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Select your winners in the following 3 knockout matches:

Match 5: Red1977
10 (18.5%)
Match 5: child-in-time
8 (14.8%)
Match 6: Musketeer Gripweed
5 (9.3%)
Match 6: Lastrador
13 (24.1%)
Match 7: Sarge
7 (13%)
Match 7: Hazell
11 (20.4%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: Yesterday at 08:21:00 pm

Author Topic: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)  (Read 408 times)

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The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« on: March 27, 2024, 08:21:00 pm »
Welcome to the Jurgen Klopp draft. Our little tribute to one of our greatest ever managers who steps down at the end of the season.

This is an all-time draft where players were picked in 11 different categories relating to the life and career of Jurgen Klopp. All players to be judged on their peak performance, longevity, mentality to win, and how well they would gel as a team.

_____________________________________________________Match 5_______________________________________________________

Red1977                                       V                                           child-in-time

                         

___________________________________________________Match 6_________________________________________________________

  Musketeer Gripweed                                            V                                               Lastrador 

                         

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  Sarge                                                   V                                           Hazell 

                         
                                                                                                                                                             
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2024, 08:22:13 pm »
Okay, we go again. Apologies for the initial mistake. CIT's team is now as it should be.
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2024, 11:34:05 pm »
Imagine Mascherano v Keane in the middle in that bottom game. Be an absolute war. Two very good teams there.

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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 06:55:49 am »
I can’t remember such a tight draft with a lack of disparity between any of the teams. Someone always turns in at least one stinker or has a shocker or two that compromises the entire lineup. That’s not the car with any of these teams.
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« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 11:12:01 am »
I can’t remember such a tight draft with a lack of disparity between any of the teams. Someone always turns in at least one stinker or has a shocker or two that compromises the entire lineup. That’s not the car with any of these teams.

I think some of the eveness is down to taking out the top 20 players. It makes it that little bit less of 'you have player X so you win'. But also everyone drafted well like you say and there were no weak categories really.
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 12:24:56 pm »
You're all clueless.
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 01:03:30 pm »
You're all clueless.

Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home  :P
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 01:18:35 pm »
Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home  :P

Not me, but I am just taking on the mantle of the Rawk moaning fucker. Who was it that used to meltdown when beaten, fun times ;D
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 01:21:58 pm »
AWWYC was a moaning fart.  ;D

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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 02:01:04 pm »
You're all clueless.

Gazza and Keane is a receipe for disaster in a Klopp team otherwise your team is one of the best. Keane on his own would fit.

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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 02:30:44 pm »
I think some of the eveness is down to taking out the top 20 players. It makes it that little bit less of 'you have player X so you win'. But also everyone drafted well like you say and there were no weak categories really.

The banned list was great. It could even be extended to 40 on another draft.
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 02:57:35 pm »
The banned list was great. It could even be extended it to 40 on another draft.

Agree, meant I got to see some new players.

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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 02:57:36 pm »
AWWYC was a moaning fart.  ;D

Most of my favourite draft memories included his meltdowns though. Was it the Tautogram draft... Carlos Alberto with a C or an A?

The banned list was great. It could even be extended it to 40 on another draft.

I'd love that. It's definitely a good way of freshening up these drafts without inventing insane rules.

I also want another Circle draft one of these days. Never has a draft driven me to near insanity in the way that one did. For those who missed it, the gist being that each pick you made had to be a teammate of your last pick until your 11th pick which both had to link to your previous pick and your 1st pick. It sounds simple, but it was anything but.
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 03:38:45 pm »
And who is the creator of that Betts?  8)

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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 03:47:04 pm »
And who is the creator of that Betts?  8)

Definitive proof that the typewriter monkey theory is correct.
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 03:48:16 pm »
 ;D

Don't forget I also created 4/5/6 of Clubs Draft too.

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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 03:49:28 pm »
#DontBreakTheCircle.

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« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 03:54:29 pm »
;D

Don't forget I also created 4/5/6 of Clubs Draft too.

Damn, that's true. 4 of Internationals was yours too, I think.
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« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 03:55:25 pm »
Yeah, the spin off of 4/5/6 of Clubs.  :D

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« Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 03:58:40 pm »
Yeah, the spin off of 4/5/6 of Clubs.  :D

What's next? 4 of kit colours?  ;D
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 04:00:43 pm »
Yeah, really milked that one idea dry.  ;D

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« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 04:01:04 pm »
 :D

I have thought of it but mine would be a team that's sponsored by Nike, Adidas, Puma, Reebok etc.

