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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #80 on: September 8, 2015, 08:02:40 pm »
I would've done fabulous things for this country.

Yes Pablo, that is the saddest part.


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We are nothing alike, you are a criminal Pablo and criminals can't run forever.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #81 on: September 9, 2015, 04:45:52 am »
I would've done fabulous things for this country.

Yes Pablo, that is the saddest part.


You and me, we're alike.

We are nothing alike, you are a criminal Pablo and criminals can't run forever.

Was that at the end with the vice minister? The one he took hostage?

Anyway, may be the issue is the writing, but I thought the President betrayed that vice minister. Sending him, and essentially leaving him there to rot as a hostage. The way it is shown, it would have been the President's mistake if the guy died. They stormed the prison anyway in the end.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #82 on: September 9, 2015, 09:06:48 am »
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The president send his vice minister there knowing that the military guy who was there already would have Pablo in custody or something. He didn't want his right hand to be inside the prison. After that happened, he had to make a difficult decision.

Anyway. Lovely series. Guy who plays Escobar was very good. Escobar became paranoid after some point. As it was said, once he got the taste of murder, he wouldn't stop. Horrible scum that wouldn't hesitate to kill babies. Didn't like the DEA agent. They could have found a better actor for starters. Pena is fine. CIA c*nts will be c*nts as always.

How many episodes are they gonna film before Escobar's end? Don't know his story in details but I guess we're in the last months of his life so I hope they don't drag it much.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #83 on: September 9, 2015, 12:08:54 pm »
Watched 2 episodes last night. Quality start.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #84 on: September 9, 2015, 12:56:42 pm »
Watched 2 episodes last night. Quality start.
I'm also 2 episodes in and agree quality.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #85 on: September 9, 2015, 12:57:56 pm »
Finished this last night, it's bloody excellent. Consistently brilliant throughout.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #87 on: September 9, 2015, 01:56:19 pm »
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #88 on: September 10, 2015, 01:43:25 am »
One more episode to go, just knocked off six on the bounce. Top stuff, gets better as it goes on. Pablo, you son of a bitch.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #89 on: September 10, 2015, 12:04:49 pm »
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #90 on: September 10, 2015, 12:35:48 pm »
One more episode to go, just knocked off six on the bounce. Top stuff, gets better as it goes on. Pablo, you son of a bitch.

Not surprised you had to post after episode 9 KK

It really was a mad fucking episode with Pablo totally losing the plot.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2015, 12:52:11 pm »
Not surprised you had to post after episode 9 KK

It really was a mad fucking episode with Pablo totally losing the plot.
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He's starting to become a bit of a pathetic figure with that scrapbook, probably over stepped the mark a bit blowing up that plane as well. Both sides are fucking up quite a bit, the stuff that bugged me at the start is washing over me now.
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« Reply #92 on: September 10, 2015, 12:59:10 pm »
Up to episode 4. Fucking fantastic so far.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #93 on: September 10, 2015, 05:30:54 pm »
Spent the last week or so watching this. Really good. I only had a rough overview of the era and, to be honest, knew little about Pablo Escobar. But, fuck me, some of the shenanigans that went on in Columbia at the time were just jaw-dropping. If this was written as straight fiction, it would be seem unbelievable, laughable and far fetched. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Nothing like Miami Vice!  ;D
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #94 on: September 10, 2015, 07:01:24 pm »
Was that at the end with the vice minister? The one he took hostage?

Anyway, may be the issue is the writing, but I thought the President betrayed that vice minister. Sending him, and essentially leaving him there to rot as a hostage. The way it is shown, it would have been the President's mistake if the guy died. They stormed the prison anyway in the end.

The first one is with the daughter of the ex-president he kidnapped.

The second one was with the vice minister. I don't think he back-stabbed him at all, circumstances didn't turn out as expected. They summed it up perfectly in the moment Pablo tried to turn Eduardo only for him to grin and say "I'd have done the same Pablo".

Loved Gustavo laughing like a maniac when they were beating the crap out of him " We are bandits not snitches".

Netflix are gunning for HBO's head and the distribution manner of their next move is ruffling a lot of bigwigs. Roll on Beasts of No Nation.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #95 on: September 10, 2015, 07:02:31 pm »
Gonna get stuck into this tonight. Really looking forward to it.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #96 on: September 10, 2015, 08:03:47 pm »
Notorious drug lord Pablo Escobar lost $2.1 billion in cash each year — and it didn't matter
Business Insider By Amanda Macias
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Pablo Escobar

At the peak of his power, infamous Medellín cartel boss Pablo Escobar brought in an estimated $420 million a week in revenue, easily making him one of the wealthiest drug lords in history.
Escobar, known as the "king of cocaine," saw his wealth grow so immense that he stashed piles of cash in Colombian farming fields, dilapidated warehouses, and in the walls of cartel members' homes, according to Roberto Escobar, the cartel's chief accountant and the kingpin's brother, in his book, "The Accountant's Story: Inside the violent world of the Medellín cartel."

"Pablo was earning so much that each year we would write off 10% of the money because the rats would eat it in storage or it would be damaged by water or lost," Escobar wrote.

