Topic: General Manchester City thread

[KingKolo]

Square root of fuck all about this in the media. Let's step back and think about that for a minute and tell me there isn't an agenda here.

Mate it was the second top story on the BBC page all morning.

The video doesn't actually show any specific players or staff singing the song.

What more do you want?

[Mighty Zeus]

Everyone can see, but nobody will care and/or speak up about it other than us.

No, I think there's a consensus that they're kind of twats.

The idea that the United twitter account would ever stoop to even mention us if they beat us to the title, jesus. What a tiny fucking club Manchester City still is.

You get bullied at school so you spend a year taking steroids and lifting. Now it's summer and you're walking up and down the high street in a tight vest with hiking socks in your keks maintaining aggressive eye contact with high status strangers. Congratulations. Your insecurity could not be more visible.

[Dazzer23]

'There is no suggestion that the song references Sean Cox or the Hillsborough disaster.'

What gets me is how do they have the Brass to say that. Is it an Official Man City song? written by someone the Club paid to do so, and then approved, signed off and stamped 'Official' by the suits at the Club? If so than fair enough.

But if it was written by a fan/s(s) then how the hell do they now what the suggestion of the words is!!? 

[deFacto please, you bastards]

It's unbelievably strange behaviour that this main club song is essentially all about us.

All very Everton but its good to know that we're on their minds constantly. Inferiority complex

[royhendo]

On the song, if you just let them get on with it and reveal themselves to be who they are, that'll do all the work needed to highlight the kind of club they're becoming.

Meanwhile, we're doing a good job of doing it right these days, and the contrast will do the work for us.

[Jookie]

On the song, if you just let them get on with it and reveal themselves to be who they are, that'll do all the work needed to highlight the kind of club they're becoming.

Meanwhile, we're doing a good job of doing it right these days, and the contrast will do the work for us.

Spot on this.

Even though some in here think it's being brushed under the carpet by the media, I don't think it is. I don't live in Liverpool anymore and at work today quite a few people have mentioned it to me. Not all of them that interested in football that much either. Shows that there has been some coverage of it.

I find it all a bit bizarre. From some of their staff (and we don't know who exactly) singing the song in the 1st place to their official comment on it. If we'd done similar then I'd be annoyed with our players and the club. They've sort of shrugged their shoulders and not said much. Hopefully it gets mention and put to Guardiola in his FA Cup Final press conference.

[Samie]

Despicable financially doped petro dollar club. 

[Sheer Magnetism]

Marina Hyde hitting it out of the park again:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/may/15/uefa-parking-ticket-fines-will-not-rein-in-football-maverick-clubs

[Dazzer23]

Even though some in here think it's being brushed under the carpet by the media

It's been on the front page of the BBC website all day, I don't think its being brushed under the carpet at all.

[Pheeny]

I think if Liverpool fans had not been all over Twitter and Facebook about it yesterday then it would have been brushed under the carpet.

[CraigDS]

It's been on the front page of the BBC website all day, I don't think its being brushed under the carpet at all.

It's about 3/4 of the way down their Sports section. It's not on the main news bit.

[sirKennyDaggers]

Red Cafe and GOT relatively tame compared to that cesspit blue moon,their fans have gone over the edge since the lottery win.

[KingKolo]

It's about 3/4 of the way down their Sports section. It's not on the main news bit.

It was second top football story for most of the morning.

No doubt about it. Glad to see people kicked off about it rather than the shithouse "leave them to it" nonsense we are seeing from some on here.

The people who came up with the words to that song will be absolutely delighted that Liverpool fans are kicking off about it.

[Peabee]

Any article which doesn't publish the lyrics to the song they sang is piss poor.

For the record...

All the way to Kiev
To end up in defeat
Crying in the stands
And battered on the streets
Kompany injured Salah
Victims of it all
Sterling won the double
The scousers won f*ck all
ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ

They’re either dumb or disingenuous not to know “victims” is a Hillsborough dog whistle.

[I've been a good boy]

Forget the football aspect of it, they’re just shit human beings. Seen wild dogs that are better behaved than them. I truly hope their bubble bursts asap, never seen such a vile set of “fans”

[Johnnyboy1973]

The people who came up with the words to that song will be absolutely delighted that Liverpool fans are kicking off about it.

Quite possibly. But, I don't think the Man City players will be - after all it makes them look like proper c*nts.

[Jm55]

Football has thankfully moved on a lot in the last 15 years. I remember getting the train back from United away years ago and loads of theirs were going back to St Helens and similar shitholes and that ‘without killing anyone’ song  was being belted out all across the train, streams of families, kids, you name it, all joining in unison to mock football fans being killed, all for a bit of one up man ship. It obviously still happens now but it’s nowhere near as bad. Even this City song is tame compared to the shite we had 15 years ago.

[oxenstierna]

Lets move on from this. Its in bad taste and they should be concentrating on themselves - we got a CL final to look forward to, something they hopefully never will.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

The City statement is ridiculous.

