Author Topic: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott) (Read 592956 times)

LovelyCushionedHeader · « **Reply #1320 on:** July 12, 2021, 11:11:10 am »

Quote from: Hazell on July 11, 2021, 12:17:12 pm

All fair points although I don't think Brewster was given that many opportunities in competitive games for us?

No you're right he didn't, other than a couple of cup matches. But in those matches you could tell that he wasn't doing what we needed him to do, both on and off the ball. You can only presume he would have been giving off similar vibes in training, which I guess is why he was never trusted off the bench in a league match. And judging by his stint at Sheffield United, we made the right call.

Ghost Town · « **Reply #1321 on:** July 12, 2021, 05:55:00 pm »

There's an element of 'what might have been' with Brewster - if he had not got that long injury halting his development at that crucial moment. Before that all the sounds from the club were they thought he'd make it here. After...

There's a tide in the affairs of men, which if taken at the flood leads on to fortune..etc. i.e timing can be crucial, which is why Klopp prefers the players he wants to keep to stay and train and learn with the club and be right there for when opportunity strikes, rather than go out on loan.

I hope Harevy stays around

bird_lfc · « **Reply #1322 on:** July 12, 2021, 08:49:21 pm »

Harvey is gonna be to us what mount is to Chelsea and foden to Man City

Probably just totally jinxed it there but fuck it. The kid is a talent

RainbowFlick · « **Reply #1323 on:** July 13, 2021, 07:34:15 pm »

Quote from: bird_lfc on July 12, 2021, 08:49:21 pm

Harvey is gonna be to us what mount is to Chelsea and foden to Man City

Probably just totally jinxed it there but fuck it. The kid is a talent

we just need to get the PEDs they gave to Foden that made him randomly gain about 10% acceleration in a season

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #1324 on:** July 13, 2021, 10:14:58 pm »

Quote from: RainbowFlick on July 13, 2021, 07:34:15 pm

we just need to get the PEDs they gave to Foden that made him randomly gain about 10% acceleration in a season

And developed a pair of thighs like tugboats.

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #1325 on:** July 14, 2021, 12:05:03 am »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on July 13, 2021, 10:14:58 pm

And developed a pair of thighs like tugboats.

Should get some tips from Shaq.

Angelius · « **Reply #1326 on:** July 20, 2021, 12:05:25 am »

Nice words about Harvey in Klopp's interview today:

"Harvey made a step, I have to say. He looks in a proper shape, really, really fit. He came back in a good shape and is here now in full training obviously. You can see last year really worked well for him. Now let’s make the next steps together."

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/438242-jurgen-klopp-austria-training-camp-week-one

Peabee · « **Reply #1327 on:** July 20, 2021, 12:09:18 am »

Quote from: Angelius on July 20, 2021, 12:05:25 am

Nice words about Harvey in Klopp's interview today:

"Harvey made a step, I have to say. He looks in a proper shape, really, really fit. He came back in a good shape and is here now in full training obviously. You can see last year really worked well for him. Now let’s make the next steps together."

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/438242-jurgen-klopp-austria-training-camp-week-one

I really hope it works out with this lad. He loves the club, and he’s an exciting player with the ball.

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #1328 on:** July 20, 2021, 01:07:46 pm »

Quote from: Angelius on July 20, 2021, 12:05:25 am

Nice words about Harvey in Klopp's interview today:

"Harvey made a step, I have to say. He looks in a proper shape, really, really fit. He came back in a good shape and is here now in full training obviously. You can see last year really worked well for him. Now let’s make the next steps together."

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/438242-jurgen-klopp-austria-training-camp-week-one

Great to see. If Harvey has the right attitude, I can see him achieving great things at LFC ...

Dubred · « **Reply #1329 on:** July 20, 2021, 02:46:01 pm »

I love this as much as big signings. Young players coming through and being successful. Really hope Harvey gets the chance, and makes a real impact this season.

He does seem to have that 'it' whatever it is

I guess, the talent, and that bit of arrogance in his own ability.

Really high hopes.

Persephone · « **Reply #1330 on:** July 20, 2021, 06:05:06 pm »

Quote from: Dubred on July 20, 2021, 02:46:01 pm

I love this as much as big signings. Young players coming through and being successful. Really hope Harvey gets the chance, and makes a real impact this season.

