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Depressing Times
« on: October 12, 2017, 04:59:14 pm »
We live in depressing times. When protest songs from years gone by start striking a chord, it is sobering.

Exhibit one:
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The higher you build your barriers
The taller I become
The further you take my rights away
The faster I will run
You can deny me, you can decide
To turn your face away
No matter 'cause there's

Something inside so strong
I know that I can make it
Though you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone, oh no
There's something inside so strong
Oh, something inside so strong

The more you refuse to hear my voice (ooh-weh ooh-weh ooh-weh ooh-weh)
The louder I will sing
You hide behind walls of Jericho (ooh-weh ooh-weh ooh-weh ooh-weh)
Your lies will come tumbling
Deny my place in time, you squander wealth that's mine
My light will shine so brightly it will blind you
Because there's

Something inside so strong, strong
I know that I can make it
Though you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone, oh no
There's something inside so strong
Oh, something inside so strong

Brothers and sisters
When they insist we're just not good enough
Well we know better
Just look him in his eyes and say
We're gonna do it anyway
We're gonna do it anyway

There's something inside so strong
And I know that I can make it
Though you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone, oh no
There's something inside so strong, oh
Something inside so strong

Brothers and sisters
When they insist we're just not good enough
Well we know better
Just look him in his eyes and say
We're gonna do it anyway
We're gonna do it anyway
We're gonna do it anyway
We're gonna do it anyway
Because there's

Something inside so strong, (something inside so strong)
I know that I can make it
Though you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone, oh no, oh no
There's something inside so strong
Something inside so strong (oh oh yeah)
I know that I can make it
Though you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone, oh no, oh no
There's something inside so strong


With the tiny handed dipshit around, even the Vietnam songs start to resonate.

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 05:01:56 pm »
Good protest songs never lose their relevance.
My cup, it runneth over, I'll never get my fill

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 05:06:53 pm »
Good protest songs never lose their relevance.

Depressing isn't it?

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 05:21:53 pm »
Depressing isn't it?

It is what it is,fact is whilst intelligent we're part of an incredibly fucking stupid species.For me one massive upside of the two Cowboys and Hodgson is that I no longer let forces outside of my immediate circle alter my mood in that way,anger is so much easier to cope with than depression.

As for Drumpf it is looking more and more likely that the 25th will come into play.If that doesn't materialise then it will only take 1 good patriot.
My cup, it runneth over, I'll never get my fill

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 06:04:36 pm »
It is what it is,fact is whilst intelligent we're part of an incredibly fucking stupid species.For me one massive upside of the two Cowboys and Hodgson is that I no longer let forces outside of my immediate circle alter my mood in that way,anger is so much easier to cope with than depression.

As for Drumpf it is looking more and more likely that the 25th will come into play.If that doesn't materialise then it will only take 1 good patriot.

Not all of us.

But you must remember, tribalism is part of our evolutionary history, it's part of who we are as a species.  Of course, there are many ways you can be part of a "tribe", supporting a football team for example.

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2017, 06:55:59 pm »
It gets to the point where everyday your overriding thought is "Why isn't someone doing something about this?!"

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #6 on: November 9, 2017, 07:04:18 pm »
Trump, making you nostalgic for the 60s.

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The eastern world, it is explodin',
Violence flarin', bullets loadin',
You're old enough to kill but not for votin',
You don't believe in war, but what's that gun you're totin',
And even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
But you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
And can't you feel the fears I'm feeling today?
If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave,
Take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
Handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
And marches alone can't bring integration,
When human respect is disintegratin',
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
But when your return, it's the same old place,
The poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace,
You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
Hate your next door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace,
And you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend,
You don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

No, no, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #7 on: November 9, 2017, 11:52:33 pm »
Guess you listened to Phil Scraton’s DID with Kirsty Young then?
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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2017, 12:34:15 am »
This popped up randomly on my playlist recently and stopped me dead in my tracks.  Nearly 50 years on and still as valid as ever it was.