The club cannot say with any certainty what it's about for a start (unless they commissioned their own fans to write it!), but what the coverage has shown is that they've been singing about us all season. Obviously we were aware, but now the wider population is aware and from comments made to be shows how bitter and sad they are.

The reality is that our version celebrates 5 successes over a long period of time. Their parody takes the piss out of a season when we knocked them out and reached the final. Big clubs get to European finals, some they win some they lose, it happens.
They have nothing like we do to sing about so they resort to singing about us.

The whole thing is showing the club and fans up for what they are, so carry on you sad twats because we've got another final to look forward to.

[KingKolo]

Weren't you begging moderators to ban someone earlier? The person who wrote what he did will be absolutely delighted you were kicking off about it.

Yeah I was really 'begging'. 

There's a big difference. There's no way to prove the connotations of the song's shitty lyrics, whereas the muppet on here wrote what he wrote.

Quite possibly. But, I don't think the Man City players will be - after all it makes them look like proper c*nts.

This is a very fair point, but I think City have made their statement and will stick to it.

[Skeeve]

The two needn't be mutually exclusive.

How about bans for people asking for bans too then, seems very much like waving an imaginary card around after a foul/dive. 

[lukeb1981]

If it is not about Sean Cox and Hillsborough then what is it about? That is a question they will not be able to answer. 

[royhendo]

Weren't you begging moderators to ban someone earlier? The person who wrote what he did will be absolutely delighted you were kicking off about it.

If you're talking about the one above, that happened after reading the post. If you post anything borderline on that front, you get a ban. The person who wrote it can't complain about anyone but him or herself (I'm guessing it was a him but it's the Internet).

[Dench57]

How about bans for people asking for bans too then, seems very much like waving an imaginary card around after a foul/dive. 

Mods? Temporary ban for this guy please?

[Hinesy]

Roy has dealt with the issue and we'll move on thanks guys. Have deleted references to the post too.

[Johns_Barn]

change the title from city to shitty

No. Keep it strictly straight. No banter title. No updating it to go with the times, just manchester city (lower case is deliberate). Or better still nuke the thread.

Ignoring people that want your attention is the most painful thing you can do. Better still, amalgamate them in the same thread as yer nited.

[paulrazor]

No. Keep it strictly straight. No banter title. No updating it to go with the times, just manchester city (lower case is deliberate). Or better still nuke the thread.

Ignoring people that want your attention is the most painful thing you can do. Better still, amalgamate them in the same thread as yer nited.

hahaha  thats a good one

[I've been a good boy]

No. Keep it strictly straight. No banter title. No updating it to go with the times, just manchester city (lower case is deliberate). Or better still nuke the thread.

Ignoring people that want your attention is the most painful thing you can do. Better still, amalgamate them in the same thread as yer nited.

The Everton and Utd threads rightly have funny titles because as rivals, we can take the piss out of them. This lot are just a dickhead club who are trying way too hard to create a rivalry and deserve no attention.

[Johnnyboy1973]

I never used to consider myself to be a victim. But recent incidents have made me rethink that.

To put it bluntly, being a Liverpool fan means I’m treated differently. If I’m ever offended it’s because I’m a victim. If I feel something is unjust I’m a victim. State an opinion someone disagrees with and, yep, you guessed it, I’m a victim.

It shouldn’t be the case but I’ve almost become numb to it on social media. In the past, the victim shouts would trigger me. The Hillsborough comments would rattle me. But this is just how it is on Twitter and Facebook. People want reactions. Trolls clamber for retweets and likes. But because these shouts are now so overused, they simply no longer have the same impact.

This in itself is an issue. Can you imagine someone walking round in real life making jokes about 96 deaths? Yet social media gives people the anonymity and the confidence to do exactly that.

We’ve all come to expect it from fans or rivals clubs but hearing it from rivals players was jarring. The video of the Manchester City players singing their fans’ version of Allez, Allez, Allez isn’t something you expect to ever see the light of day.

These players are role models to the masses. The song they’re singing references Liverpool supporters being ‘battered in the streets’. It mentions a fellow professional being injured. It even mentions a phrase many associate with the Hillsborough disaster. 

Yes, they’ve just won the Premier League. They’ve had a bit to drink and they’re in a celebratory mood. They’re behind closed doors so allow their masks to slip. Allowing for all that, I still struggle to understand why exactly they opted to sing that song. Even if there’s only a one per cent chance it manages to leak, is it worth the potential blowback?

It isn’t a song you can randomly just start singing, either. Meaning that potentially wasn’t the first time that group has sung it. They even went out of their way to change a part of the song to Vincent Kompany injuring Mohamed Salah as opposed to Sergio Ramos doing the deed. This subtle change means they know exactly what they’re saying. Any claims of innocence go out of the window because of that.

City fans are adamant the ‘battered in the streets’ line is in no way connected to Sean Cox. The club even mention this specific line in their statement: ‘Any suggestion that the lyrics relate to Sean Cox or the Hillsborough tragedy is entirely without foundation.’

Perhaps the most alarming part of that is that they didn’t apologise. Manchester City, as a club, are giving off the impression that having their staff sing about fans being assaulted is fine so long as Sean Cox isn’t namechecked.