He does seem to have that 'it' whatever it is I guess, the talent, and that bit of arrogance in his own ability.

Really high hopes.

He has so much self confidence, it's great to see and not that common in players breaking in to the first team squad. Most times players look scared to make an error. Harvey doesn't seem to give AF. I am excited to see how his career plays out, and I hope he can achieve big things with us.

tubby · « **Reply #1331 on:** July 20, 2021, 06:23:23 pm »

Looked really good today, a new attacking dimension to our play if he does get opportunities in that more attacking third midfielder role.

[new username under construction] · « **Reply #1332 on:** July 20, 2021, 06:25:42 pm »

Quote from: tubby pls. on July 20, 2021, 06:23:23 pm

Looked really good today, a new attacking dimension to our play if he does get opportunities in that more attacking third midfielder role.

No doubt he'll be able to handle the Premier league with ease

Asam · « **Reply #1333 on:** July 21, 2021, 12:31:18 am »

Quote from: [new username under construction] on July 20, 2021, 06:25:42 pm

No doubt he'll be able to handle the Premier league with ease

I think this will be his position, it allows him to use his best qualities more often, his passing, touch and vision are all very good, his lack of outright pace is less of a problem in the middle, it’s also nice to see a left footed player in midfield for us, I do think it helps with the balance

Ghost Town · « **Reply #1334 on:** July 21, 2021, 01:44:10 am »

Looked really good yesterday. There were one or two moments where it seemed like it was the others who weren't on his wavelength. Hopefully he sticks around and gets opportunities

mallin9 · « **Reply #1335 on:** July 21, 2021, 01:46:04 am »

He’s a bit of a gem

FLRed67 · « **Reply #1336 on:** July 21, 2021, 05:27:36 am »

The difference between players who make a career as a top level player, and those that don't, is not talent, but "coachability".

Talented youngsters are typically less coachable. They don't want to listen to instructions, or train hard, or live the proper lifestyle. They already think they are good.

Hence very few talented youngsters become first team regulars, at the top level.

Of course, once in a blue moon, you get a player who is talented at such a galactic level, that this doesn't apply. They don't give a sh$t about training, or instructions, and no one really cares. The two I can think of came from Brazil and have "Ronald" in their name.

With Brewster, it was obvious a long time ago he wasn't going to make it at LFC. The club did well to offload him for a large sum of money.

Is Harvey one of the rare ones?

Crimson · « **Reply #1337 on:** July 21, 2021, 08:01:02 am »

Not sure on the rest of your post, but Koeman is deffo not from Brazil.

HeartAndSoul · « **Reply #1338 on:** July 21, 2021, 08:06:39 am »

Looks much better in a number 8 position than out wide for us. He just doesn’t have the pace to play out wide in our team but looks very very good in that number 8 role. Will need to improve defensively but I’m sure in games with both hendo and Fabinho next to him, he’ll be able to concentrate more on the attacking side and knowing he’s got them 2 next to him.

El Lobo · « **Reply #1339 on:** July 21, 2021, 08:59:45 am »

Quote from: FLRed67 on July 21, 2021, 05:27:36 am

The difference between players who make a career as a top level player, and those that don't, is not talent, but "coachability".

Talented youngsters are typically less coachable. They don't want to listen to instructions, or train hard, or live the proper lifestyle. They already think they are good.

Hence very few talented youngsters become first team regulars, at the top level.

Of course, once in a blue moon, you get a player who is talented at such a galactic level, that this doesn't apply. They don't give a sh$t about training, or instructions, and no one really cares. The two I can think of came from Brazil and have "Ronald" in their name.

With Brewster, it was obvious a long time ago he wasn't going to make it at LFC. The club did well to offload him for a large sum of money.

Is Harvey one of the rare ones?

I’m not sure how to say ‘that’s some level of horse shit’ without it coming across rude.

Brewster issue was pretty obviously that he wasn’t quite talented enough to make it at our level, nothing to do with ‘coachability’ or thinking he was already too good.