That would be about $2.1 billion, given how much money he was reportedly making.

Escobar simply had more money than he knew to do with, and therefore haphazardly losing money to rodents and mold wasn't an issue.

According to a 2009 Don Juan magazine interview with Escobar's only son, Juan Pablo Escobar, who has since changed his name to Sebastian Marroqui­n, claimed that his father once torched $2 million crisp banknotes in order to keep his family warm while they were on the run, The Telegraph reports.

While hiding or destroying the exorbitant amount of money was one issue, the brothers faced another much more elementary problem — neatly organizing the banknotes.

According to Escobar, the cartel spent an estimated $2,500 a month on rubber bands needed to hold stacks of bills together.

At the height of his power, Escobar's cartel supplied 80% of the world's cocaine and smuggled 15 tons of cocaine into the US per day.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/legendary-drug-lord-pablo-escobar-175200772.html

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #97 on: September 10, 2015, 08:11:47 pm »
Just started it 3 days ago and already finished the first season.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #98 on: September 10, 2015, 08:18:48 pm »
Notorious drug lord Pablo Escobar lost $2.1 billion in cash each year — and it didn't matter
Business Insider By Amanda Macias
1 hour ago
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Pablo Escobar

At the peak of his power, infamous Medellín cartel boss Pablo Escobar brought in an estimated $420 million a week in revenue, easily making him one of the wealthiest drug lords in history.
Escobar, known as the "king of cocaine," saw his wealth grow so immense that he stashed piles of cash in Colombian farming fields, dilapidated warehouses, and in the walls of cartel members' homes, according to Roberto Escobar, the cartel's chief accountant and the kingpin's brother, in his book, "The Accountant's Story: Inside the violent world of the Medellín cartel."

"Pablo was earning so much that each year we would write off 10% of the money because the rats would eat it in storage or it would be damaged by water or lost," Escobar wrote.

That would be about $2.1 billion, given how much money he was reportedly making.

Escobar simply had more money than he knew to do with, and therefore haphazardly losing money to rodents and mold wasn't an issue.

According to a 2009 Don Juan magazine interview with Escobar's only son, Juan Pablo Escobar, who has since changed his name to Sebastian Marroqui­n, claimed that his father once torched $2 million crisp banknotes in order to keep his family warm while they were on the run, The Telegraph reports.

While hiding or destroying the exorbitant amount of money was one issue, the brothers faced another much more elementary problem — neatly organizing the banknotes.

According to Escobar, the cartel spent an estimated $2,500 a month on rubber bands needed to hold stacks of bills together.

At the height of his power, Escobar's cartel supplied 80% of the world's cocaine and smuggled 15 tons of cocaine into the US per day.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/legendary-drug-lord-pablo-escobar-175200772.html
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #99 on: September 10, 2015, 08:37:18 pm »
The GM Motors and rubber band stories are my favourite insane Escobar wealth titbit's.

There must be millions still buried in the Columbian jungle. 

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2015, 09:31:21 pm »
Went through this in two nights hate that we have to wait for the next series but feel like I could watch it all again will be things I missed

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2015, 09:40:54 pm »
Sorry but if this has been covered but isn't the leave off point on the first series pretty far down the line in the Escobar story chronologically wise? What's really left to fill a supposedly 10-episode second series?

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2015, 09:55:08 pm »
Sorry but if this has been covered but isn't the leave off point on the first series pretty far down the line in the Escobar story chronologically wise? What's really left to fill a supposedly 10-episode second series?
I am hoping they don't drag out his end, and make a very diluted second season.

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« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2015, 09:57:45 pm »
I am hoping they don't drag out his end, and make a very diluted second season.
They will have to. Politically, with the right wing paras getting involved, it should make for some interesting viewing.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2015, 10:38:03 pm »
Sorry but if this has been covered but isn't the leave off point on the first series pretty far down the line in the Escobar story chronologically wise? What's really left to fill a supposedly 10-episode second series?
I don't think the show is specifically only Escobar. I haven't seen it titled Narcos - The Pablo Escobar story anywhere but here. So i'd imagine we'd be seeing a lot more of the Cali Cartel

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« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2015, 11:23:15 pm »
Finished episode 4 and finding it very enjoyable. Love the mix of acting and actual footage.

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« Reply #106 on: September 10, 2015, 11:35:21 pm »
Finished episode 4 and finding it very enjoyable. Love the mix of acting and actual footage.
Know this sounds wrong but your watching it get caught up and start rooting for Pablo then they show the footage of what he done and it knocks you that this man was a terrorist murderer drug kingpin amongst other things

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« Reply #107 on: September 10, 2015, 11:49:37 pm »
Know this sounds wrong but your watching it get caught up and start rooting for Pablo then they show the footage of what he done and it knocks you that this man was a terrorist murderer drug kingpin amongst other things
I have the same issue with a lot of 'gangster' shit, including Breaking Bad. You are not alone.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #108 on: September 11, 2015, 02:12:56 am »
The GM Motors and rubber band stories are my favourite insane Escobar wealth titbit's.

There must be millions still buried in the Columbian jungle. 
what was the GM Motors thing?



