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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #760 on: July 24, 2021, 12:37:55 am »
Thats true but that means we are relying on Matip’s fitness otherwise we could start the season with Fabinho back there.
I think the end of last season made clear that's not going to happen. Williams would start ahead of him there if we've managed to shift Phillips by then. Seems unnecessary to panic about when we've still got 5 CBs apart from Gomez and Van Dijk right now

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #761 on: July 24, 2021, 12:47:51 am »
Considering when the Brazilian trio get back, it's hugely unlikely that they would start [Becker being the exception] but the likes of Fabinho probably no chance of starting the first game hypothetically.

Yeah fair point, it'll be interesting to see what we start with then, I doubt the like of Phillips will be kept around for the season just for the first few games. Part of me wonders if we'll just keep van Dijk away from starting games right up until the season starts to give him the max training time, then start him in the first game.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #762 on: July 24, 2021, 02:13:38 am »
Liverpool fans send Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain message to Jurgen Klopp after Mainz friendly

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oxlade-chamberlain-liverpool-mainz-news-21132676

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #763 on: July 24, 2021, 02:19:27 am »
Liverpool fans send Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain message to Jurgen Klopp after Mainz friendly

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oxlade-chamberlain-liverpool-mainz-news-21132676

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #764 on: July 24, 2021, 05:40:47 am »
Minamino's been shit, we need to get rid. Origi too. Gini's been anonymous so far he can go too. Salah's not scored think we're seeing the beginning of the end now. If we can barely beat Mainz I think we'll be lucky to stay up this year.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #765 on: July 24, 2021, 08:01:50 am »
Jesus fucking Christ we've got some weird fans these days  :butt

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #766 on: July 24, 2021, 09:19:59 am »
Yeah fair point, it'll be interesting to see what we start with then, I doubt the like of Phillips will be kept around for the season just for the first few games. Part of me wonders if we'll just keep van Dijk away from starting games right up until the season starts to give him the max training time, then start him in the first game.

Provided Konate and Matip are fit (no laughing at the back), you’d imagine those two start. Virgil and Gomez should hopefully be fine for the bench by then if not ready to start, and then there’s Rhys. I think Phillips goes with a good offer and he’s earned himself a Premier League career

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #767 on: July 24, 2021, 09:21:39 am »
Provided Konate and Matip are fit (no laughing at the back), you’d imagine those two start. Virgil and Gomez should hopefully be fine for the bench by then if not ready to start, and then there’s Rhys. I think Phillips goes with a good offer and he’s earned himself a Premier League career
There's possibly Ben "Ben' Davies, though the current interruption to his training with the team won't help his chances of playing.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #768 on: July 24, 2021, 10:21:10 am »
Provided Konate and Matip are fit (no laughing at the back), you’d imagine those two start. Virgil and Gomez should hopefully be fine for the bench by then if not ready to start, and then there’s Rhys. I think Phillips goes with a good offer and he’s earned himself a Premier League career
Will be interesting to see what the club do with the 5th centre back. Imagine they will let Davies go if they get a good offer but will they let Williams (on loan) and Phillips also go? That would leave Koumetio.
Maybe they will let Phillips go late in the window once Van Dijk and Gomez have proved their fitness.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #769 on: July 24, 2021, 10:52:35 am »
Will be interesting to see what the club do with the 5th centre back. Imagine they will let Davies go if they get a good offer but will they let Williams (on loan) and Phillips also go? That would leave Koumetio.
Maybe they will let Phillips go late in the window once Van Dijk and Gomez have proved their fitness.
I would much rather we kept Phillips over Rhys Williams. I’d be happy happy starting Phillips in the domestic cups and keeping Matip as fresh as he can be.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #770 on: July 24, 2021, 12:17:38 pm »
The Echo is embarrassing.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #771 on: July 24, 2021, 03:47:20 pm »
Jesus fucking Christ we've got some weird fans these days  :butt

I think Kirk was attempting irony.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #772 on: July 24, 2021, 04:02:56 pm »
I think Kirk was attempting irony.