Edit: And Ronaldo and Ronaldinho were both talented youngsters who just couldn’t be arsed with training at a young age? Fucking hell

yes · « **Reply #1340 on:** July 21, 2021, 09:44:14 am »

Quote from: FLRed67 on July 21, 2021, 05:27:36 am

The difference between players who make a career as a top level player, and those that don't, is not talent, but "coachability".

Talented youngsters are typically less coachable. They don't want to listen to instructions, or train hard, or live the proper lifestyle. They already think they are good.

Hence very few talented youngsters become first team regulars, at the top level.

Of course, once in a blue moon, you get a player who is talented at such a galactic level, that this doesn't apply. They don't give a sh$t about training, or instructions, and no one really cares. The two I can think of came from Brazil and have "Ronald" in their name.

With Brewster, it was obvious a long time ago he wasn't going to make it at LFC. The club did well to offload him for a large sum of money.

Is Harvey one of the rare ones?

I don't post much but that level of nonsense has brought me out. So here I am.

rawcusk8 · « **Reply #1341 on:** July 21, 2021, 02:08:45 pm »

Quote from: FLRed67 on July 21, 2021, 05:27:36 am

The difference between players who make a career as a top level player, and those that don't, is not talent, but "coachability".

Talented youngsters are typically less coachable. They don't want to listen to instructions, or train hard, or live the proper lifestyle. They already think they are good.

Hence very few talented youngsters become first team regulars, at the top level.

Of course, once in a blue moon, you get a player who is talented at such a galactic level, that this doesn't apply. They don't give a sh$t about training, or instructions, and no one really cares. The two I can think of came from Brazil and have "Ronald" in their name.

With Brewster, it was obvious a long time ago he wasn't going to make it at LFC. The club did well to offload him for a large sum of money.

Is Harvey one of the rare ones?

Put the glue down slowly and back away.

Suareznumber7 · « **Reply #1342 on:** July 21, 2021, 09:01:04 pm »

Quote from: FLRed67 on July 21, 2021, 05:27:36 am

The difference between players who make a career as a top level player, and those that don't, is not talent, but "coachability".

Talented youngsters are typically less coachable. They don't want to listen to instructions, or train hard, or live the proper lifestyle. They already think they are good.

Hence very few talented youngsters become first team regulars, at the top level.

Of course, once in a blue moon, you get a player who is talented at such a galactic level, that this doesn't apply. They don't give a sh$t about training, or instructions, and no one really cares. The two I can think of came from Brazil and have "Ronald" in their name.

With Brewster, it was obvious a long time ago he wasn't going to make it at LFC. The club did well to offload him for a large sum of money.

Is Harvey one of the rare ones?

Amazing post

Ghost Town · « **Reply #1343 on:** July 21, 2021, 11:48:39 pm »

Quote from: Suareznumber7 on July 21, 2021, 09:01:04 pm

Amazing post

Define 'amazing'...

Bobinhood · « **Reply #1344 on:** July 22, 2021, 01:39:57 am »

SO i think Harvey here is basically gonna be Jack Grelish redux in terms of the inherent skill set, but also a knuckle down trier whose gonna work his nuts off to get better. the little half hour game he was deliberately working on right footed crosses the whole game. Brilliant. I really liked that.

Klopp's right that year in the champ has done him no harm whatever.

Samio · « **Reply #1345 on:** July 22, 2021, 11:44:02 am »

Quote from: Bobinhood on July 22, 2021, 01:39:57 am

SO i think Harvey here is basically gonna be Jack Grelish redux in terms of the inherent skill set, but also a knuckle down trier whose gonna work his nuts off to get better. the little half hour game he was deliberately working on right footed crosses the whole game. Brilliant. I really liked that.

Klopp's right that year in the champ has done him no harm whatever.

His time at Rovers, just from a physical point of view getting him used to playing against ‘men’, will be invaluable.

Can’t wait until we see him in our ‘proper’ team in a competitive game.

Asam · « **Reply #1346 on:** July 30, 2021, 08:50:59 am »

He’s gotten to physically stronger, if he could just add a burst of acceleration he would be some player, once he’s created the space for himself the awareness and ability to execute is there, he just needs that Modric/Iniesta 5-10 yard turbo boost

Fromola · « **Reply #1347 on:** July 30, 2021, 08:59:37 am »

Quote from: FLRed67 on July 21, 2021, 05:27:36 am

The difference between players who make a career as a top level player, and those that don't, is not talent, but "coachability".

