Topic: Pep Lijnders

[redk84]

Interested to see what role he takes up.

Glad he's back as he was well regarded here

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Will be interesting what role Pep has if the following happens


Haris Mrkonja N1
@harismrkonjan1
 #Fenerbahçe agreed with #buvac on terms but they have been discussing  with some other coaches. There is nothing official and it seems that Buvac is not target number one.

This is what @sporx colleagues tell me. #Liverpool #LFC


Haris works for N1, CNN's Balkan Affiliate, usually reliable. He initially reported that Buvac went home due to his father's illness.

[sms1986]

Will be interesting what role Pep has if the following happens


Haris Mrkonja N1
@harismrkonjan1
 #Fenerbahçe agreed with #buvac on terms but they have been discussing  with some other coaches. There is nothing official and it seems that Buvac is not target number one.

This is what @sporx colleagues tell me. #Liverpool #LFC


Haris works for N1, CNN's Balkan Affiliate, usually reliable. He initially reported that Buvac went home due to his father's illness.

That's a shame if he doesn't return,  but I think Klopp can cope without him. If it is true and he does end up leaving, I wish him all the best!

[Henry Gale]

Will be interesting what role Pep has if the following happens


Haris Mrkonja N1
@harismrkonjan1
 #Fenerbahçe agreed with #buvac on terms but they have been discussing  with some other coaches. There is nothing official and it seems that Buvac is not target number one.

This is what @sporx colleagues tell me. #Liverpool #LFC


Haris works for N1, CNN's Balkan Affiliate, usually reliable. He initially reported that Buvac went home due to his father's illness.

Interesting. Does make you think the reason for leaving in the first place. Didn't really say much on here at the time as if it's private then it's hit business nothing to do with us, But with him taking a job in Turkey maybe it was a work issue rather than a personal one. Have to say if it wasn't a personal issue leaving when he did was a bit shitty but suppose we can't really comment properly till we have all the facts.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Interesting. Does make you think the reason for leaving in the first place. Didn't really say much on here at the time as if it's private then it's hit business nothing to do with us, But with him taking a job in Turkey maybe it was a work issue rather than a personal one. Have to say if it wasn't a personal issue leaving when he did was a bit shitty but suppose we can't really comment properly till we have all the facts.

I still think he left due to personal reasons, as I don't see how it benefited him to get another job with 3 weeks left in the season. It's not as if he got appointed somewhere right away.

Perhaps in the mean-time he's thought about taking a job.

[sms1986]

I still think he left due to personal reasons, as I don't see how it benefited him to get another job with 3 weeks left in the season. It's not as if he got appointed somewhere right away.

Perhaps in the mean-time he's thought about taking a job.

Yeah, it's possible that he wants a job closer to his father if his dad is ill and Turkey was the closest that he could get one. Similar to Zaf Iqbal going to Palace so he could be closer to his family.

[Henry Gale]

I still think he left due to personal reasons, as I don't see how it benefited him to get another job with 3 weeks left in the season. It's not as if he got appointed somewhere right away.

Perhaps in the mean-time he's thought about taking a job.

Yeah I agree, I thought the same. Either that or he had a bust up with someone and felt like they couldn't work together anymore. Could be 101 reasons to be fair.

Either way I wish him well for the future.

[Dim Glas]

I still think he left due to personal reasons, as I don't see how it benefited him to get another job with 3 weeks left in the season. It's not as if he got appointed somewhere right away.

Perhaps in the mean-time he's thought about taking a job.

Maybe cos it became unworkable.  There was something going on there for weeks.

But hey, I know I'll get called out for speculating, and when it's negative speculating, it's a no-no here, which I get. There's a chance the whole story will never come out!

[The Istvan Kozma Fan Club]

There's a chance the whole story will never come out!

Except when Buvač writes his memoirs titled "Against All Odds: 17 Years of Gegenpressing"

[Phatz]

Except when Buvač writes his memoirs titled "Against All Odds: 17 Years of Gegenpressing"

I freakin' hope that book gets written...

