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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5240 on: July 11, 2019, 07:05:31 pm »
They announced it without the deal actually being complete.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5241 on: July 11, 2019, 07:06:42 pm »
Loan him to Everton in two years' time; year after that they'll pay £40m for him.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5242 on: July 12, 2019, 02:21:00 pm »
Signed Griezmann for 120m Euro's, which will make it even funnier when they do fuck all in Europe again next season.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5243 on: July 12, 2019, 02:32:07 pm »
Interesting to see what happens with Dembele and coutinho.


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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5244 on: July 12, 2019, 02:33:12 pm »
Absolutely terrible buy from Barca. He will defo flop, calling it now

How is 133 goals in 256 games at age 28 worth that much money? And they want Neymar back as well. With what money?

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5245 on: July 12, 2019, 02:38:01 pm »
Absolutely terrible buy from Barca. He will defo flop, calling it now

How is 133 goals in 256 games at age 28 worth that much money? And they want Neymar back as well. With what money?


The prices haven't made sense in a long time, but his goal-scoring record is fantastic.

I don't think they'll sign Neymar, not with Coutinho and Dembele both there. Both will have to be sold


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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5246 on: July 12, 2019, 02:39:32 pm »
Absolutely terrible buy from Barca. He will defo flop, calling it now

How is 133 goals in 256 games at age 28 worth that much money? And they want Neymar back as well. With what money?

That is definitely a good return of goals, for comparison its a lot better than Salah or Mane. Especially considering that he not an out and out striker and plays for a very defensively minded team.


I still think its a bad signing though, since it just papers over their cracks. They need quality in FB position and probably another CM.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5247 on: July 12, 2019, 02:45:46 pm »
Interesting to see what happens with Dembele and coutinho.

Just putting this out there: perhaps Dembele has more suitors in Europe than Coutinho, given Phil is 27 and hasn't set the world on fire recently. The Man United links most likely were pure fiction and I'm not sure PSG are actually interested either.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5248 on: July 12, 2019, 02:49:25 pm »


Més que un coincidence?

Seen some speculation that Barcelona are going to take the number 7 shirt of Coutinho and give it to Griezmann
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5249 on: July 12, 2019, 02:58:44 pm »
Seeing that (a) they were trying to negotiate with Atletico to pay the release fee in installments and (b) they were rumoured to have struggled to pay wages on time recently, it's fair to say that they are tight on cash. No way they'll be paying for Neymar without letting one of Dembele or Coutinho go.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5250 on: July 12, 2019, 03:15:14 pm »
They've announced Griezmann's signing after activating a 120 million Euros clause. But Atletico are claiming they need to pay 200 because the player and Barcelona came to an agreement between themselves when the clause was still 200 million :lmao
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5251 on: July 12, 2019, 03:44:47 pm »
I wonder which Fortnite dance he’ll do when he scores his first goal for them. I really don’t like that football club. I absolutely loved it when we chased them out of Europe. Entitled and arrogant.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5252 on: July 12, 2019, 03:48:40 pm »
I wonder which Fortnite dance he’ll do when he scores his first goal for them. I really don’t like that football club. I absolutely loved it when we chased them out of Europe. Entitled and arrogant.


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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5253 on: July 12, 2019, 03:51:44 pm »


Alba could almost be looking at the camera there (instead of the referee's assistant) with a 'what the fuck just happened?' on his face.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5254 on: July 12, 2019, 03:53:57 pm »
They've announced Griezmann's signing after activating a 120 million Euros clause. But Atletico are claiming they need to pay 200 because the player and Barcelona came to an agreement between themselves when the clause was still 200 million :lmao

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5255 on: July 12, 2019, 04:02:17 pm »
Absolutely terrible buy from Barca. He will defo flop, calling it now

How is 133 goals in 256 games at age 28 worth that much money? And they want Neymar back as well. With what money?

that's a really good goal scoring record though! Anything better than 1 in 2 is top class.

But a 5 year deal for him, and yeah that fee is crazy, I guess he's their Suarez replacment? Now that Suarez is 32, and seemingly living off a diet of pies. And then they'll just buy another 28 year old in 3 or 4 years to replace Griezmann! Merry go round continues.

He's an absolute tit, so very well suited to Barcelona, he'll fit right in.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5256 on: July 12, 2019, 04:05:07 pm »
Not done

"The amount deposited is insufficient to pay his release clause because it's obvious that the agreement between the club and Barcelona was done before his fee dropped from €200 to €120 million.

"Atletico Madrid understand that the contract was broken before the end of last season, on the basis of the facts, actions and statements of the player and the club has therefore started the proceedings it considers opportune to defend its legitimate rights and interests.

"Atletico are disgusted by the behavior of Barcelona and the player and particularly Barcelona, for inducing a player to break their contractual relationship with Atletico Madrid at a time in the season when the club was playing, not just a Champions League tie against Juventus, but also the League title against Barcelona itself."

