Topic: Trent Alexander-Arnold

[Cafe De Paris]

I don’t see it. To leave him out of the squad when he already has 3 other right backs who he prefers then I think he will miss out even if in top form. He didn’t play him when we were winning back to back major trophies. I feel for him. Most other countries would be building a system around his strengths. But then we have the ex Middlesbrough manager at the helm. Not that I give a flying for England just Trent’s state of mind.

[Sheer Magnetism]

It's England so we have to have a variation of this discussion every tournament: why isn't Player X in the squad? The England manager isn't picking Player X because this country distrusts flair. We need Player X so he should be picked even though he's injured.

Ultimately, Southgate wants to play a certain way and Trent doesn't seem to fit into that. It is what it is, though I'd prefer he wasn't picked at all so he could stay back and train with the team. But that's it, to care deeply about this is to get drawn into the same old tabloid feeding frenzy.

[jepovic]

If Liverpool would ever go for a back of 3, god forbid, Trent would be fantastic as a wing back.
What makes this even more baffling is that in Harry Kane England has a better target man for Trent's crosses than Liverpool has.
Southgate wants to play 80s Italy style of football, and Trent crossing to Kane would be perfectly suited to such archaic tactics.

[Coolie High]

I don’t see it. To leave him out of the squad when he already has 3 other right backs who he prefers then I think he will miss out even if in top form. He didn’t play him when we were winning back to back major trophies. I feel for him. Most other countries would be building a system around his strengths. But then we have the ex Middlesbrough manager at the helm. Not that I give a flying for England just Trent’s state of mind.

Most other countries aren’t building a team around a right back however good he is, see Dani Alves for an example.

[Ray K]

@TimesSport
Trent Alexander-Arnold has been told that his all-round game lags behind Kieran Trippier’s as the size of his task to make England’s World Cup squad becomes clear


Gareth Southgate is a football genius.

[Coolie High]

Southgate will be managing Championship teams after this England gig is done.

[DelTrotter]

@TimesSport
Trent Alexander-Arnold has been told that his all-round game lags behind Kieran Trippier’s as the size of his task to make England’s World Cup squad becomes clear


Gareth Southgate is a football genius.

 

[MonsLibpool]

Most other countries aren’t building a team around a right back however good he is, see Dani Alves for an example.

Maicon was boss too.

[Asam]

Feel sorry for Trent but perhaps he should take a break from international football whilst southgate is the manager, he can revisit the situation when a new manager arrives who chooses a team based on talent rather than who the press like

[DelTrotter]

Feel sorry for Trent but perhaps he should take a break from international football whilst southgate is the manager, he can revisit the situation when a new manager arrives who chooses a team based on talent rather than who the press like

Probably end up as Lampard next with his Chelsea bias  . He seems to get worshipped by the media for the job he's doing at Everton despite them barely ever winning a game so would imagine his mates would get him the job.

[Schmidt]

Feel sorry for Trent but perhaps he should take a break from international football whilst southgate is the manager, he can revisit the situation when a new manager arrives who chooses a team based on talent rather than who the press like

Not really an option unfortunately, the authorities are terrified of players getting to choose whether they go up for duty or not.

Southgate is such a fucking prick though. If he really isn't convinced by Trent just leave him out of the squad and be done with it, why call up four right backs and then spend the whole time benching one while talking shit about him?

[MonsLibpool]

@TimesSport
Trent Alexander-Arnold has been told that his all-round game lags behind Kieran Trippier’s as the size of his task to make England’s World Cup squad becomes clear


Gareth Southgate is a football genius.

He picks Harry Maguire

[MonsLibpool]

It's Southgate's team so he can go with whoever he wants. IMO, Trent shouldn't be starting anyway because he has been in poor form this season.

A new manager will probably come in after Qatar because it seems Southgate has lost the fans (I'm not English. It's just my impression). It'll be a clean slate for Trent after that.

[Mighty_Red]

Knew we missed a trick in January, should've got Trippier in while we had the chance. What an all round superstar.

