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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6320 on: December 16, 2013, 01:03:07 am »
As I said earlier in the thread, paying him £200k a week isn't going to keep him here if we don't have CL football to offer. He'd still want out, and would get that or more from a CL club.

I don't think money is the issue really with him, playing in a winning side is. And hopefully he is realising we are able to offer that.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6322 on: December 16, 2013, 01:05:38 am »
Yet no one man is bigger than the club.

No doubt, but Suarez is our best chance of competing with the elite on a regular basis. Build a team around him, get him signed up to a long term deal, get CL football and invest some of that CL revenue. That's the quickest route to trophies for this club, which is why we must do everything in our power to keep him here.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6323 on: December 16, 2013, 01:07:50 am »
It's some turnaround, if you'd told me he would have scored 17 goals before Christmas after missing the first 5 games but to actually captain the club after the summer shitstorm, I'd have said no fucking way

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6324 on: December 16, 2013, 01:10:00 am »
Awesome interview by both the lads.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6325 on: December 16, 2013, 01:10:39 am »
I think we now know why a player who was banned for biting and took the opportunity to leave Ajax was given his send-off from that club. His complete focus in every game in earning his wages is unlike most professional footballers and we will probably never complain, even if he leaves, that he did not earn his salary or give anything less than 100%.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6326 on: December 16, 2013, 01:11:03 am »
No doubt, but Suarez is our best chance of competing with the elite on a regular basis. Build a team around him, get him signed up to a long term deal, get CL football and invest some of that CL revenue. That's the quickest route to trophies for this club, which is why we must do everything in our power to keep him here.


Yes, but no.

I witnessed a team today that was the epitome of the word 'team'. Not just a Gerrard or a Suarez - we are more than a one/two man team. we are an 11 man team. Of course we want to keep our top, top players, but tonight, I think we're all content thinking what a team we have, rather, than what a certain few individuals we have.


But we all love him as a footballer, lets not forget that. ;)
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6327 on: December 16, 2013, 01:11:34 am »
Give him what he wants

£250k a week fine fuck it

He's worth every penny!

17 goals in 11 games is crazy. He could end the season on 40+ the way he's going

He would walk into every side in the world

Giroud - would go
Van Persie - would go
Benzema - would go
Ibrahimovic - would go


The only person that comes close on form is Aguero

I would rather invest in Suarez than buy another forward.

We have all seen what has happened to Spurs got 85m and skunked it all on shite

Lamela 30m

What ever any club offers turn it down

Only three clubs can afford him now PSG, Monaco and Man City

Real haven't got the 100m will would want.

I hope contract talks are started ASAP

5 years on £200k a week get it done or sell him - we all don't want another summer of shit

When your doing what he is doing on the pitch - he can dictate the talks
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6328 on: December 16, 2013, 01:14:36 am »


Worst case scenario let him run off his contract, we get another 2 years of his prime. 




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This statement I think makes perfect business sence

The next two seasons will be in his prime

Let's say he's currently worth 90-100m

We would miss out on the money but he could deliver the League in the next two seasons.

So win the league (possibly) or have 100m in the bank and do a Spurs

Rather have a shot at winning some cups than all the pantomime and fucking about replacing the bloke

Any way we get 100m for him then every other club we deal with on any transfer deal would add 5-10m more to the price
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6329 on: December 16, 2013, 01:14:46 am »


Worst case scenario let him run off his contract, we get another 2 years of his prime. 



I said this to a mate before, but its not the worst case scenario is it? Okay we'd let him go for free and not have the ridiculous money we could get for him but if we dont get CL this season, Id say we would definitely get it in the next two with more players added on top of Suarez. The CL money and just being and competing in the CL again outweighs any money we'd get for him imo. We'd still get top dollar if we force him to stay next season too.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6330 on: December 16, 2013, 01:16:02 am »
Yes, but no.

I witnessed a team today that was the epitome of the word 'team'. Not just a Gerrard or a Suarez - we are more than a one/two man team. we are an 11 man team. Of course we want to keep our top, top players, but tonight, I think we're all content thinking what a team we have, rather, than what a certain few individuals we have.


