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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99800 on: June 30, 2019, 06:22:11 pm »
Hi lads, anyone seeing Taiwo Awoniyi enough to give a proper scout report of this guy and what type of forward he is? Still any chance he will make it to the first team of LFC? cheers

Even if Klopp rates him I'd imagine he's some way off being able to get a work permit. I've never seen him play.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99801 on: June 30, 2019, 10:51:39 pm »
Even if Klopp rates him I'd imagine he's some way off being able to get a work permit. I've never seen him play.
I believe he has Belgium passport already, should be easy for Klopp. If he rates him. Scored 12 and assisted 6 in the belgium top division, he looks more technical version of Origi.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99802 on: July 2, 2019, 04:53:00 pm »
Anyone heard anything about us signing a Fulham youngster, Harvey Elliot? Seems to be doing the rounds on Twitter because of some instagram goodbye he posted? Not the most concrete of links, I grant you, but interesting nonetheless. Made his PL debut this past season as a 16 year old so is clearly highly rated.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99803 on: July 2, 2019, 05:54:32 pm »
Haven't watched him, but based on hype alone he is supposed to be a Sancho level talent and quite easily one of the best talents in this country, we haven't made a domestic youth signing like this since Sterling, It's very exciting if we do get him.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99804 on: July 2, 2019, 06:40:35 pm »
Haven't watched him, but based on hype alone he is supposed to be a Sancho level talent and quite easily one of the best talents in this country, we haven't made a domestic youth signing like this since Sterling, It's very exciting if we do get him.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99805 on: July 2, 2019, 08:55:08 pm »
Haven't watched him, but based on hype alone he is supposed to be a Sancho level talent and quite easily one of the best talents in this country, we haven't made a domestic youth signing like this since Sterling, It's very exciting if we do get him.

Very interesting, I assumed he was a big prospect as he was given his debut this season. Wasn't aware that he is seen as a Sancho-level talent though. That would indeed be a big deal if he comes to us. Surprised it's still so hush-hush, but I suppose if he's still only 16 it wouldn't be highly advertised.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99806 on: July 3, 2019, 04:08:50 am »
Any ideas on whose coming on the pre-season trip? Should be room for a couple of young fullbacks given the squad as well as some young forwards given Copa/Afcon
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99807 on: July 3, 2019, 03:25:12 pm »
Anyone heard anything about us signing a Fulham youngster, Harvey Elliot? Seems to be doing the rounds on Twitter because of some instagram goodbye he posted? Not the most concrete of links, I grant you, but interesting nonetheless. Made his PL debut this past season as a 16 year old so is clearly highly rated.

Rob Gutmann on TAW said someone who'd know told him we were getting him the other day.

In other news Masterson has signed a two year deal with QPR

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99808 on: July 3, 2019, 07:17:02 pm »
I see it is being reported that academy staff are "quietly optimistic" about a 16 year old midfielder on our books called Layton Stewart. Anyone know much about him?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99809 on: July 3, 2019, 08:09:18 pm »
Seeing as it's quiet in terms of the seniors on the transfer front, it's a good opportunity to buy up some young talent. A few more Van Der Berg type signings for the future. It's an easy way to make good money back in the future if nothing else (Solanke/Ibe) and you can always produce a Sterling.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99810 on: July 3, 2019, 08:34:34 pm »
I see it is being reported that academy staff are "quietly optimistic" about a 16 year old midfielder on our books called Layton Stewart. Anyone know much about him?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99811 on: July 3, 2019, 08:45:40 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99812 on: July 3, 2019, 08:46:54 pm »
The Harvey Elliot lad would be on par with the Sepp signing, albeit he is a year younger and thus further away from the first team. But in the sense that he would be an inexpensive, low-risk/high-reward type pickup, it fits that model.

Still nothing confirmed on that front though, from what I can see. It's an odd one- mentioned by a TAW fella in passing, gained steam on twitter then just disappeared as a news bit.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99813 on: July 3, 2019, 09:22:39 pm »
I see it is being reported that academy staff are "quietly optimistic" about a 16 year old midfielder on our books called Layton Stewart. Anyone know much about him?

Been with LfC for a few years a think because I’ve seen his name before back when you used to hear more about the U16s.  An attacking MF I think.  Thought he might have been playing up towards the end of last season because I think he’s an early Sept birthday so an older one within his own age group.  Perhaps for the first time for years I don’t think any U16s played up.  Probably too many in the two year group last season, which meant many first years got relatively little time eg O’rouke, Ritaccio, Bearne (yes, he was injured for some of it). 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99814 on: July 3, 2019, 10:47:08 pm »
Been with LfC for a few years a think because I’ve seen his name before back when you used to hear more about the U16s.  An attacking MF I think.  Thought he might have been playing up towards the end of last season because I think he’s an early Sept birthday so an older one within his own age group.  Perhaps for the first time for years I don’t think any U16s played up.  Probably too many in the two year group last season, which meant many first years got relatively little time eg O’rouke, Ritaccio, Bearne (yes, he was injured for some of it). 

