Topic: Cody Mathès Gakpo

[didi shamone]

Starting to blossom in to The Real McCoy isn't he 

I see what you did there

[shank94]

The first goal was exquisite, Robben would be proud of that composure. The second was pure brilliance.

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm not sold on him (at all). But those were 2 class finishes.

Second one was flashier, but the first one more encouraging for his long term prospects. Being able to create space off the dribble for a shot in the box is going to be a skill he needs if he isn't going to run behind defenses consistently. 

[rob1966]

Starting to blossom in to The Real McCoy isn't he 

[DelTrotter]

Starting to blossom in to The Real McCoy isn't he 

 

[Dim Glas]

I'm not sold on him (at all). But those were 2 class finishes.

Second one was flashier, but the first one more encouraging for his long term prospects. Being able to create space off the dribble for a shot in the box is going to be a skill he needs if he isn't going to run behind defenses consistently.

you certainly do have some ‘interesting’ takes 

[Fiasco]

I'm not sold on him (at all). But those were 2 class finishes.

Second one was flashier, but the first one more encouraging for his long term prospects. Being able to create space off the dribble for a shot in the box is going to be a skill he needs if he isn't going to run behind defenses consistently.

Could you elaborate on what you aren't sold on, and why?

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Fucks sake Bob.

[Bob Sacamano]

Could you elaborate on what you aren't sold on, and why?

He has an odd skill set in my view....he strikes the ball really well and seems like a natural finisher, but he doesn't make runs behind the defense and he's not a winger who can leave a defender in the dust in a 1v1 matchup. Seems like he is being groomed for the Firmino role which is our #10, and that makes sense given the above....and yet he's also not really a creator either (very pedestrian assist/passing numbers). And since our #10 has to do a lot of dirty work, his lack of physicality and aggression is a concern for me as well.

I'm very curious to see what happens when Jota is 100% fit and Diaz is back. Neither play the Firmino role and yet I don't see how you can play Gakpo ahead of those 2.

[FlashGordon]

He has an odd skill set in my view....he strikes the ball really well and seems like a natural finisher, but he doesn't make runs behind the defense and he's not a winger who can leave a defender in the dust in a 1v1 matchup. Seems like he is being groomed for the Firmino role which is our #10, and that makes sense given the above....and yet he's also not really a creator either (very pedestrian assist/passing numbers). And since our #10 has to do a lot of dirty work, his lack of physicality and aggression is a concern for me as well.

I'm very curious to see what happens when Jota is 100% fit and Diaz is back. Neither play the Firmino role and yet I don't see how you can play Gakpo ahead of those 2.

Did he not run in behind the defence for both his goals yesterday 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Did he not run in behind the defence for both his goals yesterday 

Yeah but.

[RedG13]

The lack of time and patience afforded to Nunez and Gakpo by some this season has been almost unbelievable. I suppose it's just the way society is these days though. Too many expect everything, and they expect it now. Little or no time is given for players to settle and bed in. Little or no time afforded them to develop understandings with teammates and adapt to new surroundings and ways of playing.

Too many expect robots, not human beings.

I  Kinda always expect a little time to get up speed coming in(expect probably goalkeeper). Like it takes time to learn all the pressing.
Have just look for some positives early on and build from it imo. Nunez could see he was insane shot creator, but couldnt finish etc. Gapko saw flashes of his link play but had a dysfunctional MF behind him.
Elliott Can see his ability to play in tight spaces, passing ability etc but his defensive part of game was not there to be expected by a 19 year old who hasnt play a lot of MF at the youth level

[SamLad]

Did he not run in behind the defence for both his goals yesterday 

he'll be complaining about Cody's gait next.

[mattD]

Anyone else wondering why Liverpool have brought tall strikers?

Cody and Darwin looking to form the next front line for us in the coming years, and both absolute goliaths. Diaz ain't short either.

Are the stat gurus or Klopp seeing a trend in the game towards big speedy men up front being the norm for top class sides? As the game becomes ever faster and more physical, does this indicate us ensuring we keep up with the changing game?

One thing I noticed yesterday was just how physical Cody looked, overcoming constant haranguing and pressing from a few Man Utd players at one time. Didn't look phased, and contributed to our goals. A sign of things to come for striker lineups?

[FlashGordon]

he'll be complaining about Cody's gait next.