But we all love him as a footballer, lets not forget that. ;)

So you want to sell Gerrard then?  :o
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6331 on: December 16, 2013, 01:18:00 am »
Yet no one man is bigger than the club.

No but if he continues doing what he's doing he could deliver what this club hasn't had for 23 years.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6332 on: December 16, 2013, 01:21:32 am »
No but if he continues doing what he's doing he could deliver what this club hasn't had for 23 years.



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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6333 on: December 16, 2013, 01:35:52 am »
This is his team now. The heir apparent to Gerrard. We are building this team around him. It would be silly for Henry & co. to let him leave. Shrewd businessmen don't sell their best asset
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6334 on: December 16, 2013, 02:21:46 am »
This is his team now. The heir apparent to Gerrard. We are building this team around him. It would be silly for Henry & co. to let him leave. Shrewd businessmen don't sell their best asset

They kept him when we were at our weakest, I'm sure there's no way we'll lose him when we're in the Champions League.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6335 on: December 16, 2013, 03:57:07 am »
He has the same number of goals (17) in 11 league games this season as Torres has in 94 league games with Chelsea.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6336 on: December 16, 2013, 04:07:30 am »
Scary thing is he has 17 goals in 11 games. We are only 16 games in. He is on track to break Shearer's 34 goals in one season record and that was set when there were 42 games.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6337 on: December 16, 2013, 04:19:19 am »
We must simply wrap him up in bubble wrap at the end of the game, box and unpack before next game kickoff.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6338 on: December 16, 2013, 04:24:10 am »
This is his team now. The heir apparent to Gerrard. We are building this team around him. It would be silly for Henry & co. to let him leave. Shrewd businessmen don't sell their best asset

I don't mean to suggest that we're going to sell him, because obviously if we get into the CL he's likely to stay, but I would suggest that you don't understand business very well if you think that "shrewd businessmen don't sell their best asset."

Shrewd businessmen know the value of their assets relative to other assets that could replace them, and if someone offers them a higher value than that, they sell.  That's what makes them shrewd businessmen.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6339 on: December 16, 2013, 04:36:43 am »
Selfish Bugger made 3 goals!   ;)
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6340 on: December 16, 2013, 04:52:55 am »
17 goals and 10 assists is INSANE.  Absolutely insane.

In the current market, he is easily worth a 100 million pounds.

I wouldn't sell him for 200 million for that matter.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6341 on: December 16, 2013, 04:54:17 am »
Does he really have 10 assists ? Whoscored.com puts him on 4 ?
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6342 on: December 16, 2013, 05:02:22 am »
If Bayern, Real or Barca come calling, it may come to the point that the only way for us to hold on to him is to simply refuse to sell, and hope he remains happy to give 100% with us as he's doing, even if we win the league.

For reference, see Robert Lewandowski.

I for one would be perfectly happy for us to do just that.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6343 on: December 16, 2013, 05:08:01 am »
Liverpool have scored 14 goals in the last 3 games ...

Suarez 7 goals and 6 assists.

Quite incredible.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6344 on: December 16, 2013, 05:15:47 am »
You know that boss season he had last year? When he became only the 2nd player in 19 years to reach 20 league goals in a season for Liverpool?

Well, he's 3 goals away from 20 now. And 6 goals away from his entire tally for last season already. In 11 games.

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« Reply #6345 on: December 16, 2013, 05:38:30 am »
Without a doubt, he's the most talented and best player ever to don a red jersey. He's not a club legend yet because that one requires trophies and longevity. Nevertheless, he's one of us now and he's one of the best players in the world.