And on a broader note, I had no idea powdered Cocaine wasn't a thing until forty years ago. you live and learn.

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« Reply #109 on: September 11, 2015, 11:55:06 am »
what was the GM Motors thing?



And on a broader note, I had no idea powdered Cocaine wasn't a thing until forty years ago. you live and learn.

Something about him making more money per day than GM Motors ($65m per day!!)

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #110 on: September 11, 2015, 12:12:10 pm »
what was the GM Motors thing?
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« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2015, 02:26:34 pm »
Boss show. I knew very little on Escobar so its been a great ride for me, now that I'm through the season I've googled a lot of stuff and am surprised by just how much of what happened in the show was true. Definitely need to get one of the books on him purchased.

As far as the show goes, I really liked the characters of Pena and Carrillo.

Spoilers for what will happen in the future of the show..

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They covered many years in season 1 and took us up to 1992, Escobar was killed in 1993. Are we thinking that after the second season they'll move on to a different story, ala True Detective, or what?
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2015, 04:29:16 pm »
Sorry but if this has been covered but isn't the leave off point on the first series pretty far down the line in the Escobar story chronologically wise? What's really left to fill a supposedly 10-episode second series?
I hope season 2 will be mostly about the Cali cartel who were more powerful and wealthier,that's if there isn't much left to the Escobar storyline.
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« Reply #113 on: September 12, 2015, 04:30:59 pm »
Something about him making more money per day than GM Motors ($65m per day!!)
Madness.

Also i wonder if there is still money scattered around farmland in Colombia where some of his money is buried that hasn't been found. ;D
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2015, 04:34:55 pm »
I hope season 2 will be mostly about the Cali cartel who were more powerful and wealthier,that's if there isn't much left to the Escobar storyline.

I'm thoroughly enjoying the series, I really am. I'm not much of a binge watcher, I'm boring in a way that I'll watch one or two episodes at a time and then wait a couple of days. I'll often watch some episodes again before moving onto the next one to make sure I haven't missed anything. With this though I rattled through 4 last night, which is nothing to many people but for me it shows how good it is.

The one issue I have, if I can call it that, is that they've perhaps wasted a lot of potential material. The Escobar rise to the top is documented very rapidly, and I just feel that they could have made this a much deeper series. If they go down the True Detective route then it makes sense, but given the Story of Escobar they could have stretched his story out over a number of series and not lost any of the drama because Escobar's story is a very chilling but good one to tell. They seem to have documented a period of almost 15 years in just a few episodes, and while it's excellent for what it is I just think they might have missed a trick.

Not complaining in general, just an observation. But it's a truly fantastic series.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2015, 05:00:32 pm »
Watched the first episode last night.
Like a 5kg package, I'm sold.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #116 on: September 13, 2015, 12:44:03 am »
I seem to be very much in the minority but I think this is quite poor. The story itself is incredible which is what holds it together somewhat. Is the voiceover needed for absolutely everything? The show offers no insight into the story or adds nothing new but just rattles from scene to scene playing out the story in sterile fashion. Just seemed very paint by numbers without any interesting angles.The stupidity with which it treats the viewer also got tiring very quickly. I realise a certain amount of exposition is required but the voiceover reads like an audio book constantly explaining and pointing out what is going on.

Outside of Escobar very few of the characters are realised in any meaningful way which means its hard to give a shit about much of what is happening when I cared so little about the characters. The worst is when they don't even attempt to allow you to get to know the characters in any organic way but instead have the voiceover introduce him and his/her history and importance to the story, felt like I was reading wikepdia. Disappointed as it is an amazing story that could have been so much more.

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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #117 on: September 13, 2015, 01:10:06 am »
I seem to be very much in the minority but I think this is quite poor. The story itself is incredible which is what holds it together somewhat. Is the voiceover needed for absolutely everything? The show offers no insight into the story or adds nothing new but just rattles from scene to scene playing out the story in sterile fashion. Just seemed very paint by numbers without any interesting angles.The stupidity with which it treats the viewer also got tiring very quickly. I realise a certain amount of exposition is required but the voiceover reads like an audio book constantly explaining and pointing out what is going on.

Outside of Escobar very few of the characters are realised in any meaningful way which means its hard to give a shit about much of what is happening when I cared so little about the characters. The worst is when they don't even attempt to allow you to get to know the characters in any organic way but instead have the voiceover introduce him and his/her history and importance to the story, felt like I was reading wikepdia. Disappointed as it is an amazing story that could have been so much more.
Sounds like you just have an issue with the voice over.

Personally, I'd rather have a voice over explain certain scenarios to the viewer than some cheesy, shithouse dialogue being created to accomplish what the voice over can do simply and within the confines of the story.
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #118 on: September 13, 2015, 02:44:19 am »
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Re: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2015, 03:47:59 am »
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The DEA can go f themselves.
Loved the show, one of the first of hopefully many not tainted with American jingoism
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Finished the show. Fking fantastic all round. They've gone so fast though and maybe Season 2 will shift the focus onto the Cali cartel?
reckon it will be more about Los pepes/him trying to get his family out of Colombia and his death,,season 3 should be about Cali, far more interesting story