Topic: NBA Discussion

[elsewhere]

Has Stephen A mentioned mark Jackson yet?

No but he mentioned Stackhouse

[Lush is the best medicine...]

to be honest I wonder if they’ll try to get Carlisle out of Dallas, know he has a job for life there,but he’s wasted with them

[Lush is the best medicine...]

No but he mentioned Stackhouse

not a bad shout that seeing as he coaches their d league team and is highly rated

[Gerry Attrick]

The Bucks are known to be interested in Budenholzer, I hope they get there first.

to be honest I wonder if they’ll try to get Carlisle out of Dallas, know he has a job for life there,but he’s wasted with them

If he leaves Dallas it won't be for Toronto unfortunately.

[Gerry Attrick]

To be honest Ujiri is starting to go downhill quickly. He started off great making loads of good moves but recently less so. We've got an aging Lowry, Ibaka and Valanciunas on contracts that make them virtually untradable and no cap space. He should be taking some heat now. The failure to beat the Cavs is not down to coaching, the fact we were ever in a position to face them is down to coaching.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

To be honest Ujiri is starting to go downhill quickly. He started off great making loads of good moves but recently less so. We've got an aging Lowry, Ibaka and Valanciunas on contracts that make them virtually untradable and no cap space. He should be taking some heat now. The failure to beat the Cavs is not down to coaching, the fact we were ever in a position to face them is down to coaching.

id say he deserves credit for getting a roster that deep with those issues to be honest, but it was obvious one of Casey/derozan/Lowry was going so as usual you make the easiest change

If he leaves Dallas it won't be for Toronto unfortunately.

true, but he did spend years in Indiana so does give me hope they could get him, can’t think of anyone else out of work who could significantly improve them to be honest, then again Casey was one of his assistants when he won the title so doubt he’d want to be seen as doing that to Casey, stackhouse to be honest could be interesting here though

[elsewhere]

The failure to beat the Cavs is not down to coaching, the fact we were ever in a position to face them is down to coaching.

I didn’t understand this part, you were 1st seed and they were 4th hence you faced them, no?
I agree with you though Ujiri lost some of his swag last few years. To me the killer was Ibaka deal. He went downhill in his last year in OKC and played even worse at Magic yet Ujiri still tied him up. Also they should’ve seoarated Lowry-DeRozan years ago. If I had to, I would have let Lowry go instead of maxing him.

[Gerry Attrick]

id say he deserves credit for getting a roster that deep with those issues to be honest, but it was obvious one of Casey/derozan/Lowry was going so as usual you make the easiest change
true, but he did spend years in Indiana so does give me hope they could get him, can’t think of anyone else out of work who could significantly improve them to be honest, then again Casey was one of his assistants when he won the title so doubt he’d want to be seen as doing that to Casey, stackhouse to be honest could be interesting here though

Stackhouse would be an interesting option. I wouldn't be against him.

I didn’t understand this part, you were 1st seed and they were 4th hence you faced them, no?
I agree with you though Ujiri lost some of his swag last few years. To me the killer was Ibaka deal. He went downhill in his last year in OKC and played even worse at Magic yet Ujiri still tied him up. Also they should’ve seoarated Lowry-DeRozan years ago. If I had to, I would have let Lowry go instead of maxing him.

What I mean is this is not a number 1 seed roster on paper at all. People shouldn't be criticising Casey for failing to get a number 1 seed to the finals, they should be giving him credit for getting that roster that far. Milwaukee, Cleveland and Boston have more talented and versatile squads.