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« Reply #6346 on: December 16, 2013, 05:43:49 am »
Aside from raising the level of his play, I am most impressed by the improvement of his attitude this season.
He caught me by surprise when he went for the shot after being clipped earlier in the match rather than making a meal of it and demanding the ref for a foul.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6347 on: December 16, 2013, 05:46:55 am »
Perhaps we can drill it in his head that he can become our best player ever and a god-like figure with the club. That alone won't be enough to keep him here, but a title tilt and a CL spot may do just that. There are many examples of players trading places to a 'greener grass' after a great season in a red shirt (*ahem* Torres) just to find out their career is in a slump. Leaving us even for Real or whoever is not without its risks (*ahem* Owen). If we keep playing and improving as we are and if we play in the best competition in the world, perhaps we can keep him happy enough that he'd be deterred to take a risk in moving elsewhere.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6348 on: December 16, 2013, 05:49:54 am »
The best thing about Suarez's performance yesterday was how he was still relentlessly going for goal no. 6 even with only a few minutes left on the club and the Spurs players totally given up and the other Liverpool players stroking the ball around. He did a give and go with another Liverpool player and he was sprinting away as if it was the 1st minute of the game, expecting to get the ball back!

Admittedly his behaviour over the summer was deplorable, but if we set aide sentiment and seniority, his absolute will to win, and attitude to give 100% every game and to be satisfied with nothing else but with the best make him more worthy to wear the captain's jersey when Gerrard is sidelined than any other person in the team.

And let's face it, we may not be a one player team, but with Suarez in the team, we are catapulted from a merely good team into a team that can beat anybody on any given day.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6349 on: December 16, 2013, 05:54:24 am »
Brentie is spot on. Last season he was sensational and was just over a 1 in 2 striker. Now he's nearly a 2 in 1 striker. That is simply remarkable. He's just shattered a few ceilings in terms of ability.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6350 on: December 16, 2013, 05:56:05 am »
Perhaps we can drill it in his head that he can become our best player ever and a god-like figure with the club. That alone won't be enough to keep him here, but a title tilt and a CL spot may do just that. There are many examples of players trading places to a 'greener grass' after a great season in a red shirt (*ahem* Torres) just to find out their career is in a slump. Leaving us even for Real or whoever is not without its risks (*ahem* Owen). If we keep playing and improving as we are and if we play in the best competition in the world, perhaps we can keep him happy enough that he'd be deterred to take a risk in moving elsewhere.
Perhaps we can drill it in his head that he can become our best player ever and a god-like figure with the club. That alone won't be enough to keep him here, but a title tilt and a CL spot may do just that. There are many examples of players trading places to a 'greener grass' after a great season in a red shirt (*ahem* Torres) just to find out their career is in a slump. Leaving us even for Real or whoever is not without its risks (*ahem* Owen). If we keep playing and improving as we are and if we play in the best competition in the world, perhaps we can keep him happy enough that he'd be deterred to take a risk in moving elsewhere.

Spurs' issues with how they spent the Bale money and it ended up destabilising their team, should teach Henry that it is better to  allow him to run down his contract here and to go off on a Bosman in 2 years' time than to sell him - even at GBP100M+. Because you cannot replace that kind of quality so easily. Suarez is at or approaching his career's peak in terms of how good he is, and he will stay there for another 3 years or so. We need to pull out all the stops to keep him at this club during his best years.

Over the next two years, with him in such blazing form, literally nothing is impossible if we build up the rest of the team to nearer his level. If we can just get in a loan MF like Pastore, a RB to compete with Johnson and most importantly a quality striker/ wide attacker in January, even the Premiership title is a very real possibility this season's end.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6351 on: December 16, 2013, 06:01:26 am »
I said this to a mate before, but its not the worst case scenario is it? Okay we'd let him go for free and not have the ridiculous money we could get for him but if we dont get CL this season, Id say we would definitely get it in the next two with more players added on top of Suarez. The CL money and just being and competing in the CL again outweighs any money we'd get for him imo. We'd still get top dollar if we force him to stay next season too.