[Dim Glas]

Will be interesting what role Pep has if the following happens


Haris Mrkonja N1
@harismrkonjan1
#Fenerbahçe agreed with #buvac on terms but they have been discussing  with some other coaches. There is nothing official and it seems that Buvac is not target number one.

This is what @sporx colleagues tell me. #Liverpool #LFC


Haris works for N1, CNN's Balkan Affiliate, usually reliable. He initially reported that Buvac went home due to his father's illness.

Fenerbahce appointed Philllip Cocu today as their new boss. 

[paulrazor]

when does pre season start?

[Too early for flapjacks?]

when does pre season start?

2nd July.

[paulrazor]

2nd July.

thanks

hopefully see pics of buvac there if we dont hear news between now and then

[Dim Glas]

Not that this sould be a surprise to anyone, but Buvac isn't back at Liverpool, and not expectd to come back according the likes of Madocks.

Maybe LFC will actually just release a statement at some point now it's pre-season!

[sms1986]

Not that this sould be a surprise to anyone, but Buvac isn't back at Liverpool, and not expectd to come back according the likes of Madocks.

Maybe LFC will actually just release a statement at some point now it's pre-season!

It will be a shame if he has indeed left the club permanently, but Klopp and the club will be able to cope without him.

[Dench57]

It will be a shame if he has indeed left the club permanently, but Klopp and the club will be able to cope without him.

Have to say I admired your conviction to the "family illness/definitely returning" line. He was never coming back.

[PhaseOfPlay]

It will be a shame if he has indeed left the club permanently, but Klopp and the club will be able to cope without him.

The club will. But it removes a massive part of Klopp's preparation and planning to not have Buvac. Pep is many things as a coach, but he's not a tactician the way Buvac is. People will compare it to Rafa and Pako, but Pako was more the fitness coach for Rafa - the brains of training were still there when he left because Rafa ran the tactical training.

A better comparison would be when Ged lost Patrice Bergues and replaced him with Jacques Crevoisier, and then Christian Damiano. Bergues was the coaching buffer between Ged and the players and the man who put the tactical ideas from the blackboard onto the training pitch, with Sammy Lee. Nobody after that could compare.

[sms1986]

Have to say I admired your conviction to the "family illness/definitely returning" line. He was never coming back.

Some people were convinced of him not coming back as soon as the news broke, I simply didn't assume that it just had to be because of some argument or because he had a job offer.

[Dim Glas]

It will be a shame if he has indeed left the club permanently, but Klopp and the club will be able to cope without him.

we'll see. He's had a massive influence. And yes, Klopp does tend to go big on the praise for the work and influence of those he works with, cos that is how he is - happy to not take credit when he can give it to others. But these two together, wow, that's 17 years worth of intense work and preperations and 25 years of friendship and being collegeagues. That's a lot to lose. I'm more sad for Kloppo than anyone mind.

We'll see what happens, best to go with the glass half full stance though, and see if new influences can add something new.

[clinical]

Klopp not bothering to replace Buvac? Strange choice, thought he would.

Have to say I admired your conviction to the "family illness/definitely returning" line. He was never coming back.

He's a guy you'd 100% want to be in the trenches with. Day 727 of eating spam: "This spam is delicious".

[CraigDS]

He's a guy you'd 100% want to be in the trenches with. Day 727 of eating spam: "This spam is delicious".

Let's be honest, better than someone who runs around screaming everyone is going to die.

[sms1986]

Let's be honest, better than someone who runs around screaming everyone is going to die.

Clinical's not that bad.

[Weytske]

Klopp not bothering to replace Buvac? Strange choice, thought he would.

That's probably where the man this thread is about comes in.

[clinical]

Clinical's not that bad.

haha I'd likely be right though 

[Dim Glas]

Klopp not bothering to replace Buvac? Strange choice, thought he would.

Only worth replacing him with the right man and very hard to find I'd guess!  He's worked with the same coaches for so many years and not exactly had reason to be looking for new ones till all this happened end of last season. Gotta be a very tough position to fill.

They already said Lijnders is returning in a 'senior' role, so he's definately got a big promotion from his last role at LFC. I'd guess at them more restructering than anything - Krawietz becoming the assistant, and Pep the first team coach.