Southgate literally can't hide his utter contempt for Trent, always ready to get a dig in, he can't even praise his qualities when given the opportunity.

Time to deal with it Trent, time to get fully focused on us and the game on Saturday. This is when your return to form starts.

[Bergersrightwingviews]

As others have said, Southgate always picks Maguire and his opinions on players are therefore worthless. Getting to the Euro finals was a fluke. England will be humiliated at the World Cup and I can’t wait to see it.

[lionel_messias]

Can't believe how piss-poor Gareth Southgate is at football management. Trent is a model professional and should be a bigger noise in the England squad, given how talented he is. No matter, thankfully TAA has a real manager behind him.

Will be interesting to watch Trent celebrate his next goals and assists, might be some letting out of anger there.

[-Willo-]

How can he say Trippiers all round game is better, is he not embarrassed by this?

Trippier was allowed to leave Atletico Madrid in the summer and the only team who wanted him as some mid table shithouses paying him a fortune.

If Trent came on the market now every single club would want him, PSG, City, Barca, Real, literally everyone.

He is an absolute bellend, so glad he didn't fluke the Euros last summer.

[MonsLibpool]

How can he say Trippiers all round game is better, is he not embarrassed by this?

Trippier was allowed to leave Atletico Madrid in the summer and the only team who wanted him as some mid table shithouses paying him a fortune.

If Trent came on the market now every single club would want him, PSG, City, Barca, Real, literally everyone.

He is an absolute bellend, so glad he didn't fluke the Euros last summer.

It's terrible man management to say it in public.

[12C]

@TimesSport
Trent Alexander-Arnold has been told that his all-round game lags behind Kieran Trippier’s as the size of his task to make England’s World Cup squad becomes clear


Gareth Southgate is a football genius.

I never ever got the fuss about him as a player.
The way he threw the three lads under the bus in that final, should have been his final act.

[12C]

It's terrible man management to say it in public.

It’s utter lunacy to even think it.
Southgate is picking London centric teams like so many shite England managers before him.
Utter crap as a manager.
The last decent manager England had was Joe Mercer.

[wah00ey]

It’s utter lunacy to even think it.
Southgate is picking London centric teams like so many shite England managers before him.
Utter crap as a manager.
The last decent manager England had was Joe Mercer.

Not sure he's London-centric, Trippier is Newcastle for a start.  And then you have Shaw, Maguire, Pickford, Bellingham, Foden, Stones, Walker etc.

Doesn't stop him being utter crap though, as you say.

[Crosby Nick]

@TimesSport
Trent Alexander-Arnold has been told that his all-round game lags behind Kieran Trippier’s as the size of his task to make England’s World Cup squad becomes clear


Gareth Southgate is a football genius.

Based on those comments I don’t think Trent will even be in the squad. He’ll definitely take Walker. I presume he’ll take James and then based on that would pick Trippier, and even then 3 right backs is overkill (although a couple of them can cover two positions).

So probably Henderson the only one in the England squad for us and he’s unlikely to get much playing time.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

@TimesSport
Trent Alexander-Arnold has been told that his all-round game lags behind Kieran Trippier’s as the size of his task to make England’s World Cup squad becomes clear


Gareth Southgate is a football genius.

Wow.
As others have said, its his team, and if Trippier works better in it then fine. But he's making a fool of himself by comparing the 2.

However I wish people like Southgate would stop commenting on our players in public. Stuff like this can affect a player's confidence and help feed existing media narratives. You'll probably hear him being booed now given the average dickhead that follows ingurland.

Luckily Trent has a proper professional managing him at club level.

[redwillow]

Really couldnt be assed what Southgate thinks of him and am over the moon he didnt have play pointless games.

Just focus on winning the trophies that matter trent

[paulrazor]

@TimesSport
Trent Alexander-Arnold has been told that his all-round game lags behind Kieran Trippier’s as the size of his task to make England’s World Cup squad becomes clear


Gareth Southgate is a football genius.

This from a fella who picks Maguire?

