the reds will forgive me for wearing the colours of blue and yellow on the day! Just to be stood in Anfield to look straight ahead at the Kop, full to capacity with the whole stadium ringing out with You'll Never Walk Alone.... someone pinch me!!!

This made me LOL....

Ketchup - predict a score, um, i dunno 6-1? And Torres will get your consolation!!!!!!

I never thought I would get the opportunity to go to Anfield, well not in this lifetime so thanks to the boys of H&W for giving little old me and my son the opportunity!

My son is beyond excited, he is praying he will get a signature from Gerrard, however trying to explain to him that Anfield isn't "quite the same" as WLP & Fratton Park where you are virtually sitting on top of the players is proving a little tricky LOL!

Anyway I want to say a big thank you to all the Liverpool supporters who have visited our little forum, to wish us all the luck in the world... what other teams fans would do that eh???

See you all tomorrow..... 1 more sleep wooohooo!!!!!!  :wave
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Thank you for the welcome!  :)

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Yeah good read and nice one for getting questions across to an opposition player. Hope the keeper is looking forward to his busy day tommorrow. ;)

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Great read that. Good job Welshred!

Should be a good game tomorrow, looking forward to it

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Hi fellas

As a slight addendum to this preview, I thought you might like to know about my website.

I'm a H&W fan, and I originally started writing the blog about neutral games I was attending whilst resident first in Leeds and then, yes, Liverpool.

However, now that I'm in London and a bit nearer my beloved Hawks, I've been able to attend a great deal more of our games again and have been writing about our cup run. Only the 3rd qualifying round was missed.

It's all a bit verbose and rose-tinted but thought it may be of some interest to you.

It can be found at http://hobotread.blogspot.com.

The top post is currently the Swansea replay and the links to all the others can be found at the bottom of it.

Very much looking forward to coming back to the city tomorrow and hopefully it'll be a great FA Cup day for all.

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Great read that.

Its class that there geniunly excited about the prospect of playing at Anfield and the respect they have showed Liverpool is amazing hope they have a decent day out tommorow but I still hope the reds put on a little show.
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Been really lookin forward to this one thanks Welshred an excellent read.  :)
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