Talented youngsters are typically less coachable. They don't want to listen to instructions, or train hard, or live the proper lifestyle. They already think they are good.

Hence very few talented youngsters become first team regulars, at the top level.

Of course, once in a blue moon, you get a player who is talented at such a galactic level, that this doesn't apply. They don't give a sh$t about training, or instructions, and no one really cares. The two I can think of came from Brazil and have "Ronald" in their name.

With Brewster, it was obvious a long time ago he wasn't going to make it at LFC. The club did well to offload him for a large sum of money.

Is Harvey one of the rare ones?

To be fair Brewster was injured for 14 months with a busted ankle when he was Harvey's age, how much did that set him back in terms of development and coaching time? Then all the time it took to regain sharpness. If he stayed fit, who knows?

Phil M · « **Reply #1348 on:** July 30, 2021, 09:01:23 am »

Quote from: FLRed67 on July 21, 2021, 05:27:36 am

The difference between players who make a career as a top level player, and those that don't, is not talent, but "coachability".

Talented youngsters are typically less coachable. They don't want to listen to instructions, or train hard, or live the proper lifestyle. They already think they are good.

Hence very few talented youngsters become first team regulars, at the top level.

Of course, once in a blue moon, you get a player who is talented at such a galactic level, that this doesn't apply. They don't give a sh$t about training, or instructions, and no one really cares. The two I can think of came from Brazil and have "Ronald" in their name.

With Brewster, it was obvious a long time ago he wasn't going to make it at LFC. The club did well to offload him for a large sum of money.

Is Harvey one of the rare ones?

Why do you write your posts like they're articles?

Oskar · « **Reply #1349 on:** July 30, 2021, 10:10:24 am »

He gets better every time you watch him.

His intelligence on and off the ball is incredible for someone so young. It was good to see him looking to get higher up the pitch yesterday and look to get shots off when the opportunity opened up. He just looks to have limitless potential and sounds like an exemplary professional whenever he speaks or is spoken about by the coaches and his team-mates. It's going to be really exciting to watch him develop over the next few years under Klopp.

DelTrotter · « **Reply #1350 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:08:57 pm »

He's amazing, hopefully no last minute loan if we make some signings, he's way above the championship, that would be a waste of time and I wouldn't trust anyone else outside of Bielsa perhaps to manage him properly in this league.

Deserves a start on the weekend but we'll see what happens, hopefully plenty of minutes for him this season regardless anyway.

Samie · « **Reply #1351 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:16:59 pm »

He's had a really good pre season and should be part of the first team squad permanently now.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #1352 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:19:11 pm »

Quote from: Samie on August 8, 2021, 06:16:59 pm

He's had a really good pre season and should be part of the first team squad permanently now.

He's not fast enough,can't play in a 4-3-3 or a 4-1-4 or a 7-1-1-1 or a 3-3-3-1 and he doesn't even have a prominent foot,send him to Brentford.

Hedley Lamarr · « **Reply #1353 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:20:54 pm »

He won’t be going out on loan, he’ll get plenty of minutes. Looks completely at ease, think he’ll be a first team regular by the end of the season. Frightening talent.

RedSince86 · « **Reply #1354 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:23:21 pm »

He looks ready to get 1000-1500 minutes next season.

Brilliant again today.

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #1355 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:27:13 pm »

Great worker off the ball. He'll do nicely.

Samie · « **Reply #1356 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:27:19 pm »

Harvey Elliott last to leave the field at the end.

https://twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1424420951979184139

bird_lfc · « **Reply #1357 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:27:23 pm »

He’s a real talent out Harvey and a MASSIVE red. Hopefully he gets a decent amount of minutes this season alongside Curtis

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #1358 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:38:55 pm »

Quote from: Samie on August 8, 2021, 06:27:19 pm

Harvey Elliott last to leave the field at the end.

https://twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1424420951979184139

Gutted for the lad,he's obviously been told that he's surplus to requirements.

Asam · « **Reply #1359 on:** August 8, 2021, 06:39:56 pm »

Very promising performance