I actually wouldnt have given a fuck if TAA missed the world cup if you asked me two weeks ago

But I do worry how it will effect him.

Everybody dreams of playing in a world cup and you dont get that many opportunities, he will be bitterly disappointed not to play in it.

That is a big blow to try recover from

[classycarra]

It's terrible man management to say it in public.

I would guess that it wasn't said in public - not clear from the tweet. Aside from his hilarious 'man management' and distrust of unique talented players, Southgate's strength is media PR and I doubt he'd have said that out loud to press.

More likely someone has leaked it to show him up, while it's currently in the sports news cycle. Hopefully Trent haha. He ain't playing in the WC, may as well stay home and get proper rest and training in

[RedForeverTT]

This from a fella who picks Maguire?

I actually wouldnt have given a fuck if TAA missed the world cup if you asked me two weeks ago

But I do worry how it will effect him.

Everybody dreams of playing in a world cup and you dont get that many opportunities, he will be bitterly disappointed not to play in it.

That is a big blow to try recover from

There is not much more he could do in the short space of time. It will hurt a lot no doubt but Southgate is the final decision maker and Trent didn’t help himself with his inconsistent form this season. It’s not like he could appeal to European Court of Human Rights isn’t it.

All those who are Going to play in 40 degrees heat is going to come back knackered. I hope England go all the way to the final and then lose it.

I expect Klopp to say something about Trent’s exclusion in his next press conference.

[bird_lfc]

It’s not even like they are trying to shoe horn him in to a solid defence

The entire team looks dreadful and they are on awful form. There is no better ‘all round’ right back on Europe on his day, regardless of his defence abilities being a ‘weakness’

The being off form this season isn’t an excuse either. As we know from other selections

[Walshy nMe®]

Whenever I think about Southgate I always think about the story Ray Parlour told about him at Boro.

He took over as Manager and Parlour was either captain or the most senior pro, obviously they had been playing together a year or two as well.

Southgate's first meeting as the manager, asks the players to call his boss, gaffa e.t.c and respect he is now the Manager.  Parlour shouts out can we call you big nose?  Parlour sent to play with the youth team and left the club a few weeks later.

Deffo holds grudges and he wasting a generational talent for some god knows reason.

[12C]

Not sure he's London-centric, Trippier is Newcastle for a start.  And then you have Shaw, Maguire, Pickford, Bellingham, Foden, Stones, Walker etc.

Doesn't stop him being utter crap though, as you say.

London media centric was perhaps a better phrase.

[El Lobo]

Imagine having the confidence to knowingly embarrass yourself publicly by saying you think Kieran Trippier is a better player than Trent Fair play to the nutjob.

[Eeyore]

Whenever I think about Southgate I always think about the story Ray Parlour told about him at Boro.

He took over as Manager and Parlour was either captain or the most senior pro, obviously they had been playing together a year or two as well.

Southgate's first meeting as the manager, asks the players to call his boss, gaffa e.t.c and respect he is now the Manager.  Parlour shouts out can we call you big nose?  Parlour sent to play with the youth team and left the club a few weeks later.

Deffo holds grudges and he wasting a generational talent for some god knows reason.

I think calling Ray Parlour a generational talent is a bit of a stretch.

[-Willo-]

Whenever I think about Southgate I always think about the story Ray Parlour told about him at Boro.

He took over as Manager and Parlour was either captain or the most senior pro, obviously they had been playing together a year or two as well.

Southgate's first meeting as the manager, asks the players to call his boss, gaffa e.t.c and respect he is now the Manager.  Parlour shouts out can we call you big nose?  Parlour sent to play with the youth team and left the club a few weeks later.

Deffo holds grudges and he wasting a generational talent for some god knows reason.

Strikes me as a very insecure man because he knows deep down he's not respected by anyone, he gives off zero authority so over compensates... like a little teachers petisn't he who's only in that role because he was nurtured into it like some man baby.

