Topic: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez

[jillcwhomever]

Send all the oxygen tanks and Horse placenta to Gomez.

The last thing we need to do is do what City are doing, forcing players back early. With Joe's other injuries he needs to come back at the right time for him we cannot afford to take chances with him. We will be fine.

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

We aren't playing City every week. The defence has been absolutely brilliant all season - with Lovren when he has been needed. Poor last night but we aren't facing that level of threat each week, or conceding that much possession.

He shouldn't be rushed back. We need to give them time to recover and heal properly.

[Scottymuser]

Best thing is now, we can afford to wait until end of Jan for his return - got Brighton away, Palace at home, before a slight harder (but still should easily win it) Leics home on the 30th - Palace could be tricky IF they were at their place, but their not.  After that 19th Feb vs Bayern is the next game we properly need him back for, especially with VVD suspension.

[him_15]

The earlier he is back the better our defence is.

[Mighty_Red]

So he could possibly start his first game in the 4th round if we were to get through. Let's just hope he gets fit properly, we don't want him breaking down, or pulling muscles rushing things.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Once he's back, please, fucking please, don't play him EVER as a fullback.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Once he's back, please, fucking please, don't play him EVER as a fullback.

You might as well make peace with it now, it will happen at some point.

[David in Edinburgh]

When he's back, hopefully sooner rather than later, I just don't want to see him at right back.

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

When he's back, hopefully sooner rather than later, I just don't want to see him at right back.

Please see the post directly above yours.

[exiledintheUSA]

When he's back, hopefully sooner rather than later, I just imagine that Jürgen Klopp continues to know more about players and their ability to play in a certain position than most on here.

[Shaved Crossbar]

When he's back, hopefully sooner rather than later, I just imagine that Jürgen Klopp continues to know more about players and their ability to play in a certain position than most on here.

People complaining that bombing down the wing is what caused his injury, should be banned 

[FlashGordon]

People complaining that bombing down the wing is what caused his injury, should be banned

Yeah because he never has to run playing centre back and comes in to contact with no opposition players 

[vagabond]

Can't wait for this guy to start strutting his stuff around Anfield again. A bit of an obvious point, but Joe will be key in our run in.

[harleydanger]

sell him, we've got Hoever now

[Frank Becton]

The 10 day or so break we have coming up will help him get back to full fitness, need him back badly.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Yeah because he never has to run playing centre back and comes in to contact with no opposition players 

if my memory serves me right, he never picked an injury playing CB. That's why all the reactions, and also because some of us believe that his partnership with VVD is the best in the world. But when he's playing fullback, he's average, and leaves an average partner for VVD.

[FlashGordon]

if my memory serves me right, he never picked an injury playing CB. That's why all the reactions, and also because some of us believe that his partnership with VVD is the best in the world. But when he's playing fullback, he's average, and leaves an average partner for VVD.

It doesn't matter what position you play in, you can get injured. It's as simple as that.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

It doesn't matter what position you play in, you can get injured. It's as simple as that.

 

[FlashGordon]

What is there not to get about that? He could get injured playing anywhere on the pitch?

[Keita Success]

What is there not to get about that? He could get injured playing anywhere on the pitch?

It is pretty obvious 

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

What is there not to get about that? He could get injured playing anywhere on the pitch?

Players playing in their not so natural position, tend to pick an injury more often than playing in their natural position. Which is understandable. I never said he can't get injured playing as CB, he can get injured walking down the street with his dog, that's wasn't my point. Actually, my point wasn't only about injuries, but also about the fact that his partnership with VVD is so good, probably in top3 best CB partnership in the world.

[Cheesehead]

Can’t wait for this lad to be back. Brilliant footballer.

[Welshred]

Players playing in their not so natural position, tend to pick an injury more often than playing in their natural position.

Do they? Have you got facts to back this up because I'm not sure that's true.

[killer-heels]

Players playing in their not so natural position, tend to pick an injury more often than playing in their natural position. Which is understandable. I never said he can't get injured playing as CB, he can get injured walking down the street with his dog, that's wasn't my point. Actually, my point wasn't only about injuries, but also about the fact that his partnership with VVD is so good, probably in top3 best CB partnership in the world.

He fractured his leg following a challenge from a player. Are we saying there is no chance Trent fractures his leg in the exact same challenge?