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« Reply #99815 on: July 4, 2019, 01:20:06 pm »
Been with LfC for a few years a think because I’ve seen his name before back when you used to hear more about the U16s.  An attacking MF I think.  Thought he might have been playing up towards the end of last season because I think he’s an early Sept birthday so an older one within his own age group.  Perhaps for the first time for years I don’t think any U16s played up.  Probably too many in the two year group last season, which meant many first years got relatively little time eg O’rouke, Ritaccio, Bearne (yes, he was injured for some of it).
Seems to have made a few appearances last season - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/layton-stewart/profil/spieler/580801

You listed some of the youth Liverpool players capped by England in an earlier post so you must keep an eye on this also. I can't ever remember seeing this guy listed can you?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99816 on: July 4, 2019, 01:42:23 pm »
Gomez?

Gomez is brilliant but I don't remember him being that high regarded? I mean obviously he was a big talent but I'm talking wonderkids like Sterling/Sancho and Eliott apparently. From what I've read about him, I definitely want Harvey Elliott at Liverpool.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99817 on: July 4, 2019, 01:43:08 pm »


No idea when.  It is usually a bit after they return for pre-season and some way through playing their first few friendlies.   But you’re right, it is potentially a huge cohort of second year U18s moving up: Boyes; Clayton; Dixon-B; Duncan; Glatzel; Jaros; Larouci; Longstaff; Raitanen; Sharif; Tagseth; Alex Turner; Varesanovic; Neco Williams; Rhys Williams; winterbottom. 

Even assuming Raitanen (barely played), Turner and Varesanovic (never seen play) are not offered contracts, you can understand why some of the others listed as ‘contract offered’ are unlikely to sign.

Who joins the U18s in the new season?  Well those LFC have bought recently, ie 2 from Sunderland one of which must be Luca Stephenson, Billy Koumetio, a CB bought from France in January, and the new Polish Goalie.   Now there seems to be less mention of those under 16 in any thread anywhere (probably a very good thing), it’s difficult to know who is progressing through the ranks unless you are family of friends of the boys.  But I’ve seen mention of a couple with Eng U16s caps, namely James Norris and Jarell Quansah.  Then there were those names in the U19 Ueafa champions League squad last season from the U16s, but can’t find that list anymore.
The Sunderland players signed were Luke Hewitson a goalkeeper and James McConnell a winger but they are still only England u16 players.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99818 on: July 4, 2019, 02:28:27 pm »
Gomez is brilliant but I don't remember him being that high regarded? I mean obviously he was a big talent but I'm talking wonderkids like Sterling/Sancho and Eliott apparently. From what I've read about him, I definitely want Harvey Elliott at Liverpool.

He was definitely very highly rated, I remember a fair few people said they just assumed he'd end up at Chelsea, when he eventually moved from Charlton. Though people said exactly the same when Shelvey opted to sign for us as well.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99820 on: July 4, 2019, 03:57:55 pm »
The Sunderland players signed were Luke Hewitson a goalkeeper and James McConnell a winger but they are still only England u16 players.

I've managed to dig up some articles that mention Liverpool giving trials to McConnell, Hewiston and another lad named Harrison Jones (all from Sunderland) from back in April. I guess Jones didn't make the cut!

When did we officially secure these? The talk from last summer/fall was that we also picked up another Sunderland academy lad named Luca Stephenson. Seems like we are really raiding the black kats.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99821 on: July 4, 2019, 04:09:45 pm »
Gomez is brilliant but I don't remember him being that high regarded? I mean obviously he was a big talent but I'm talking wonderkids like Sterling/Sancho and Eliott apparently. From what I've read about him, I definitely want Harvey Elliott at Liverpool.

Gomez was definitely highly rated, but he was signed more for the first team as  opposed to the youth team, he had already made 10+ appearances in then charlton side when we bought him, the lack of hype in comparison to the rest of those players is probably  due to the position tion he plays in as well.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99823 on: July 4, 2019, 04:51:43 pm »
It will be fun to see to what extent some of our youngsters are involved in the first few friendlies. We will barely have any senior attackers available, so we should see a significant amount of the likes of Wilson/Brewster/Jones/Woodburn. I think it will be very interesting to see Woodburn in particular- last year ended up being a writeoff for him (still can't quite figure out where it all went wrong) but I think he's a real talent and can still make an impression.

Also interested to see whether Jones is deployed as a front 3 player or in midfield. Personally I think he's better in midfield but he's got enough about him to do a job on the left as well. Fun times.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99824 on: July 4, 2019, 10:38:49 pm »
Seems to have made a few appearances last season - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/layton-stewart/profil/spieler/580801

You listed some of the youth Liverpool players capped by England in an earlier post so you must keep an eye on this also. I can't ever remember seeing this guy listed can you?