Now he does have a very strange gait.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Now he does have a very strange gait.

When he swings his hips,his head and feet and 13ft apart.

[MBL?]

I had big doubts about him. Never wrote him off since doing it so early is always a silly thing to do. Changing from a winger to a false 9 like Bobby looks like it may be a master stroke. He’s starting to get confident and performances have massively improved.

[Salty Dog]

Is there anybody with Cody’s combination of attributes in this league? Or anywhere?

Perhaps similar to when Yaya Toure would play as a 10 for Abu Dahbi. The height/strength/athleticism/technique combination is quite rare.

[Cheesy Peas]

He needs a song... a really good one.

Cocody Rock by Alpha Blondy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiasxQqhiWE

Co co, co co, Cody Gakpo
Co co, co co, a goal scoring master

Co co, co co, Cody Gakpo
Co co, co co, a big handsome b@stard

[AmanShah21]

The lack of time and patience afforded to Nunez and Gakpo by some this season has been almost unbelievable. I suppose it's just the way society is these days though. Too many expect everything, and they expect it now. Little or no time is given for players to settle and bed in. Little or no time afforded them to develop understandings with teammates and adapt to new surroundings and ways of playing.

Too many expect robots, not human beings.

Its not just Nunez and Gakpo, the crap that came for Harvey is still going on. There's a genuine lack of patience. There's this newer breed of fans, especially on social media that want us to be like Chelsea wherein I cannot fathom a universe where I'll be okay with that. Players take time, some moves dont work out and that's normal, but to me, as long as a player is still here, if you are one of the people saying stuff like "get out of my club","*** is a disgrace to the club", etc. for just having a poor game, then in my eyes, you are supporting the wrong club because that is just never okay.

[Lycan]

That was by far his best game for us. He's been playing well recently, hopefully he can push on from here.

[Historical Fool]

Anyone else wondering why Liverpool have brought tall strikers?

Cody and Darwin looking to form the next front line for us in the coming years, and both absolute goliaths. Diaz ain't short either.

Are the stat gurus or Klopp seeing a trend in the game towards big speedy men up front being the norm for top class sides? As the game becomes ever faster and more physical, does this indicate us ensuring we keep up with the changing game?

One thing I noticed yesterday was just how physical Cody looked, overcoming constant haranguing and pressing from a few Man Utd players at one time. Didn't look phased, and contributed to our goals. A sign of things to come for striker lineups?

Maybe he’s fed up of getting a crick in his neck looking down at short players.

[jepovic]

Some people arent sold on Salah either. LFC has a lot of fans.

[RyanBabel19]

as if the 'pass numbers' is being wheeled out again!

What is it he's played, 8 games? Is patience really this dead in football now

Sublime in that game and I dare not mention his link up play for fear of being bombarded with statistics

Credit to Carragher, he's become very irritating in the last few years but his little analysis on Gakpos role in that game was a nice watch

[rolla]

Anyone else wondering why Liverpool have brought tall strikers?

Cody and Darwin looking to form the next front line for us in the coming years, and both absolute goliaths. Diaz ain't short either.

Are the stat gurus or Klopp seeing a trend in the game towards big speedy men up front being the norm for top class sides? As the game becomes ever faster and more physical, does this indicate us ensuring we keep up with the changing game?

One thing I noticed yesterday was just how physical Cody looked, overcoming constant haranguing and pressing from a few Man Utd players at one time. Didn't look phased, and contributed to our goals. A sign of things to come for striker lineups?

Darwin is powerful, a physical monster. With that said he seems about at the midpoint height wise for srikers.

[Zlen]

I was pretty impressed with his contribution after watching the highlights, but much more so after seeing the whole game. He was omnipresent, pressed very hard, demonstrated excellent composure and unexpected speed. Probably our second best player on the pitch after Mo who was unplayable. Impressive game, just stay fit and sky is the limit.

[FlashGordon]

Darwin is powerful, a physical monster. With that said he seems about at the midpoint height wise for srikers.

He's 6ft 2in, that hasn't been the midpoint height wise for strikers since the mid 2000s 

[Mister Flip Flop]

I've been waiting to see a finish like he had for the first. He strikes the ball so cleanly.

Oddly enough, his overall play wasn't that great in my opinion, but when you can score those two goals, who really cares?

You are joking right? His all round play has been brilliant for a lad just settling into a new team and system.