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Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they're telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be
If you want to be a hero well just follow me
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2017, 12:36:50 am »
Guess you listened to Phil Scraton’s DID with Kirsty Young then?

I didn't - it's on my Spotify and it popped up whilst driving by Bedford.

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2017, 12:05:52 pm »
You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
get older.
And in the end you'll pack up and fly down south,
Hide your head in the sand,
Just another sad old man,
All alone and dying of cancer.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
around.
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
Dragged down by the stone.

I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused.
Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used.
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this
maze?

Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyone's expendable and no-one has a real friend.
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And everything's done under the sun,
And you believe at heart, everyone's a killer.



Still relevant 40 years on.
A Tory, a worker and an immigrant are sat round a table. There's a plate of 10 biscuits in the middle. The Tory takes 9 then turns to the worker and says "that immigrant is trying to steal your biscuit"

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2017, 12:22:26 pm »
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind
You open up their hearts
And here's what you'll find
A few frozen pizzas
Some ice cubes with hair
A broken Popsicle
You don't want to go there

Some humans ain't human
Though they walk like we do
They live and they breathe
Just to turn the old screw
They screw you when you're sleeping
They try to screw you blind
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind

You might go to church
And sit down in a pew
Those humans who ain't human
Could be sittin' right next to you
They talk about your family
They talk about your clothes
When they don't know their own ass
From their own elbows

Jealousy and stupidity
Don't equal harmony
Jealousy and stupidity
Don't equal harmony

[Repeat: x4]
Mm Mm

Have you ever noticed
When you're feeling really good
There's always a pigeon
That'll come shit on your hood

Or you're feeling your freedom
And the world's off your back
Some cowboy from Texas
Starts his own war in Iraq

Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind
They lie through their teeth
With their head up their behind
You open up their hearts
And here's what you'll find
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind

[Repeat: x4]
Mm Mm
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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 01:07:37 pm »
Stop watching the news
Because the news contrives to frighten you
To make you feel small and alone
To make you feel that your mind isn't your own
They have life in them, they have humour, they're arrogant, they're cocky and they're proud. And that's what I want my team to be.

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 06:59:06 pm »
I forget how to put video's up, if someone could help me out please   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDDJeM5R4PM

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2017, 11:09:21 pm »
Tony Benn was right, every generation has to fight the same battles over and over again.

Billy Bragg, 1984

I kept the faith and I kept voting
Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand
For theirs is a land with a wall around it
And mine is a faith in my fellow man
Theirs is a land of hope and glory
Mine is the green field and the factory floor
Theirs are the skies all dark with bombers
And mine is the peace we knew
Between the wars

Call up the craftsmen
Bring me the draftsmen
Build me a path from cradle to grave
And I'll give my consent
To any government
That does not deny a man a living wage

The Mission, 1990

The land of the free,
Home of the brave,
The heartland of pioneers,
The heritage of flesh and blood,
And along come the winds that blow through the land
With a price to pay for the working man
Money talks and changes hands
And money reaps the harvest money demands
The Grapes of Wrath

Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, 1992

Water pistol man
Full of ammunition
Squirtin' at fires on a worldwide mission
Did you ever think to stop
And squirt the flowers in your own back yard?

Basically all about using money in the wrong way, abusing power and bullying rather than helping fellow human beings. Maybe it'll change one day but I don't expect to be alive to see it.
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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2017, 11:37:25 pm »
I forget how to put video's up, if someone could help me out please   :)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/aDDJeM5R4PM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/aDDJeM5R4PM</a>

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Re: Depressing Times
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 07:38:16 am »
I didn't - it's on my Spotify and it popped up whilst driving by Bedford.

Now THAT is depressing. Could have been worse I suppose.you could have been driving to Bedford 😁
"All the lads have been talking about is walking out in front of the Kop, with 40,000 singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone'," Collins told BBC Radio Solent. "All the money in the world couldn't buy that feeling," he added.