Nope, but he might have played England youth levels before.  It’s just not very easy to find out anything about U16s anymore. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99825 on: July 4, 2019, 10:46:15 pm »
Gomez is brilliant but I don't remember him being that high regarded? I mean obviously he was a big talent but I'm talking wonderkids like Sterling/Sancho and Eliott apparently. From what I've read about him, I definitely want Harvey Elliott at Liverpool.

That’s probably because wonder kids is usually reserved for exceptionally skillful midfielders or strikers who can’t stop scoring.  CBs just don’t fit that definition, by definition.  You might have one that comes through exceptionally early for a CB, like the Ajax skipper from last season, or atapamdu [or similar] from Chelsea’s, via Exeter.   Gomez was known quality, identified as the best in his age group by far by the then England youth coach who went on to join Brendan Rodgers at LFC, which no doubt helped us secure him. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99826 on: July 5, 2019, 02:12:33 pm »
The official site lists the following as turning up for the first wave of pre-season training:

Arroyo, Brewster, Clyne, Fabinho, Gomez, Kent, Hoever, Jones, Lallana, Matip, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Phillips, Van den Berg, Wilson, Woodburn.


Notable youth omissions seem to me to be Lewis and possibly Glatzel / Duncan.  It had always seemed they were largely younger and further from first team level than the above but worth bearing in mind re pre-season matches and likely sightings.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99827 on: July 5, 2019, 02:14:08 pm »
Interesting that Anderson Arroyo has been named as part of the group of first team players returning to training tomorrow and Adam Lewis' name isn't on the list. Not sure if Arroyo has a work permit, but I assume he wouldn't be able to feature in the friendlies if he doesn't.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99828 on: July 5, 2019, 02:33:25 pm »
The official site lists the following as turning up for the first wave of pre-season training:

Arroyo, Brewster, Clyne, Fabinho, Gomez, Kent, Hoever, Jones, Lallana, Matip, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Phillips, Van den Berg, Wilson, Woodburn.


Notable youth omissions seem to me to be Lewis and possibly Glatzel / Duncan.  It had always seemed they were largely younger and further from first team level than the above but worth bearing in mind re pre-season matches and likely sightings.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99829 on: July 5, 2019, 02:38:45 pm »
It's true to say that if Shankly had told us to invade Poland we'd be queuing up 10 deep all the way from Anfield to the Pier Head.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99830 on: July 5, 2019, 04:38:11 pm »
Can't believe Anderson Arroyo actually exists.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99831 on: July 5, 2019, 08:09:18 pm »
The official site lists the following as turning up for the first wave of pre-season training:

Arroyo, Brewster, Clyne, Fabinho, Gomez, Kent, Hoever, Jones, Lallana, Matip, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Phillips, Van den Berg, Wilson, Woodburn.


Notable youth omissions seem to me to be Lewis and possibly Glatzel / Duncan.  It had always seemed they were largely younger and further from first team level than the above but worth bearing in mind re pre-season matches and likely sightings.

It could be that either they are not mentioning U23s names yet or, as the U23s returned to training on Weds, they have already done their testing and may join up after a couple of days while the seniors do their testing. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99832 on: July 5, 2019, 08:42:14 pm »
Just spotted that while Kent and Woodburn are back tomorrow in the 16, Ejaria isn’t, yet a loan hasn’t been confirmed yet.  Presumably he is training with a Championship club with a view to a loan.  So maybe not Reading again then. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99833 on: July 6, 2019, 01:12:07 pm »
Bad news for Kelleher with a broken wrist.  With Alisson away for so long he should have got lots of opportunity.  Now looks like Migs will be needed to stay and play, and perhaps Jaros will go on tour.  I’m assuming Grabara is going out on loan again, but maybe that’ll be curtailed with Kelleher out till later in August. 

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« Reply #99834 on: July 7, 2019, 05:54:49 pm »


I believe he has Belgium passport already, should be easy for Klopp. If he rates him. Scored 12 and assisted 6 in the belgium top division, he looks more technical version of Origi.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99835 on: July 7, 2019, 10:33:48 pm »
Catch a picture of the new polish goalie signed by the academy, and a suggestion of a couple of academy players possibly training with the firsts today at @jacklusby_


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99837 on: July 8, 2019, 01:40:53 am »
Telegraph reporting the Harvey Elliot lad will be joining us. They are really making it out to be a coup, excited to see him link up with us.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99838 on: July 8, 2019, 09:15:51 am »
I think the keeper from Sunderland is only 14, he was playing with their u14s last season

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99839 on: July 8, 2019, 10:58:34 am »
Telegraph reporting the Harvey Elliot lad will be joining us. They are really making it out to be a coup, excited to see him link up with us.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/07/07/exclusive-england-u17s-midfielder-harvey-elliott-join-liverpool/
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