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to be honest I wonder if they’ll try to get Carlisle out of Dallas, know he has a job for life there,but he’s wasted with them

I said this exact thing recently to my friend. One of the top coaches in the league but wasting his prime years in Mavs since Cuban has been tanking and not successfully tanking either. They are just making bad moves, now rumors link them to Whiteside which would be another idiotic move for them.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I said this exact thing recently to my friend. One of the top coaches in the league but wasting his prime years in Mavs since Cuban has been tanking and not successfully tanking either. They are just making bad moves, now rumors link them to Whiteside which would be another idiotic move for them.

im hoping for their sake they get doncic, him and Smith should be fun for the future and there’s a nice bit of torch passing between him and dirk, otherwise it’s just a waste and a sad end to dirks career too

What I mean is this is not a number 1 seed roster on paper at all. People shouldn't be criticising Casey for failing to get a number 1 seed to the finals, they should be giving him credit for getting that roster that far. Milwaukee, Cleveland and Boston have more talented and versatile squads.

milwaukee had Jason Kidd as the coach, Cleveland idiotically traded their second best player to the only team in the conference with a better regular season record than them for a 29 year old shortarse with a hip problem and an overinflated opinion of himself and Boston lost their second best player for the season after 5minutes and their best player has missed the playoffs, and yet look at where they are (not that it’s fair to expect all coaches to be as good as Stevens)

[Suareznumber7]

Stackhouse would be an interesting option. I wouldn't be against him.

What I mean is this is not a number 1 seed roster on paper at all. People shouldn't be criticising Casey for failing to get a number 1 seed to the finals, they should be giving him credit for getting that roster that far. Milwaukee, Cleveland and Boston have more talented and versatile squads.

Hiring Stackhouse isn’t going to help Toronto beat Lebron and the Cavs.  One of the dumbest decisions in a long time firing Casey after the season that Toronto had. 

Totally agree on your second paragraph.  If Toronto wants to get out of the East and play for a championship they need a much better team. 

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Totally agree on your second paragraph.  If Toronto wants to get out of the East and play for a championship they need a much better team. 

and how do they do that, do you think they can get someone like Kawhi? Or trade jinas/ibaka for boogie in a a sign and trade? Reality is they’re pretty much set with the main cast for the next few years and I doubt they could get an all star calibre player if they gave up some of their depth (eg jonas, siakam, van vleet) I doubt they could get someone who is even a potential Allstar like jokic or a Marc gasol, and giving up on Lowry and/or derozan for almost certainly less than their value isn’t a great idea and I don’t think anyone is dumb enough to do a trade akin to the nets/Celtics one

[Dread Breath]

Draft lottery this week, a big day for many teams: the Suns have punted massively on getting Doncic by signing Kokoskov.

[Ray K]

Cavs getting an absolute shellacking in the Garden. 30% FG shooting vs 60% for the Celts.

[Gerry Attrick]

Brad Stevens is a wizard. There's no other logical explanation. Cavs didn't make a single 3 in the first half.

[Midget]

Boston is legit. Hoping for a Rockets vs Celtics finals. Would make for a refreshing change after multiple years of Warriors vs Cavs.

[Broad Spectrum]

The youngsters ain’t half bad either...

[mallin9]

Brad Stevens is the one person who COULD just walk into Mordor

[latortuga]

The great thing about the "apparent" GOAT still playing is we get to see more examples of why he just isn't.

Such an important game to snuff out these Celtic youngsters and show who's boss and he goes and lays a giant douche on the front lawn of the playoffs.

[latortuga]

Brad Stevens is a wizard. There's no other logical explanation. Cavs didn't make a single 3 in the first half.

Pretty much did the exact same thing against the 6ers in game 1 of the last round.

This Celtics team is as good defensively as Indiana but can actually shoot the ball and remember Indiana outscored the Cavs in their series by ~40pts.

[Dread Breath]

The Celtic nut-hugging is getting pretty insufferable right now. Realgm forums are basically unreadable, God knows what NBA reddit is like.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

It's only game 1, Cavs will win this in 6 or 7

[elsewhere]

The great thing about the "apparent" GOAT still playing is we get to see more examples of why he just isn't.

Such an important game to snuff out these Celtic youngsters and show who's boss and he goes and lays a giant douche on the front lawn of the playoffs.