Frankly the OTT money if we sell him is a snare that we would do well to be wary of. We botched up the Torres money. Spurs seems to have traded down. Anyway unless we succeed in spotting Sturridge's and Coutinho's as opposed to Aspas'es (so far), we will end up with their wages which will burden the club and cost us more money. What are the chances we wouldn't just waste the money trying to replace him. The likes of Munich or Real would be more than happy to spend 100M to get a player who will definitely improve them.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6352 on: December 16, 2013, 06:08:35 am »
Good one u36. Robbies still God though. Luis is quickly entering He Man, Master of the Universe territory and gaining speed though. The evil Skelator is played by Patrice Evra but hes long since been defeated and sent into mancsile to wait for the drop.


Little career burst of form we've seen in the last 3 games where the way overused "unstoppable" actually is the real and physical case. Cool.

Somebody mentioned the other day, playing for Liverpool seems to do that to strikers sometimes. True, 'dat. 

On the captaincy subject, as a matter of expediency its a bold statement but I view it as tactical more than anything else. It was an important game at an important time and you just had to know that having handed the armband for a historic club like  LFC Luis Suarez the person would pretty much rather die than be defeated in that particular game. Guaranteed fever pitch, like as if he needed the boost anyway.  And, as it turns out, he scored 2 and made 3 more. hfs.

Yes its true he wanted to play for a CL team so he could win it single-handedly but he was made to by himself for a whole day with no-one but his daughter to speak with and he felt sad and cried about it, so that's all paid up why do people keep hurling stones my god man the humanity......the Humanity......did I mention he scored 2 and made 3? Well in lad.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6353 on: December 16, 2013, 06:10:24 am »
Spurs' issues with how they spent the Bale money and it ended up destabilising their team, should teach Henry that it is better to  allow him to run down his contract here and to go off on a Bosman in 2 years' time than to sell him - even at GBP100M+. Because you cannot replace that kind of quality so easily. Suarez is at or approaching his career's peak in terms of how good he is, and he will stay there for another 3 years or so. We need to pull out all the stops to keep him at this club during his best years.

Over the next two years, with him in such blazing form, literally nothing is impossible if we build up the rest of the team to nearer his level. If we can just get in a loan MF like Pastore, a RB to compete with Johnson and most importantly a quality striker/ wide attacker in January, even the Premiership title is a very real possibility this season's end.
It's hard to say. If Suarez is set on going, there's nothing in the world which will hold him back.... except his wife. For the case of Spurs, the players may take a while to adjust to the league. It's like Arsenal. They basically have the same squad as last season with one exception: Ozil. If we do ever lose Suarez, let's make sure we get gazillions for him and instead of spending the money on 5 players at £20m each, we should get maybe 2 players at £40m each, players of REAL quality

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6354 on: December 16, 2013, 06:16:07 am »
Good one u36. Robbies still God though. Luis is quickly entering He Man, Master of the Universe territory and gaining speed though. The evil Skelator is played by Patrice Evra but hes long since been defeated and sent into mancsile to wait for the drop.


Little career burst of form we've seen in the last 3 games where the way overused "unstoppable" actually is the real and physical case. Cool.

Somebody mentioned the other day, playing for Liverpool seems to do that to strikers sometimes. True, 'dat. 

On the captaincy subject, as a matter of expediency its a bold statement but I view it as tactical more than anything else. It was an important game at an important time and you just had to know that having handed the armband for a historic club like  LFC Luis Suarez the person would pretty much rather die than be defeated in that particular game. Guaranteed fever pitch, like as if he needed the boost anyway.  And, as it turns out, he scored 2 and made 3 more. hfs.

Yes its true he wanted to play for a CL team so he could win it single-handedly but he was made to by himself for a whole day with no-one but his daughter to speak with and he felt sad and cried about it, so that's all paid up why do people keep hurling stones my god man the humanity......the Humanity......did I mention he scored 2 and made 3? Well in lad.