[stockdam]

Gakpo is a surprisingly quick player who can cover a lot of ground with ease. He is strong when he has the ball and once he beats a player he leaves them for dead. His touch and skill is up there with the best and he’s going to be a big hit.

[rolla]

He's 6ft 2in, that hasn't been the midpoint height wise for strikers since the mid 2000s 

It might well not be the midpoint but I just don't think of Darwin as particularly tall,  nor do I think it's as outdated as you suggest.
Haaland, Weghorst, Isak, Mitrovic, Edouard, Havertz, Wood, Ferguson, Wellbeck, Solanke,  Calvert Lewin, Kane, Onuachu, Gakpo, Jimenez all seem taller or about the same height.  There are likely more (and no doubt plenty who are shorter of course)

He's about the height of Torres, who I never thought as a particularly tall striker.  It's all relative though and probably not that important  .

Anyway, it's the Gakpo thread and he is tall.  The question I quoted about whether or not we are seeking out taller forwards deliberately is a valid/interesting one (and one I don't really know the answer to).

[SamLad]

as if the 'pass numbers' is being wheeled out again!

What is it he's played, 8 games? Is patience really this dead in football now

Sublime in that game and I dare not mention his link up play for fear of being bombarded with statistics

Credit to Carragher, he's become very irritating in the last few years but his little analysis on Gakpos role in that game was a nice watch

I don't see it as just patience though -- some ppl lose their shit if every single player we bring in isn't
(a) best in the world in their position
(b) a total game changer
(c) flawless in every game.

the level of entitlement is ludicrous.  we could field a team consisting of every legend we've ever had - in their pure prime - and some twats would whinge nonstop. 

it'd be really amusing if it wasn't so annoying and pathetic.

[SamLad]

He's 6ft 2in, that hasn't been the midpoint height wise for strikers since the mid 2000s 

you might be 100% correct, but I'm curious where you got that stat from? 

[Slippers]

I don't see it as just patience though -- some ppl lose their shit if every single player we bring in isn't
(a) best in the world in their position
(b) a total game changer
(c) flawless in every game.

the level of entitlement is ludicrous.  we could field a team consisting of every legend we've ever had - in their pure prime - and some twats would whinge nonstop. 

it'd be really amusing if it wasn't so annoying and pathetic.

No hat trick on his debut?


'He had his chance and he blew it'.

[FlashGordon]

It might well not be the midpoint but I just don't think of Darwin as particularly tall,  nor do I think it's as outdated as you suggest.
Haaland, Weghorst, Isak, Mitrovic, Edouard, Havertz, Wood, Ferguson, Wellbeck, Solanke,  Calvert Lewin, Kane, Onuachu, Gakpo, Jimenez all seem taller or about the same height.  There are likely more (and no doubt plenty who are shorter of course)

He's about the height of Torres, who I never thought as a particularly tall striker.  It's all relative though and probably not that important  .

Anyway, it's the Gakpo thread and he is tall.  The question I quoted about whether or not we are seeking out taller forwards deliberately is a valid/interesting one (and one I don't really know the answer to).

Well obviously if you pick out all the tall strikers in the league then he's going to be around the same height as them  There's countless shortarses playing upfront as well 

[FlashGordon]

you might be 100% correct, but I'm curious where you got that stat from? 

From my arse. Just look around the leagues, plenty shortarses playing upfront.

[RedSince86]

Bonafide replacement for Firmino straight away is brilliant recruitment, has all the tools as the false 9.

Going to be so exciting watching another Klopp team being built before our eyes whatever the outcome this season I'm feeling excited again like it's going to be summer 2016 again when Klopp signed Mane, Gini and Matip, we are going to be so fucking good these next 3-4 seasons under Klopp.

[SamLad]

From my arse. Just look around the leagues, plenty shortarses playing upfront.

yet you state it like it's a fact. 

[FlashGordon]

yet you state it like it's a fact. 

Countering another ''fact'' that was plucked from another arse.

[SamLad]

Countering another ''fact'' that was plucked from another arse.

ok got it. 

RAWK should have an automatic "arse fact" smiley. 

[Black Bull Nova]

I'll go as far as to say I believe some posters in this forum don't appear to have a future here, I can't see what talents they bring and what their contribution might be in the future. I may be wrong so what I will do is wait until they display their full potential and then I may comment further.