It's hard to tell these days but it wasn't necessarily that post that prompted mine.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #773 on: July 24, 2021, 06:31:36 pm »
When do the Brazilian lads (and I guess Hendo too) get back?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #774 on: July 24, 2021, 06:49:09 pm »
Liverpool fans send Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain message to Jurgen Klopp after Mainz friendly

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oxlade-chamberlain-liverpool-mainz-news-21132676

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Seems like journalism nowadays is just posting a bunch of non-entities tweets.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #775 on: July 24, 2021, 09:11:19 pm »
The Echo is embarrassing.
They're just doing what they all do now, which is go on social media for "expert fan opinion". Pandering to the FUT gold pack opening crowd.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #776 on: July 24, 2021, 09:13:13 pm »
Minamino's been shit, we need to get rid. Origi too. Gini's been anonymous so far he can go too. Salah's not scored think we're seeing the beginning of the end now. If we can barely beat Mainz I think we'll be lucky to stay up this year.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #777 on: July 24, 2021, 10:29:32 pm »
You jest, but I saw some of these exact comments on the stream I was watching yesterday.

The chat box on those illegal steams brings out some of the most uneducated low IQ folks in the world. It’s quite mesmerizing. Explains why people won’t get vaccinated as well if you think about it.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #778 on: July 24, 2021, 10:33:04 pm »
It's Manc run now

It's Reach isn't it, aren't they London based? You can tell a Reach website a mile off, all look the same and have the same shit clickbait stories. If you can get past the pop-ups, I've given up.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #779 on: July 25, 2021, 12:42:04 am »
I blame fan media.  Any old chump with a voice is trumpeted to the skies now and the value of their job title is overblown.

Even if they have fuck all of any interest to say, or worse they're just skilled at hyperbole.
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Nah this is a more general decay of journalism. Goes beyond football or sport. Pretty common for articles to be churned out on the basis of 3 tweets.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #780 on: July 25, 2021, 12:42:14 am »
Seems like journalism nowadays is just posting a bunch of non-entities tweets.
I blame fan media.  Any old chump with a voice is trumpeted to the skies now and the value of their job title is overblown.

No need for any actual insight or sources or ability to put an interesting spin on things.  Just get yourself "seen" and you can steal a living indefinitely.

The Echo is the fucking epicentre of that shit.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #781 on: July 25, 2021, 12:44:04 am »
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Nah this is a more general decay of journalism. Goes beyond football or sport. Pretty common for articles to be churned out on the basis of 3 tweets.
You're right.  Those things are entirely mutually exclusive.  Silly me.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #782 on: July 25, 2021, 03:10:14 am »
Liverpool fans send Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain message to Jurgen Klopp after Mainz friendly

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oxlade-chamberlain-liverpool-mainz-news-21132676

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I just read Gini’s interview in the Guardian - about idiots on social media blaming him for our bad form last season, when the reality was he was busting a gut to make himself available to play - week in week out.

You see it on here of course too.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #783 on: July 25, 2021, 05:08:12 am »
I just read Gini’s interview in the Guardian - about idiots on social media blaming him for our bad form last season, when the reality was he was busting a gut to make himself available to play - week in week out.

You see it on here of course too.



It's absolutely true. I had writers cramp, but bust a gut to be available on here.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #784 on: July 25, 2021, 05:43:28 am »
Seems like journalism nowadays is just posting a bunch of non-entities tweets.

It's clickbait, best ignored
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #785 on: July 25, 2021, 05:16:22 pm »
I just read Gini’s interview in the Guardian - about idiots on social media blaming him for our bad form last season, when the reality was he was busting a gut to make himself available to play - week in week out.

You see it on here of course too.

The thing is that Gini never left because of "social media abuse" he left because LFC would not pay him Ł200k + a week!  It is disingenuous of him to say otherwise.

It does not look like we will be buying a  replacement for Gini, so it will be interesting to see if players Like Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliott will step-up to claim a regular first team spot.