Suarez is probably the most skillful player we have had in Liverpool colours since John Barnes. And a case can be made that he is probably better than Barnes ever was, great though he was. But even more importantly, his will to win and mental strength are off the charts. Johnson said the other day he is the strongest mentally. I suspect the fact that the rest of the team went after Spurs as if they were a pack of snarling dogs after raw meat has something to do with the fact that Suarez was leading the way doing that. Suarez may not be the typical captain material, but at this point in the absence of Gerard, no one esle deserves it as much as does.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6355 on: December 16, 2013, 06:22:28 am »
It's hard to say. If Suarez is set on going, there's nothing in the world which will hold him back.... except his wife. For the case of Spurs, the players may take a while to adjust to the league. It's like Arsenal. They basically have the same squad as last season with one exception: Ozil. If we do ever lose Suarez, let's make sure we get gazillions for him and instead of spending the money on 5 players at £20m each, we should get maybe 2 players at £40m each, players of REAL quality

However short of pinching Messi and Ronaldo or Bale, who can we get who can replace him? Even any two players for him? Suarez will not sulk and he will always give his all. So while he cannot be compelled to sign a new contract, he won't do a Tevez and go on strike. So why not keep him for the remainder of his contract even if he refuses to sign a new one? 

I am encouraged to see that Suarez has behaved exemplarily so far. While his game has stepped up another level, he is well behaved to a fault, not retaliating, not diving, and not doing eggregious things like chomping on another player. His interview with Henderson after the game was almost perfect. He may be behaving himself to try to get Real to come  back for him, but I am hoping it is rather that he has come to his senses to realise that Liverpool has been set up to allow him to play at his absolute best, and that if he were to go to Real, he would have to fit into a system designed to favour other star players especially Ronaldo and he would always be second or third fiddle. I am also hoping that he realises that at Liverpool, something special is brewing and that this team can not only win the Premiership but it can have a tilt for the CL as well in the next 2-3 years.

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6356 on: December 16, 2013, 06:35:19 am »
Suarez is 26 and to my mind he has just broken through a ceiling of ability to get into the plane of players that can more often than not win their teams league titles almost by themselves. Staggering as it sounds its no longer sheer lunacy to suggest that Suarez might just be knocking on the doors of Messi and Ronaldo. Of course he has to do it for more than a few games to start that talk going but at current rate he is on course for a staggering 51 goals in the league which will of course mean he will shatter all records. I don't think he'll hit 50 goals but he could well be on course towards breaking Shearer's record for a season. And really even last summer I would have said Suarez was replaceable but with this remarkable improvement, frankly outside of Ronaldo and Messi and perhaps Ibrahimovic, I can't think of any player that can even borderline make that sort of impact on the team. We simply cannot sell him. That's that. Do what it takes to keep him.
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6357 on: December 16, 2013, 06:42:26 am »
Thrown this out to twitter and no one seems sure of the answer:

Has a player ever scored 20 league goals in the English top-flight/('Premier League era') before the turn of the year?
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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6358 on: December 16, 2013, 06:46:32 am »
The Ajax fans told us "he gets lots of goals, but he needs 12 chances to score a goal". And that was the Luis we saw at Anfield for the first few months. But that's obviously not who he is now. What happened? Can anyone explain how you can go from (relatively) profligate to super-efficient in front of goal in a year or so?

And is it marketable?

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Re: Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz - 17 goals & 10 assist worth of 'I told you so'
« Reply #6359 on: December 16, 2013, 07:00:28 am »
The Ajax fans told us "he gets lots of goals, but he needs 12 chances to score a goal". And that was the Luis we saw at Anfield for the first few months. But that's obviously not who he is now. What happened? Can anyone explain how you can go from (relatively) profligate to super-efficient in front of goal in a year or so?

And is it marketable?

And where can I get some?

Think the biggest difference is simply the style of play. Brendan has tailored the team to suit Suarez whereas Kenny's tactics were suited to get the best out of Carroll. The change in tactics have probably helped Suarez do what he does best and that has shown in his goal return. His first 40 odd games only resulted in 15 goals and now he has rocketed to 55 goals from 88 games in total. The tactics and of course the personnel too have made a huge difference to his goalscoring. He isn't having to slalom through 5 defenders to shoot from an acute angle as he had to do under Kenny.
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