[thaddeus]

I would guess that it wasn't said in public - not clear from the tweet. Aside from his hilarious 'man management' and distrust of unique talented players, Southgate's strength is media PR and I doubt he'd have said that out loud to press.

More likely someone has leaked it to show him up, while it's currently in the sports news cycle. Hopefully Trent haha. He ain't playing in the WC, may as well stay home and get proper rest and training in

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63054249

The job of a Southgate right back is to babysit the central defender inside of him.  It's how I was taught to play the role 30 years ago and I presume what Southgate as a central defender demanded of his full-backs throughout his career.  Trent isn't that player and neither is James particularly, although James has the advantage that he's more experienced in a back five if England set-up that way.

Trent is better off out of it but I suspect he'll be taken along as a third right back for the World Cup as Trippier could also cover as the third left back if needed.  I doubt Trent gets much if any game time though.

The silver lining is that it may push Trent on to even higher levels.  There are aspects of his defensive intensity he could improve upon but caveated with he actually defends very well the majority of the time by using his brain rather than his blood and/or guts.

[Crosby Nick]

I think calling Ray Parlour a generational talent is a bit of a stretch.

The Romford Pele.

Don’t mind that from Southgate in a way. Maybe he always thought Parlour was a bit of a prick. Maybe he had to make an example of a senior pro who was setting the wrong tone like Houllier did with Ince.

Still completely out of his depth and clueless about Trent of course!

[Eeyore]

Imagine having the confidence to knowingly embarrass yourself publicly by saying you think Kieran Trippier is a better player than Trent Fair play to the nutjob.

To be fair though Trippier has played for an attritional Atletico side. That is much closer to how Southgate wants to play the game than Klopp's expansive Liverpool side. If you are going to pick Trent than you actually need to try and play expansive football. Southgate hasn't got the inclination or coaching ability to do that.

Hitting a sweeping 60 yard pass to your opposite full back doesn't really work when the coach has stationed him near his own corner flag.

[RedForeverTT]

Southgate will be managing Championship teams after this England gig is done.

Nice would be his most likely destination.

[Dim Glas]

This is what Southgate said about Maguire, sticking his big nose in now suggesting that ten Hag needs to play huim more:

"Why do we pick him? Because he’s one of the players who gives us the best chance of winning. So really we should all be wanting a Harry Maguire that’s playing regularly and playing with confidence. That applies to quite a few players but he’s the one everything lands on, which must be a tough space for him.”

So this is what Trent is dealing with here - one of the most inept managers in the game. Just seeing him on the sidelines trying to look like he knows what he’s doing is hilarious.

 Feel for Trent a bit, but from my very selfish perspective, I hope he gets a nice break when the world cup is on.

[liverbloke]

does anyone actually know what southgate's system is?

every england game i watch seems disjointed and looks like we're just winging it

it doesn't help that i cannot fucking stand most of the players that play for england though

i mean, does anyone on here shout 'come on sterling get that goal' or 'you'll never beat harry maguire'

[paulrazor]

Whenever I think about Southgate I always think about the story Ray Parlour told about him at Boro.

He took over as Manager and Parlour was either captain or the most senior pro, obviously they had been playing together a year or two as well.

Southgate's first meeting as the manager, asks the players to call his boss, gaffa e.t.c and respect he is now the Manager.  Parlour shouts out can we call you big nose?  Parlour sent to play with the youth team and left the club a few weeks later.

Deffo holds grudges and he wasting a generational talent for some god knows reason.

if that is true Parlour fully deserved it for being an idiot and disrespectful. I wouldnt blame Southgate for that.

There is not much more he could do in the short space of time. It will hurt a lot no doubt but Southgate is the final decision maker and Trent didn’t help himself with his inconsistent form this season. It’s not like he could appeal to European Court of Human Rights isn’t it.

All those who are Going to play in 40 degrees heat is going to come back knackered. I hope England go all the way to the final and then lose it.

I expect Klopp to say something about Trent’s exclusion in his next press conference.

Even when Trents form was good and we were winning the league and champions league he was never first choice.