[Funky_Gibbons]

Players playing in their not so natural position, tend to pick an injury more often than playing in their natural position.

How do you determine his 'natural position'?

At Charlton Gomez played 13 games at RB, 1 game at LB and 9 games at centre-back. Here he's played 35 games at RB, 7 games at LB and 18 games at CB.

He's always been used at centre-back and full-back throughout his career.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

How do you determine his 'natural position'?

At Charlton Gomez played 13 games at RB, 1 game at LB and 9 games at centre-back. Here he's played 35 games at RB, 7 games at LB and 18 games at CB.

He's always been used at centre-back and full-back throughout his career.

Obviously when you are in your natural position, you're aware what's going on around you, instinctively, so you know more about the nature of movement and challenges there. Hence he stated that he prefers to play CB. He feels comfortable there, because he knows these things there.

[Djimi Smicer34]

What evidence is there of a player being more likely to get injured at right-back as opposed to centre-back?

[Funky_Gibbons]

Obviously when you are in your natural position, you're aware what's going on around you, instinctively, so you know more about the nature of movement and challenges there. Hence he stated that he prefers to play CB. He feels comfortable there, because he knows these things there.

That's more like his preferred position rather than his 'natural position'.

He has vast experience of playing full-back so knows the potion better than he does centre-back. From what I remember one of his biggest injuries came when training with England U21's and two have come from impacts, something that could happen anywhere on the pitch. 

[El Lobo]

What evidence is there of a player being more likely to get injured at right-back as opposed to centre-back?

There isn’t any

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

That's more like his preferred position rather than his 'natural position'.

He has vast experience of playing full-back so knows the potion better than he does centre-back. From what I remember one of his biggest injuries came when training with England U21's and two have come from impacts, something that could happen anywhere on the pitch.

Are you saying that he's better as fullback, and that he should play there?

[redmark]

Are you saying that he's better as fullback, and that he should play there?

Nice try!

[Funky_Gibbons]

Are you saying that he's better as fullback, and that he should play there?

No, I've not said anything remotely implying that, not sure where you've got that from.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

No, I've not said anything remotely implying that, not sure where you've got that from.

You said that CB isn't his natural position but his preferred position. So i thought you were saying that fullback is his natural position.

[FlashGordon]

Do they? Have you got facts to back this up because I'm not sure that's true.

Was about to ask the same question. Can't see how it would be the case.

[Boaty McBoatface]

Pfft. You can prove anything with facts.

[Ratboy3G]

Looking forward to seeing Jomez back in action, although I'm sure it won't be for a while and can see him getting a few run outs for the u23s.

[reddebs]

Looking forward to seeing Jomez back in action, although I'm sure it won't be for a while and can see him getting a few run outs for the u23s.

U23s don't play again till 8th April so I think they're arranging behind closed doors friendlies.  Shame really cos they never reflect a proper games intensity but hopefully that helps in not over exerting himself.

[Yosser0_0]

5th December since he last played so basically it will work out that he'll have been out for four months, a long lay off. He's pretty much missed half of the games this season, let's hope he gets some luck.

[SpartanTree. No deccies or lights.]

Back in full training after the international break so hopefully gets some game time from the middle of April:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-set-major-change-after-15991174

[Jookie]

Great to have Gomez back in the squad.

However, my 1st thought is that he won't walk back into the team at centre back. That feels a bit strange to say with how he played pre-injury. As good as he was I think it'd be a big call to drop Matip now.

I remember back in 1995/96 season, Jamie Redknapp being injured for a while. Redknapp was a promising young midfielder who looked like he could be a mainstay for years in our midfield. In his absence, Michael Thomas stepped into midfield. At this point, Thomas was a squad option at best. However, he performed brilliantly alongside John Barnes in midfield. We went on a long unbeaten run. Redknapp got fit around March after we'd been on a long unbeaten run. Evans bombed out Thomas for Redknapp and it all went pear shaped. Culminating in the 1-0 FA Cup Final defeat by United.

I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that if it ain't broken don't try and fix it. Even if we all know Gomez is a better player than Matip. Stick with Matip at centre back and use Gomez as rotational option at right back. Once it gets to pre-season then re-establish Gomez as 1st choice partner for VvD.