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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #560 on: March 19, 2017, 09:08:31 pm »
decent result but we need such a stronger squad. I still think 4th will be a tough ask come the end of the season with this current team/squad.

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #561 on: March 19, 2017, 09:09:06 pm »
Decent performance, bit unlucky not to win.

Badly need a clinical striker though.

Think it'll be one of absolute top priorities come the summer, Origi's form and Sturridge probably leaving we barely actually have a striker at this point.

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #562 on: March 19, 2017, 09:11:24 pm »
decent result but we need such a stronger squad. I still think 4th will be a tough ask come the end of the season with this current team/squad.

The only team guaranteed a top four place right now are Chelsea, Spurs might have their usual collapse, Arsenal are collapsing, United are poor and both us and City look like finishing in the top four above all except Chelsea.

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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #563 on: March 19, 2017, 09:13:32 pm »
The fly in the ointment though Al is our inability to keep clean sheets. In the games you listed we kept two clean sheets against Boro and Sunderland the two teams with the worst attacks in the League only scoring 20 and 24 goals respectively.

Against the shite the two things you need are a tight defence and clinical goalscorer. We don't we give teams hope because we have an uncanny ability to concede in games we totally dominate. Plus we don't have a natural goalscorer which again lifts the opposition.

So personally I don't think it is the case that it is easier to find a way to beat the shite teams. We are much more comfortable against teams who come out and play. Who play out from the back and who commit players forward. Beating the shite on a regular basis for me will be more complex than just tweaking tactics. We will almost certainly need players with different attributes, who can sustain periods of being under the cosh especially away from home and nick a winner.

Spot on, especially the two highlighted parts.
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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #564 on: March 19, 2017, 09:17:26 pm »
Wow what a soulless corporate adverting bowl the Etihad is.

I'll never complain about our ground again.

Half time the c*nts were proud to introduce Mr Knobhead, the CEO of some shit tyre firm, to hand over some City shirts with the tyre companies name on the fucking back and a 0 to indicate a tyre.

And they played fucking adverts, with sound, on the big screens.

Fucking shower of shit. Hope they go into administration the c*nts.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #565 on: March 19, 2017, 09:17:30 pm »
Spurs might have their usual collapse,

people keep on saying this, despite them giving no indication whatsoever that they may do so....out of the chasing pack they look the most convincing, and they score goals....personally I think its them, Chelsea, and two others
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #566 on: March 19, 2017, 09:17:34 pm »
Not for us, the most difficult ones remain.

I don't think we will have the same problem, providing we avoid injuries on the international breaks. The Burnley game has proved we can win dirty, and as long as we have something to fight for, I expect them to fight till the end now. This is doable for us.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #567 on: March 19, 2017, 09:19:10 pm »
people keep on saying this, despite them giving no indication whatsoever that they may do so....out of the chasing pack they look the most convincing, and they score goals....personally I think its them, Chelsea, and two others

I did say "might", to be fair, but even if they do finish in the top four, I think we'll be there with them and Chelsea.

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #568 on: March 19, 2017, 09:20:36 pm »
people keep on saying this, despite them giving no indication whatsoever that they may do so....out of the chasing pack they look the most convincing, and they score goals....personally I think its them, Chelsea, and two others

Any side can drop points, Spurs still have a couple of tricky ones up ahead. I don't think you can say with any certainty where teams will finish, its going to be so intense. The teams that copes with the pressure the best will come through, in what order who can say?
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #569 on: March 19, 2017, 09:24:39 pm »
I don't think we will have the same problem, providing we avoid injuries on the international breaks. The Burnley game has proved we can win dirty, and as long as we have something to fight for, I expect them to fight till the end now. This is doable for us.

One game doesn't prove anything, we have always crumbled when we have had to try and win dirty. The games we have left will prove if we have learnt to because my god we are going to have to fight to get the 3 points against some of these teams.
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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #570 on: March 19, 2017, 09:28:14 pm »
I think end of season we'll get third to be honest. chelsea , Spurs, us and City.

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #571 on: March 19, 2017, 09:28:52 pm »
I absolutely love it that there are so many people on this board continually saying we aren't going to make top 4.  Better believe I'm taking names and calling you all out in 2 months.

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #572 on: March 19, 2017, 09:31:09 pm »
One game doesn't prove anything, we have always crumbled when we have had to try and win dirty. The games we have left will prove if we have learnt to because my god we are going to have to fight to get the 3 points against some of these teams.

Let's look at the reverse fixtures from earlier this season -

Everton - won 1-0.
Bournemouth - lost 4-3.
Stoke - won 4-1.
West Brom - won 2-1.
Crystal Palace - won 4-2.
Watford - won 6-1.
Southampton - drew 0-0.
West Ham - drew 2-2.
Middlesbrough - won 3-0.

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #573 on: March 19, 2017, 09:31:13 pm »
One game doesn't prove anything, we have always crumbled when we have had to try and win dirty. The games we have left will prove if we have learnt to because my god we are going to have to fight to get the 3 points against some of these teams.