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« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 05:39:11 pm »
Match 5 - Went for Red by a whisker. Nice to see a different formation from CIT - very Xabi-esque! But IMO it's missing a really great right wingback and someone with a greater skillset than Deschamps to control the midfield. Didier is great at what he does, but with a back three of ball winners behind him that job feels much less important here. Red's team is great all over, though not a fan of Souness being chained up at DM. It holds him back from his best work as a roaming box-to-box general.

Match 6 - Two sides with an identical set-up, but IMO Lastrador has marginally better personnel in key positions. Musk unlucky to come up against such a strong team. Great draft debut though. Last's side is well balanced, though small criticism is Effenberg (similar to Souness above) is not a true DM. Him and Gerrard are very similar in fact. Quite known for 'Hollywood' balls and could get in eachothers way. But here they have enough in attack to see it out.

Match 7 - Neither team quite hits it for me. Both have a few issues. Hazell with Signori in a position where he didn't play his best football, and two sweepers at CB who rarely played in back 4s missing a stopper beside them. However, Sarge also has Zola playing off the wing when he needs to be central to dictate the play, and Gazza a calamity waiting to happen. Sarge has a fantastic defence, but Hazell wins it with a very strong and complimentary midfield 3 and enough in attack to take this.
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« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 05:46:13 pm »
Match 5 - Went for Red by a whisker. Nice to see a different formation from CIT - very Xabi-esque! But IMO it's missing a really great right wingback and someone with a greater skillset than Deschamps to control the midfield. Didier is great at what he does, but with a back three of ball winners behind him that job feels much less important here. Red's team is great all over, though not a fan of Souness being chained up at DM. It holds him back from his best work as a roaming box-to-box general.

Match 6 - Two sides with an identical set-up, but IMO Lastrador has marginally better personnel in key positions. Musk unlucky to come up against such a strong team. Great draft debut though. Last's side is well balanced, though small criticism is Effenberg (similar to Souness above) is not a true DM. Him and Gerrard are very similar in fact. Quite known for 'Hollywood' balls and could get in eachothers way. But here they have enough in attack to see it out.

Match 7 - Neither team quite hits it for me. Both have a few issues. Hazell with Signori in a position where he didn't play his best football, and two sweepers at CB who rarely played in back 4s missing a stopper beside them. However, Sarge also has Zola playing off the wing when he needs to be central to dictate the play, and Gazza a calamity waiting to happen. Sarge has a fantastic defence, but Hazell wins it with a very strong and complimentary midfield 3 and enough in attack to take this.

I was thinking, in terms of flexibility, especially if we start from the back with the keeper. Lahm could invert ala Klopp with Vogts tucking in, Rivaldo can go right and Iniesta naturally likes to go left which would free up Souness to make forays up field, to play his pass and move game.. Didn't want to draw arrows all over the place though  ;D

Love Musk's front three. A proper blast from the past and all were top players.
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« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 06:07:54 pm »
I was thinking, in terms of flexibility, especially if we start  from the back with the keeper. Lahm could invert ala Klopp with Vogts tucking in, Rivaldo can go right and Iniesta naturally likes to go left which would free up Souness to make forays up field, to play his pass and move game.. Didn't want to draw arrows all over the place though  ;D

Love Musk's front three. A proper blast from the past and all were top players.

Yeah, it's true all players would in reality be flexible and not glued to their positions. But for the purpose of deciding here, there needs to be some way of discerning 'weaknesses' and deciding a winner  :)
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Re: The Jurgen Klopp Draft - Knockout Matches 5-7 (take 2)
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 06:26:10 pm »

Match 7 - Neither team quite hits it for me. Both have a few issues. Hazell with Signori in a position where he didn't play his best football, and two sweepers at CB who rarely played in back 4s missing a stopper beside them. However, Sarge also has Zola playing off the wing when he needs to be central to dictate the play, and Gazza a calamity waiting to happen. Sarge has a fantastic defence, but Hazell wins it with a very strong and complimentary midfield 3 and enough in attack to take this.

You're not looking at the whole pie. This isn't just a team that's been thrown together, it's been carefully constructed, not just put together because they starry names; I've got them working on things. Your criticism of having 2 sweepers together is blown apart by having them actually work together as a pair:



We have to change from doubter to believer. Now.

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