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All Time PL Draft - Only Club Per Club Used


Rules:
 
- Can only pick one player from a PL team (once you pick a LFC player then no more LFC players unless they played for another PL club)

- Player has to have played in the PL (obvs)

- Players judged at their peak

- Snake Draft Format

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1. JordanTre
2. Hazell
3. Max_Powers
4. Sheer Magnetism
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6. Linudden
7. Big Dick Nick
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10. Sarge
11. vivabobbygraham
12. Lastrador 
13. Lawnmowerman
14. XabiArt
15. Tubby

Any one else want to play?

Any other suggestions?
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Re: All Time PL Draft - With a Twist! (Discussion Thread & Sign up)
« Reply #1 on: December 1, 2021, 03:48:17 pm »
Having an appearance threshold of something like 100 PL appearances would make it more interesting and stop cheesyish picks like Gullit, Maicon, Blanc and youngsters like Foden who shouldn't be in all time PL drafts.

A suggestion I'm fine with if others are.

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« Reply #2 on: December 1, 2021, 04:05:44 pm »
A suggestion I'm fine with if others are.
Agreed, it stops Weahs, Di Marias, Gullitts etc
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« Reply #3 on: December 1, 2021, 04:27:26 pm »
Agreed, it stops Weahs, Di Marias, Gullitts etc
That’s no way of getting Samie involved.

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Re: All Time PL Draft - With a Twist! (Discussion Thread & Sign up)
« Reply #4 on: December 1, 2021, 04:42:19 pm »
100 is quite too many.

50 is okay. It ensures that the player contributed somewhat and stayed more than a year. Worked well at the recent clubs draft. I could deal with 70 or even 75 since that roughly equates two seasons, but let's just say that a century of appearances is a bit too much.

Then it must also be overall appearances more than anything else.
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« Reply #5 on: December 1, 2021, 05:17:51 pm »
100 is quite too many.

50 is okay. It ensures that the player contributed somewhat and stayed more than a year. Worked well at the recent clubs draft. I could deal with 70 or even 75 since that roughly equates two seasons, but let's just say that a century of appearances is a bit too much.

Then it must also be overall appearances more than anything else.
Agreed, I think 75 is a good middle ground.

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« Reply #6 on: December 1, 2021, 05:26:27 pm »
I personally think 70 could cut it for the reason that if a player spent two years in the Prem, it's natural to miss a few games per season through wear and tear or a few too many yellows even if you've got Milner's endurance in you.
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« Reply #7 on: December 1, 2021, 05:32:42 pm »
But then you'll have players like Gullit, who will be voted on based on their peak - he was someone who was a completely different player by the time he got to the PL, and it's a PL draft after all.

I've just had another idea, instead of capping it at so many appearances, you can only pick players who have played the majority of their career at PL clubs.
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« Reply #8 on: December 1, 2021, 05:32:52 pm »
50 league games is a good number. It probably meant the player played at least two full seasons in PL.

100 is too strict. Even someone like Macherano doesn't qualify under the 100 app rule.

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« Reply #9 on: December 1, 2021, 05:34:13 pm »
But then you'll have players like Gullit, who will be voted on based on their peak - he was someone who was a completely different player by the time he got to the PL, and it's a PL draft after all.

I've just had another idea, instead of capping it at so many appearances, you can only pick players who have played the majority of their career at PL clubs.

Guillit only had 48 appearances in PL. So he won't qualify.

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« Reply #10 on: December 1, 2021, 05:36:54 pm »
Guillit only had 48 appearances in PL. So he won't qualify.

Yeah I get that, but I just think that if it's a PL draft, then it should be centred around that.  Someone like John Barnes will definitely get picked early on, but Barnes in the PL vs Barnes in the First Division is a big difference.  He wouldn't qualify if we use my idea of players needing the majority of their appearances to be in the PL.
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« Reply #11 on: December 1, 2021, 05:46:26 pm »
Anyway, ignore me.  I'm hijacking a thread for a draft I'm not even in.
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Re: All Time PL Draft - With a Twist! (Discussion Thread & Sign up)
« Reply #12 on: December 1, 2021, 05:58:11 pm »
Yeah I get that, but I just think that if it's a PL draft, then it should be centred around that.  Someone like John Barnes will definitely get picked early on, but Barnes in the PL vs Barnes in the First Division is a big difference.  He wouldn't qualify if we use my idea of players needing the majority of their appearances to be in the PL.

Yeah, looks mad to me. Judging players all-time changes it from a draft centred on the Premier League to just picking whatever players you can get away with. Kind of ruins it for me. But I'm not taking part, so... ;D
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« Reply #13 on: December 1, 2021, 06:17:07 pm »
Picking and voting for Barnes, Rush et cetera is like a rap diss track towards Sky Sports dammit ;D

My preference is 50, it's fine by me and I feel like it sells the players who were a bit old in 1992 through no fault of their own short not to consider them as equals. Also to have as inclusive picking logistics or letting someone get picked for a club they were on loan at for tactical purposes is good to have people motivated.
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« Reply #14 on: December 1, 2021, 07:16:35 pm »
I think to avoid cheesy picks, it's just best to ask the voters to vote on performances in PL.