It still doesn't mean we can't do it though. You're just basing everything on our past performances rather than accepting that teams can learn to win this way. We all know where we have to improve, but why do people have to be so sure that we cannot change things?
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #574 on: March 19, 2017, 09:40:16 pm »
Decent performance, bit unlucky not to win.

Badly need a clinical striker though.

this. Firmino is not a good enough cf for any team expecting to challenge for trophies.

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #575 on: March 19, 2017, 09:41:02 pm »
It still doesn't mean we can't do it though. You're just basing everything on our past performances rather than accepting that teams can learn to win this way. We all know where we have to improve, but why do people have to be so sure that we cannot change things?

I never said we cannot change things, we are more than capable of changing things now we have a world class manager but history has shown that more often than not we have crumbled while having to play dirty and always ending up conceding.

I quoted a post from Al555 a page back where it said we need more players who are more mentally resilient than our current crop and can handle being under sustained amounts of pressure and can see out the win.

We can do it but I just think it's a bit premature to say we can play this way, when we were going through that bad patch month or two back, for me if we came through some of those with wins that would of proven we can do it consistently and have learnt to play dirty.

Look at Chelsea at Stoke Saturday they have been doing that all season and has proven they can do it week in week out, we are not their yet but we are on the right path and eventually will get their under Klopp, I am sure of it.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #576 on: March 19, 2017, 09:41:03 pm »
OMG are you seriously suggesting the clock should be ticking against the manager, when he has only been here for 18 months? The most rediculous post I think I have ever seen on here.  :butt
When  did I say the clock is ticking against the manager?

Klopp is brilliant.

He's not a miracle worker though

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #577 on: March 19, 2017, 09:42:35 pm »
When  did I say the clock is ticking against the manager?

Klopp is brilliant.

He's not a miracle worker though

Nobody here thinks that Klopp is a miracle worker, we agree on that.

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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #578 on: March 19, 2017, 09:42:48 pm »
No it isn't, but you;d have to be pretty thick not to see that being able to beat the best teams means you must be doing a lot right. We didn't park the bus and hump long balls against City. We played excellent football.

The only way we could be 'miles away' would be if beating poor teams is intrinsically harder than beating better teams.
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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #579 on: March 19, 2017, 09:43:48 pm »
One game doesn't prove anything, we have always crumbled when we have had to try and win dirty. The games we have left will prove if we have learnt to because my god we are going to have to fight to get the 3 points against some of these teams.
We have to fight to get 3 points against all teams. Nothing new.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #580 on: March 19, 2017, 09:43:59 pm »
Yaya looked like that fat 40 year old filling in for his mates Sunday league team hungover from the night before.
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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #581 on: March 19, 2017, 09:45:48 pm »
Ask the Mancs (the red side). Get back to the cafe for a coffee.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #582 on: March 19, 2017, 09:46:49 pm »
You're not going to be here very long.

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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #583 on: March 19, 2017, 09:47:36 pm »
We had a ten minute spell after we scored where City couldn't get out of their half but we didn't take advantage and add a second. That for me was the key difference today. I'd have took a draw before the game as its a decent result there but in hindsight I am a little gutted we didn't come away with it all. Great team performance today, few stand out players but overall very pleasing.

We're in a good position currently. My only concern is the games in hand for teams all around us could end up pushing us down. They've got to win them first I know. Lots of football left, lots to play for!!
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #584 on: March 19, 2017, 09:50:02 pm »
You're not going to be here very long.

Hopefully, guy makes our resident doom and gloom brigade look positive!

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #585 on: March 19, 2017, 09:50:33 pm »
Nobody here thinks that Klopp is a miracle worker, we agree on that.
I apologise to everyone who disagrees with my opinion but I just don't see a league title anytime soon.

Klopp or not.

Sorry, its just my opinion

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #586 on: March 19, 2017, 09:51:58 pm »
Hopefully, guy makes our resident doom and gloom brigade look positive!
Ok then.

We'll win the league next year by 15 points

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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #587 on: March 19, 2017, 09:54:25 pm »
Hopefully, guy makes our resident doom and gloom brigade look positive!
They've got a spring in their step now we've drawn.
They still have Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Spurs to look forward to and their record at home is shite.

He'll be gone in a few weeks and Uniturd will still be in 6th! ;D
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #588 on: March 19, 2017, 09:56:43 pm »
I think the City faithful lacked a bit of class with Milner,its not like he fucked them over when he left.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #589 on: March 19, 2017, 09:57:07 pm »
Ok then.

We'll win the league next year by 15 points

Happy?

As a Liverpool fan, wouldn't you also be happy with that?

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #590 on: March 19, 2017, 10:00:39 pm »
I apologise to everyone who disagrees with my opinion but I just don't see a league title anytime soon.

Klopp or not.

Sorry, its just my opinion

After today, we are unbeaten against the best teams in the league. Beat or draw with Everton, and we'll have remained unbeaten against the rest of the top 7. How is it that you believe we are still miles away?
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #591 on: March 19, 2017, 10:00:44 pm »
I apologise to everyone who disagrees with my opinion but I just don't see a league title anytime soon.

Klopp or not.