[PhaseOfPlay]

Only worth replacing him with the right man and very hard to find I'd guess!  He's worked with the same coaches for so many years and not exactly had reason to be looking for new ones till all this happened end of last season. Gotta be a very tough position to fill.

They already said Lijnders is returning in a 'senior' role, so he's definately got a big promotion from his last role at LFC. I'd guess at them more restructering than anything - Krawietz becoming the assistant, and Pep the first team coach.

It doesn't matter about the titles they're given, it's more about the functions they perform

[Dim Glas]

It doesn't matter about the titles they're given, it's more about the functions they perform

no, really? Sometimes, you are a little bit patronising PoP 

[Suareznumber7]

It doesn't matter about the titles they're given, it's more about the functions they perform

I think it’s fair to assume that Pep will be taking on some of the functions that Buvac had. Klopp seems to rate Pep very highly which could be why he isn’t replacing Buvac right away.

[PhaseOfPlay]

no, really? Sometimes, you are a little bit patronising PoP 

That's on you. I didn't have a patronising intention when I wrote that. I was just differentiating between the titles they have and the things they actually do. Making someone a "First Team Coach" doesn't mean they bring the same dynamic, skills or method as the person they replaced, even if they have the same title. Not everyone knows that.

[PhaseOfPlay]

I think it’s fair to assume that Pep will be taking on some of the functions that Buvac had. Klopp seems to rate Pep very highly which could be why he isn’t replacing Buvac right away.

They might have the same tasks, but that's not the same as having the same function.

[Dench57]

Early reports surfacing that since Buvac hasn't been around, Klopp's been trying to do his washing in the toaster. Heartbreaking 

[paulrazor]

doesnt look like Buvac is coming back

Lijnders as assistant so?

more coaches to come in?

[J-Mc-]

doesnt look like Buvac is coming back

Lijnders as assistant so?

more coaches to come in?

Not according to some sources, says that Klopp won't be making any more additions to the backroom staff with Ljinders back.

One thing to remember, if Klopp needs Buvac, you can guarantee they'll be speaking away from the club, you don't just leave a long term friendship and partnership like that without contact, not unless you've had a massive falling out.

[paulrazor]

Not according to some sources, says that Klopp won't be making any more additions to the backroom staff with Ljinders back.

One thing to remember, if Klopp needs Buvac, you can guarantee they'll be speaking away from the club, you don't just leave a long term friendship and partnership like that without contact, not unless you've had a massive falling out.

your post brings Rafa and Pako to mind.

I thought we might add a coach or two with Gerrard, Beale and Buvac gone (or seemingly gone)

[CraigDS]

I thought we might add a coach or two with Gerrard, Beale and Buvac gone (or seemingly gone)

Gerrard and Beale had nothing to do with the first team though.

[Chris~]

Gerrard was replaced by an internal appointment, which usually happens at academy level, imagine the same will happen with the role they gave Beale when he came back if it needs replacing.

[paulrazor]

Gerrard and Beale had nothing to do with the first team though.

Gerrard was replaced by an internal appointment, which usually happens at academy level, imagine the same will happen with the role they gave Beale when he came back if it needs replacing.

ah right cheers

[Dim Glas]

That's on you. I didn't have a patronising intention when I wrote that. I was just differentiating between the titles they have and the things they actually do. Making someone a "First Team Coach" doesn't mean they bring the same dynamic, skills or method as the person they replaced, even if they have the same title. Not everyone knows that.

No, that's on you over analyzing EVERY single word someone writes. Not all of us put in meticulous thought to every single forum posts. Me answering a post with my thought of what they are doing (and I did even say 'guessing'), is all that was - a suggestion as to what they are doing moving on.  Where you then get that means they are replacing someone's exact role or job criteria cos of a title is beyond me.

I like some of the stuff you post PoP, it can be interesting, but tone it down when it's something as throwaway as that, there is no need to be patronising.

[PhaseOfPlay]

I'll repeat - I wasn't attempting to be be patronising. Text-based conversation is shorn of all context which makes inflection non-existent. If you took my post to be patronising, I apologise. I like your posts too. I thought I was adding to the conversation. Mea Culpa.