Truth be told, it’s hard to prove the chant is about him. But the connotations are there and you can’t blame fans for immediately making that link. Likewise, the ‘victims of it all’ line is thrown in there as a dig about Hillsborough, regardless of what their fans claim.

Let’s face it, the word ‘victim’ when levelled at a Liverpool fan is a dig. It’s a jibe associated with what happened at Hillsborough and 99 per cent of football fans know this. It’s why they’re so quick to say it. They can act dumb, but football Twitter isn’t averse to getting creative with insults. Yet the usual suspects are stuck on a shelf and the victim shout is given an airing whenever anything is linked to Liverpool.

I commented on the video yesterday and found Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds United, Aston Villa, Newcastle United, Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Everton and Manchester United fans in my mentions calling me a victim amongst other things.

All because I felt players from the Premier League champions singing questionable lyrics was unprofessional. These same fans, however, are seemingly offended by the actions of Liverpool fans throughout the years.

They were quick to bring up the man pushing people into the fountain in Barcelona. Even quicker to justify the City players singing that song by bringing up what happened to the bus last season. Some mentioned Heysel. Some had screenshots of random Liverpool fans saying things they shouldn’t be saying.

It’d be just as easy for me to find examples of idiot fans. I could claim City’s bus deserved to be attacked because of how City fans acted at Wigan Athletic that time. But I wouldn’t do that because I’m not an idiot. And that isn’t the point anyway. The point is these are professional players singing songs that fans shouldn’t even be singing in all honesty.

What would the reaction be if Liverpool players were caught singing a song about the Manchester City fan who was assaulted by Schalke fans? Or if they mentioned Kevin de Bruyne picking up an injury while joking about City’s failure to get beyond the quarter-final of the Champions League? It’s unprofessional and, because it’s Liverpool, supporters of various clubs would combine to make sure we knew it. They’d then never let us forget about it.

Because the rules are different for us and will continue to be so. They have been for a long time now and the fact City don’t have enough respect for us to acknowledge why this has caused offence means clubs now realise that too. They don’t need to react normally because Liverpool fans are ‘offended by everything and ashamed of nothing’, right?

https://anfieldindex.com/40581/that-manchester-city-video.html

[indianscouser]

The Guardian running with it now.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/15/manchester-city-deny-players-mocked-hillsborough-tragedy-liverpool-flight-song-football

I have to say, if it was us, Guardian would be running a daily live blog and tens of opeds about how pathetic our club and players are.

[Johns_Barn]

You get bullied at school so you spend a year taking steroids and lifting. Now it's summer and you're walking up and down the high street in a tight vest with hiking socks in your keks maintaining aggressive eye contact with high status strangers. Congratulations. Your insecurity could not be more visible.

 

Conjours a bleak image....

[jonnypb]

City players have made their club into even more of a joke with this video.  It's shocking that they would even mock people who have been battered on the streets, especially when it has led to life changing injuries. It's one things the fans singing it (each team has it's dick head following), but for the players to sing about it.....

They're just a shitty little club on the outskirts of manchester.  They might be able to buy the league, but their fans are jealous of the passion, pride and unity that Liverpool FC has.  Ignore the bitter %*$£

[Johns_Barn]

Forget the football aspect of it, they’re just shit human beings. Seen wild dogs that are better behaved than them. I truly hope their bubble bursts asap, never seen such a vile set of “fans”

O'rly?! I'm calling fake outrage.

This has been said about all sorts of fans.

[Jm55]

As much as it does fucking annoy me.

The simplest way is just to win in Madrid.

Then all this ‘banter’ just fucks off. ‘All the way to Kiev to end up in defeat’ hasn’t quite got the same ring to it when we’re Champions of Europe, does it.

To be honest. The point these dickheads miss is that whilst us having fallen short a lot recently is annoying, it does have a sense of inevitability about it. Eventually Liverpool win one, then all this shit becomes invalid and they’re left looking like the c*nts they are.

[slaphead]

It says a lot about the players of that club and the connection they don't have with the fans that they are trying to mimmick an awful song from the terraces to show how much they are in tune with them. I wonder if any of them will be big enough to condemn what they sang and not dismiss the publicity of it as sour grapes.
Everyone knows they bought their success, yet they claim they only win things because they have leaders to add to that. Leaders don't just shout at people on the pitch and organise, they have a moral code. Let's see how many of these "leaders" they have are man enough to apologise.
I don't respect any of them players, you lose with class and you win with class.
Just fuck off on your holidays ya bunch of arrogant c*nts and deny you knew what you were singing, we'll make our plans for Madrid and win the thing every one of you want more than anything.

[BER]

I don't want a rivalry with this shower, they just aren't worthy.

[Peabee]

Bus wankers.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

we have an opportunity to shut them up on June 1st.

[wah00ey]

we have an opportunity to shut them up on June 1st.

Yes and let's not sing about them if / when that happens.

[Chakan]

Yes and let's not sing about them if / when that happens.

It’s really something that doesn’t even have to be said. Because for our team it wouldn’t even occur to them to sing about another team celebrating their success