Sorry, its just my opinion

Who knows what's round the corner. No way you could've foretold the Suarez Sturridge etc season.

No way you could've foretold last season even more. We had a stronger squad today is a win for a start

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #592 on: March 19, 2017, 10:04:22 pm »
I firmly Chelsea won't be this strong next season, but it's whether or not we recruit well enough in the summer that will dictate if we're in the race for the title next season. Add a world class striker & a world class CB and we'll challenge. We're great in midfield. Decent outwide although we could do with some cover. Add a number 9 who bags 20+ a season, and a top partner for Matip we'll take the league title race to the final week, even with Milner at left back. Both boxes are where titles are won. Chelsea have the best striker and best defence. That's why they're walking away with the league.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #593 on: March 19, 2017, 10:09:48 pm »
Fair result both sides could have scored 3 both sides could have had pens. It was way too open first half until we grew into it then they were in trouble then it flipped we rode our luck and anyone could of snatched it in the end and I don't think they wouldn't of deserved it either but side. Great game. Do our job from now on and we won't miss out on top 4

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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #594 on: March 19, 2017, 10:10:25 pm »
I never said we cannot change things, we are more than capable of changing things now we have a world class manager but history has shown that more often than not we have crumbled while having to play dirty and always ending up conceding.

I quoted a post from Al555 a page back where it said we need more players who are more mentally resilient than our current crop and can handle being under sustained amounts of pressure and can see out the win.

We can do it but I just think it's a bit premature to say we can play this way, when we were going through that bad patch month or two back, for me if we came through some of those with wins that would of proven we can do it consistently and have learnt to play dirty.

Look at Chelsea at Stoke Saturday they have been doing that all season and has proven they can do it week in week out, we are not their yet but we are on the right path and eventually will get their under Klopp, I am sure of it.

Chelsea are proven title winners though, so I don't think using them as a comparison is the right one. We all forget the season before it was pretty much the same team, who downed tools when Mourinho was manager. Therefore they already had the players to win the title, also the know how.

As far as we're concerned it is different as we are yet to reach that point. Klopp has made a pretty good start on it though. We are now doing fine against the bigger teams, Serbian Scouser made an excellent point in another thread, that Klopp has only once been beaten by any of the bigger teams, since his arrival in the Premiership one defeat in twenty four games. That is an incredible achievement already.

As we all know it is against some teams who use certain tactics were the biggest improvement needs to come. Once we add better quality players to the best ones we  have currently, we will hopefully have the capacity to do better against teams who park the bus. It still means that we have to acquire the knowledge of challenging for titles, and that means knowing when to close down games, and to be patient at other times, when you are chasing a result. But for me its just part of the journey we need to go on with this manager. Sadly there are no guarantees in life, but I feel totally confident that he will soon have us in a much better position, to be challenging for honours. 
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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #595 on: March 19, 2017, 10:11:45 pm »
I thought that was one of Emre Can's best performances in a red shirt.
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Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #596 on: March 19, 2017, 10:12:43 pm »
I think a point was  fair result today,both teams had glaring chances,With Sterling somehow not scoring today when on the line and Lallana's sitter today.

Amazing feat being unbeaten against the top 6 sides if only we can transmit those performances against the lesser sides.

We matched a a City side at full strength that has spunked hundreds of millions and went toe to toe with them today with a bit of luck we could have won that game.

MoTM was Can who is so good in the DM,playing at level like the 2nd half of last season in that role where he looks like a beast,Gini just a close second who's turning out to be a Rolls Royce of a player keeping things ticking over and how he protects the ball is amazing, he has amazing technique under pressure.

A few tweaks to our 1st 11 and we are going to be some force next season.

Let the top 4 rivals fight it out against each other and drop points and we can concentrate on our pretty good run in of games,hopefully most of those teams will be having their eyes on a much needed end of season holiday.

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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #597 on: March 19, 2017, 10:13:35 pm »
City have the most expensive group of attacking players in the country, and they're the most dangerous going forward in the league aside from us. To go toe to toe with them for the second time this season and come out without a defeat is a good sign of what we can do. is that enough? No it isn't, but improvements have been made since last year and under Klopp I believe that will continue to happen if he is backed.

Since Klopp has been here, we have lost one match against the top sides [1-0 at Anfield against the Mancs].

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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #598 on: March 19, 2017, 10:13:47 pm »
I thought that was one of Emre Can's best performances in a red shirt.

As someone who's slagged him this season, he was excellent. The biggest issue with Emre, is that although he's a good player, he's only suited to playing as our No.6, and that's Henderson's position. Henderson is a better player than Emre, which means he's either on the bench or you're playing him in the 2 ahead of Henderson, and both Lallana and Wijnaldum are better than him there. It's an awkward one. Hopefully if we have Europe next season they can be rotated.
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Re: Re: Manchester City 1 vs Liverpool 1 - (Milner (p) 50'; Aguero 69')
« Reply #599 on: March 19, 2017, 10:16:02 pm »
Since Klopp has been here, we have lost one match against the top sides [1-0 at Anfield against the Mancs].

And even then it would have been 0-0 if it wasn't for some fluky goal that they didn't deserve.