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5257 on: July 12, 2019, 04:08:29 pm »
Why did Atletico agree to a new contract with a much lower release clause, was his other one close to running down?
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5258 on: July 12, 2019, 04:10:29 pm »
Why did Atletico agree to a new contract with a much lower release clause, was his other one close to running down?

No idea. The clause for 200 expired on July 1st, and went down to 120.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5259 on: July 12, 2019, 04:10:56 pm »
Why did Atletico agree to a new contract with a much lower release clause, was his other one close to running down?
there has to be a release clause with la liga players. i guess when he signed the extension his agent would have negotiated for this
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5260 on: July 12, 2019, 04:13:00 pm »
Why did Atletico agree to a new contract with a much lower release clause, was his other one close to running down?

They've announced Griezmann's signing after activating a 120 million Euros clause. But Atletico are claiming they need to pay 200 because the player and Barcelona came to an agreement between themselves when the clause was still 200 million :lmao

Not sure if this is the reason?

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5261 on: July 12, 2019, 04:15:49 pm »
that's a really good goal scoring record though! Anything better than 1 in 2 is top class.

But a 5 year deal for him, and yeah that fee is crazy, I guess he's their Suarez replacment? Now that Suarez is 32, and seemingly living off a diet of pies. And then they'll just buy another 28 year old in 3 or 4 years to replace Griezmann! Merry go round continues.

He's an absolute tit, so very well suited to Barcelona, he'll fit right in.

Fair enough. I think Messi and Ronaldo have confused matters for me. I still think its too much money though

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« Reply #5262 on: July 12, 2019, 04:16:22 pm »
how will Atletico prove that re the fee?

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5263 on: July 12, 2019, 04:17:14 pm »
there has to be a release clause with la liga players. i guess when he signed the extension his agent would have negotiated for this

Yeah I know that, but why would they have agreed to a lower release clause, that's the bit that makes no sense.  Unless it was because his other contract was up in 2 years and he could've gone for nothing.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5264 on: July 12, 2019, 04:56:15 pm »
Interesting to see what happens with Dembele and coutinho.

Rumours seem to be that Griezmann has been given Coutinho's shirt number!

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5265 on: July 12, 2019, 04:57:07 pm »
Yeah I know that, but why would they have agreed to a lower release clause, that's the bit that makes no sense.  Unless it was because his other contract was up in 2 years and he could've gone for nothing.

Might have already been in the old/same 200mil contract, that it just reduces after x years. These seem to happen occasionally in Germany if I remember rightly.

Alternatively they just wanted him to sign to protect his value/years, or even just to ensure Barca cough up an acceptably huge 120mil and then see if they can shake Barca down for some more as an extra bonus given their actions

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5266 on: July 12, 2019, 05:00:14 pm »
Is Griezmann the number 10 in the Barca side behind Suarez?
Dembele or Coutinho on the left with Messi on the right in his free role?

It just feels unbalanced. I know Barcelona are Barcelona and will whip majority of the La Liga teams but do they change their team when it comes to the CL like they did against us by putting Vidal in for more bite in midfield?

Actually, just remembered they signed De Jong. How does Busquets and Arthur fit in the midfield too?

Baffled by some of the Barca signings in recent years.
Is it because Messi has a free role in the team that they never never know what player to buy?

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5267 on: July 12, 2019, 05:11:20 pm »
Is Griezmann the number 10 in the Barca side behind Suarez?
Dembele or Coutinho on the left with Messi on the right in his free role?

It just feels unbalanced. I know Barcelona are Barcelona and will whip majority of the La Liga teams but do they change their team when it comes to the CL like they did against us by putting Vidal in for more bite in midfield?

Actually, just remembered they signed De Jong. How does Busquets and Arthur fit in the midfield too?

Baffled by some of the Barca signings in recent years.
Is it because Messi has a free role in the team that they never never know what player to buy?

Not all of them are playing at the same time. They'd be murdered in midfield.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5268 on: July 12, 2019, 05:20:36 pm »
Never watched Griezmann and been impressed,just like Pogba for Juve and France before he signed for the mancs.

It's bizarre how some players carry a rep and their price doesn't seem to be anywhere near what they should be worth compared to other players.

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« Reply #5269 on: July 12, 2019, 05:26:44 pm »
Never watched Griezmann and been impressed,just like Pogba for Juve and France before he signed for the mancs.

It's bizarre how some players carry a rep and their price doesn't seem to be anywhere near what they should be worth compared to other players.

I'm the same. He is not the complete myth that Pogba is but I don't see it with him to be honest

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« Reply #5270 on: July 12, 2019, 05:45:22 pm »
Never watched Griezmann and been impressed,just like Pogba for Juve and France before he signed for the mancs.