Yes I know the voters are not perfect but I assume people will not pick Barnes or Rush etc since there are many other great Liverpool players and you can only pick 1 per team.

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« Reply #15 on: December 1, 2021, 07:56:43 pm »
Shall we just vote on PL performance then.

So no cheese can occur.

13 players we have as Lawnmowerman is now playing.

I'll start it tomorrow, no clock for first round so we might get a few more before the end of the first round (like Betty  :-*).

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Re: All Time PL Draft - With a Twist! (Discussion Thread & Sign up)
« Reply #16 on: December 1, 2021, 09:17:05 pm »
I'll been gone until 6 or so tomorrow, may not get to me but if it does thats when ill be home.
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« Reply #17 on: December 1, 2021, 10:51:39 pm »
Anyway, ignore me.  I'm hijacking a thread for a draft I'm not even in.
Get in, then you can hijack it from the inside.

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Re: All Time PL Draft - With a Twist! (Discussion Thread & Sign up)
« Reply #18 on: December 2, 2021, 08:52:45 am »
When are we starting? :hally
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« Reply #19 on: December 2, 2021, 09:20:59 am »
I think the twist should be that everyone has to pick one Everton player  :P
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« Reply #20 on: December 2, 2021, 09:23:24 am »
I think the twist should be that everyone has to pick one Everton player  :P

From the current squad.
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« Reply #21 on: December 2, 2021, 09:48:59 am »
Shall we just vote on PL performance then.

So no cheese can occur.
Yes.

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« Reply #22 on: December 2, 2021, 11:10:51 am »
I think the twist should be that everyone has to pick one Everton player  :P

From the current squad.

I think Nick's pick will be Jim Carver.
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« Reply #23 on: December 2, 2021, 11:25:20 am »
I said I wanted to play 😔

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« Reply #24 on: December 2, 2021, 11:28:29 am »
I think Nick's pick will be Jim Carver.

Going to pair him up with Tosh Lines.

Actually that should be our next draft when we need a break from football ones - police detectives. :D

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« Reply #25 on: December 2, 2021, 11:30:03 am »
Going to pair him up with Tosh Lines.

Actually that should be our next draft when we need a break from football ones - police detectives. :D

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« Reply #26 on: December 2, 2021, 11:40:20 am »
Going to pair him up with Tosh Lines.

Actually that should be our next draft when we need a break from football ones - police detectives. :D

I'll take Inspector Gadget, please.
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« Reply #27 on: December 2, 2021, 11:42:19 am »
Bagsy Swallow.

If it gets you votes, you do what you need to.

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« Reply #28 on: December 2, 2021, 11:43:57 am »
If it gets you votes, you do what you need to.
 

I've done worse in search of votes.
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« Reply #29 on: December 2, 2021, 12:51:37 pm »
So with Xabi we're at 14, surely we can get two more? Tubby is one big mac away from joining, and you can always force Betty to play against his will or better judgement.

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« Reply #30 on: December 2, 2021, 01:08:47 pm »
Tubby is just researching a way of getting Redondo into a Premier League draft before he commits.

You could go with Ian Walker Tubbs? Similar hairdo.

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« Reply #31 on: December 2, 2021, 01:49:27 pm »
I said I wanted to play 😔

Great, sorry I must have missed that.

I was busy this morning.

I'll set this up to start this afternoon, no clock round 1.

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« Reply #32 on: December 2, 2021, 01:56:59 pm »
So with Xabi we're at 14, surely we can get two more? Tubby is one big mac away from joining, and you can always force Betty to play against his will or better judgement.

This is one time when I won't be making a u-turn and joining in. I will watch from afar though.
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« Reply #33 on: December 2, 2021, 03:14:30 pm »
I'll play if you need to hit 16 people.
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« Reply #34 on: December 2, 2021, 03:20:25 pm »
I'll play if you need to hit 16 people.

We could do with 15 maybe he can bribe you with the one first-round bye? ;D
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« Reply #35 on: December 2, 2021, 03:29:42 pm »
We could do with 15 maybe he can bribe you with the one first-round bye? ;D

Nah 16 is the sweet spot.  In drafts.
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« Reply #36 on: December 2, 2021, 03:31:26 pm »
This is one time when I won't be making a u-turn and joining in. I will watch from afar though.

Come on Betty!

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« Reply #37 on: December 2, 2021, 03:41:55 pm »
I'll play if you need to hit 16 people.

Sweet

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« Reply #38 on: December 2, 2021, 03:52:05 pm »
Honestly, I find it astonishing you are putting an appearance minimum in and ruling out Premierleague legend Amir Zaki. Never mind.
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« Reply #39 on: December 2, 2021, 04:08:12 pm »
Selection Thread is up.

Start now with clock off.

Chat in here please.

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=349648.new#new

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