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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #786 on: July 25, 2021, 06:04:17 pm »

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #787 on: July 25, 2021, 06:06:32 pm »

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #788 on: July 25, 2021, 08:46:49 pm »
Will Milner win again this year?
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #789 on: July 25, 2021, 08:52:33 pm »
as per google :-

A lactic acid test is most often used to diagnose lactic acidosis. The test may also be used to: Help find out if enough oxygen is reaching the body's tissues

Is this what they are checking for then? does it give a good indicator of level of fitness?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #790 on: July 25, 2021, 09:01:20 pm »
as per google :-

A lactic acid test is most often used to diagnose lactic acidosis. The test may also be used to: Help find out if enough oxygen is reaching the body's tissues

Is this what they are checking for then? does it give a good indicator of level of fitness?

They're checking to see if James Milner still has bragging rights as the last man standing, which he has been throughout Klopp's tenure. Last pre-season, he did a celebratory lap after his last competitor dropped out. There may be a scientific basis to it, but I'm not sure that's what it's about. It's all about being King of the Hill.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #791 on: July 25, 2021, 09:40:54 pm »
Looks like the squad has left the hotel they were at. Have they gone somewhere else in Europe for a bit now before coming back for the Anfield friendlies?

Edit: Just seen a video where Jurgen says they have gone elsewhere in Austria.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #792 on: July 25, 2021, 10:25:44 pm »
Looks like the squad has left the hotel they were at. Have they gone somewhere else in Europe for a bit now before coming back for the Anfield friendlies?

Edit: Just seen a video where Jurgen says they have gone elsewhere in Austria.

They're at Innsbruck and will be playing Hertha Berlin there on Thursday.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #793 on: July 26, 2021, 11:16:01 am »
as per google :-

A lactic acid test is most often used to diagnose lactic acidosis. The test may also be used to: Help find out if enough oxygen is reaching the body's tissues

Is this what they are checking for then? does it give a good indicator of level of fitness?

Yeah,

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If a player is above a certain amount, they will then drop out of the drill, with James Milner typically the last man standing whenever the test is used at Liverpool.

“Once you surpass this threshold, lactic acid will start to build up in your muscles faster than your body can remove it, eventually leading to fatigue,” EKF Diagnostics continues.

“Testing and improving lactate threshold within a training program can be used to make stronger and faster athletes.”

In short, if the pace and intensity a player can manage with their lactate threshold is higher than their opponent, they will be able to last longer at the level required.

This is essential within Klopp’s system, which is not wholly centred around outrunning the opposition – and particularly not now, as their approach has evolved – but still demands the highest level of fitness possible.

Robertson was throwing up in his first test at the club and had to improve his fitness/endurance.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #794 on: July 26, 2021, 11:22:37 am »
Yeah,

Robertson was throwing up in his first test at the club and had to improve his fitness/endurance.


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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #795 on: July 26, 2021, 01:24:42 pm »
Van Dijk in contention for Thursday and Gomez is very close too according to Klopp

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #796 on: July 26, 2021, 01:29:24 pm »
I'm going to press the controversial button.

I think Neco Williams is maturing into a very decent footballer and that Klopp will be happy for him to play second fiddle to Trent again.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #797 on: July 26, 2021, 01:38:09 pm »
I'm going to press the controversial button.

I think Neco Williams is maturing into a very decent footballer and that Klopp will be happy for him to play second fiddle to Trent again.

Beep-beep, beep-beep......

Yes, but did he hurl before his lactate test?
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #798 on: July 26, 2021, 03:48:55 pm »

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #799 on: July 26, 2021, 03:53:34 pm »
I'm going to press the controversial button.

I think Neco Williams is maturing into a very decent footballer and that Klopp will be happy for him to play second fiddle to Trent again.

Beep-beep, beep-beep......

I think Klopp will be happy for him to be back-up as well, and I noticed that the various reports of Williams wanting to move on have dispersed into the ether.