It's bizarre how some players carry a rep and their price doesn't seem to be anywhere near what they should be worth compared to other players.

His goal-scoring record despite playing for Simeone speaks for himself.

He started out as a winger at Sociedad and even there he was sensational. For the last 6 seasons he's averaged about 25 goals in all competitions.

He plays for an incredibly dull side but he's a talented player who knows how to score and is extremely versatile.


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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5271 on: July 12, 2019, 05:58:35 pm »
I'm the same. He is not the complete myth that Pogba is but I don't see it with him to be honest
His goal-scoring record despite playing for Simeone speaks for himself.

He started out as a winger at Sociedad and even there he was sensational. For the last 6 seasons he's averaged about 25 goals in all competitions.

He plays for an incredibly dull side but he's a talented player who knows how to score and is extremely versatile.


Even for the French NT he hasnt impressed me. He doesnt seem any different a player in that set up than he is for Atleti.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5272 on: July 12, 2019, 06:05:05 pm »
that's a really good goal scoring record though! Anything better than 1 in 2 is top class.

But a 5 year deal for him, and yeah that fee is crazy, I guess he's their Suarez replacment? Now that Suarez is 32, and seemingly living off a diet of pies. And then they'll just buy another 28 year old in 3 or 4 years to replace Griezmann! Merry go round continues.

He's an absolute tit, so very well suited to Barcelona, he'll fit right in.

133 goals in 256 games in a defensive side, with him not always playing striker. That's a fantastic record, no idea how the post you responded to is trying to play that down. He's a top player. May or may not fit at Barca, several top players haven't fit there (I'm not looking at Coutinho, but more at the likes of Ibra), but that is no indication of his quality.

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« Reply #5273 on: July 12, 2019, 06:05:41 pm »
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« Reply #5274 on: July 12, 2019, 06:15:14 pm »
Even for the French NT he hasnt impressed me. He doesnt seem any different a player in that set up than he is for Atleti.

That's because he isn't their main striker, they played with a target man in Giroud with Mbappe lurking and he plays for Deschamps who again played a ridiculously safe defensive minded side even with loads of attacking talent. I mean people at RAWK have complained plenty of times (look in the World Cup threads - even for a World Cup that they actually won), that Deschamps was ridiculously defensive in his approach.

Despite all that, he was clearly their best player in the Euros and deservedly won the Player of the Tournament award. He was the 2016's Modric without actually winning the Ballon (random famous tournament winning player voting) d'Or.

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« Reply #5275 on: July 12, 2019, 06:26:13 pm »
That's because he isn't their main striker, they played with a target man in Giroud with Mbappe lurking and he plays for Deschamps who again played a ridiculously safe defensive minded side even with loads of attacking talent. I mean people at RAWK have complained plenty of times (look in the World Cup threads - even for a World Cup that they actually won), that Deschamps was ridiculously defensive in his approach.

Despite all that, he was clearly their best player in the Euros and deservedly won the Player of the Tournament award. He was the 2016's Modric without actually winning the Ballon (random famous tournament winning player voting) d'Or.

Some bizarre takes on here thinking he's not impressive.

He's a more accomplished, more lethal Firmino.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5276 on: July 12, 2019, 06:41:36 pm »
That's because he isn't their main striker, they played with a target man in Giroud with Mbappe lurking and he plays for Deschamps who again played a ridiculously safe defensive minded side even with loads of attacking talent. I mean people at RAWK have complained plenty of times (look in the World Cup threads - even for a World Cup that they actually won), that Deschamps was ridiculously defensive in his approach.

Despite all that, he was clearly their best player in the Euros and deservedly won the Player of the Tournament award. He was the 2016's Modric without actually winning the Ballon (random famous tournament winning player voting) d'Or.
Whats with the patronising tone?

You know ive watched him,as ive pointed out,yet you tell me ''Thats because'' like you know yourself he hasnt been impressive,by explaining in your own words why he hasnt been impressive.You then bang on about how the teams he plays for play like ive come to the conclusion he isnt that impressive by not watching a single minute of him play.Then,telling me aboot Rawks opinion like ive mentioned anything at all aboot Deschamps.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5277 on: July 12, 2019, 06:45:28 pm »
800m euro release clause on Griezmann! I mean wtf? Shows how insecure they must feel as a club and also it must cost them somehow in terms of a financial incentive for the player and agent to agree to be tied to such a contract?

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5278 on: July 12, 2019, 07:07:18 pm »
Most players at Spanish clubs have insane buy out clauses.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #5279 on: July 12, 2019, 07:07:22 pm »
800m euro release clause on Griezmann! I mean wtf? Shows how insecure they must feel as a club and also it must cost them somehow in terms of a financial incentive for the player and agent to agree to be tied to such a contract?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48967047
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