Yeah apparently he is the only all time great who had an off night. It's a first, noone ever had a bad night in play'off's ever.
Just stop it dude, their team would be lottery team without him (and they were lottery team without him even though they had Kyrie)

[Broad Spectrum]

It's only game 1, Cavs will win this in 6 or 7

Everyone was saying that about the Bucks and the Sixers. They’ll have to perform better than they have at any point this season to overcome Boston in this series. Replace LeBron with virtually any other player in the league and they’re an average team. Personally I’d start Hood over Korver as well, not that it would make a huge difference but I just always feel Korver is better from the bench.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Everyone was saying that about the Bucks and the Sixers. They’ll have to perform better than they have at any point this season to overcome Boston in this series. Replace LeBron with virtually any other player in the league and they’re an average team. Personally I’d start Hood over Korver as well, not that it would make a huge difference but I just always feel Korver is better from the bench.

Bucks and the Sixers don't have Lebron. This Cavs team is bang average, but Lebron is the x-factor. Boston have been awful away from home in the playoffs, I can't see them winning in Cleveland, but I can see the Cavs winning at least 1 in Boston.

Imo, they have no chance of getting through past the Cavs only because of Lebron.

[Dread Breath]

The Celtics needed some pretty significant non-calls by the referees to beat the 6ers.

[elsewhere]

Rockets are the Raptors of the West, take your shiny regular season awards and come back when you do something in the play-off's. 4-0 sweep for my Warriors.

[jooneyisdagod]

Rockets are the Raptors of the West, take your shiny regular season awards and come back when you do something in the play-off's. 4-0 sweep for my Warriors.

I wouldn't be so sure about a sweep but I think Curry's shooting has been way off so far and yet Warriors are swatting teams away. Once he starts getting back to his usual standards, I reckon the Rockets will find it very hard to keep up.

[elsewhere]

I wouldn't be so sure about a sweep but I think Curry's shooting has been way off so far and yet Warriors are swatting teams away. Once he starts getting back to his usual standards, I reckon the Rockets will find it very hard to keep up.

Yeah I am not that sure but I wouldn't be surprised. Steph didn't even play well and Harden had a great game yet we still won comfortably. If we win the next, sweep will be easily in the conversation.

[Broad Spectrum]

Rockets are the Raptors of the West, take your shiny regular season awards and come back when you do something in the play-off's. 4-0 sweep for my Warriors.

To be honest I thought that but wasn't brave enough to post it yesterday! I'd like to see Boston in the final, think we'll give you more of a contest than the Cavs even with LeBron.

[b_joseph]

Far too many people are writing the Rockets off. The Warriors should win this series and the championship but to write a team off after a tough game one, is always silly.

Cleveland are probably the better bet to win from 0-1 but I doubt either series will be a quick/easy one.

[mallin9]

The Celtics needed some pretty significant non-calls by the referees to beat the 6ers.

Hahaha Everton, this take.....

[Suareznumber7]

Yeah I am not that sure but I wouldn't be surprised. Steph didn't even play well and Harden had a great game yet we still won comfortably. If we win the next, sweep will be easily in the conversation.

Harden had a great game but he’s going to be dead tired by game #4.  He tried to win that game yesterday on his own which against a team like the Warriors you can’t do. 

[Broad Spectrum]

Hahaha Everton, this take.....

I was thinking more City fans moaning about their non-calls after we spanked them in the quarter-finals 

Although this series was quite tight, Boston were deserved winners.

[elsewhere]

Jalen Rose has a great 4 mins analysis of how Harden holds on to the ball too much and eats the clock while freezing teammates vs how Warriors speed it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oTF5ex8Kk

[elsewhere]

Harden had a great game but he’s going to be dead tired by game #4.  He tried to win that game yesterday on his own which against a team like the Warriors you can’t do. 

He seemed dead tired already by the 4th quarter yesterday.

[Suareznumber7]

He seemed dead tired already by the 4th quarter yesterday.

Shaq had a great quote last night at halftime talking about him needing "others" in order to win championships. Harden hasn't figured that out yet. 

[Dread Breath]

I was thinking more City fans moaning about their non-calls after we spanked them in the quarter-finals 

Although this series was quite tight, Boston were deserved winners.

NBA admits missed calls hurt Sixers in game five.

[Euskadi]

To be honest I thought that but wasn't brave enough to post it yesterday! I'd like to see Boston in the final, think we'll give you more of a contest than the Cavs even with LeBron.

Would love to see Boston in the final.

[Dread Breath]

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