Topic: Netflix's Narcos - The Pablo Escobar Story

[Igor Tripod Biscan]

Good show apart from the 'lead' US actor - his narration and 'bad ass' character feels like he's 'ACTING' - the rest feel much more natural

Will still watch the hell out of it - whatever that means

[Aggers-Elbow]

Anyone know what time it's coming onto Netflix? Just finished a night shift and readyou for a good old Narcos binge in me skids

Just found out its 12AM PDT so should be on at 8Am UK

[Nutella]

New Pablo is here!!!!!! 

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I like the ending of this, was very happy.

[JoeCole]

Season 2, Episode 4 spoilers

Spoiler

I was under the impression that Carrillo was based on Hugo Martinez?? (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/02/the-man-who-brought-down-pablo-escobar.html) So he should not have been killed and lived to be involved in the final firefight with Escobar, and beyond. My favourite character in the show.

Brilliant episode though.

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[Yiannis]

3 episodes in, at its gruesome best, good pace, haven't got bored a single moment. May it continue.

[slamjam]

We all know the ending for escobar and it was deserved. Hope this not taken wrong way but I feel sorry for the on screen version we are watching sounds stupid.

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[Sarge]

3 episodes in, at its gruesome best, good pace, haven't got bored a single moment. May it continue.

Good good goood, couple of things to finish then S2 here i come.

[stoa]

We all know the ending for escobar and it was deserved. Hope this not taken wrong way but I feel sorry for the on screen version we are watching sounds stupid.

Haven't watched the second series yet, but in the first one they did a great job making him someone you can kind of like. However, there are also scenes where he comes across as the scumbag he actually was.

[slamjam]

Haven't watched the second series yet, but in the first one they did a great job making him someone you can kind of like. However, there are also scenes where he comes across as the scumbag he actually was.

When it's the make believe escobar he does have a charisma that makes you like him but the next second they splice it with the real footage of his aftermath. It's weird one sec you are backing him and the next your like evil scumbag.

[Craig S]

That is a great Easter egg at the end of S2 E10. Not really a spoiler but will put it in a tag

Spoiler

The 2 guys at the American bar that cheers at the news, are the real Pena and Murphy.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/UDd63

http://i.imgur.com/sbgn9Ml.mp4

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[Yiannis]

^^Yeah thought so. Was like almost a glimpse of them.

Finished the binge viewing last night. As I said previously, it was pretty good. Personally I didn't even come close to kind of like Escobar cause I never forgot  the fact he was a scumbag and hypocrite. Not even in the intimate moments of his with his family I felt that. The original footage was a great decision from the start.
 
PS:The narration became a bit better yet it still had the same problems that have already been mentioned.

Spoiler

I would have thought they would have ended it there but the focus is on Cali cartel now in case they get the green light for a third season

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[ElCapo]

What an amazing show.  Binge watched in a couple of days, worth it all.

[.adam]

Spoiler

I was under the impression that Carrillo was based on Hugo Martinez?? (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/02/the-man-who-brought-down-pablo-escobar.html) So he should not have been killed and lived to be involved in the final firefight with Escobar, and beyond. My favourite character in the show.
Brilliant episode though.

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Spoiler

Much of the show is dramatised or slightly altered from true events.

La Quica was actually captured in New York and is currently serving life plus 45 years.

Virginia Vallejo (the real name of the TV host) was transported by the DEA to the US where she testified in many trials. She now lives in America.

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[Craig S]

Season 2, Episode 4 spoilers

Spoiler

I was under the impression that Carrillo was based on Hugo Martinez?? (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/02/the-man-who-brought-down-pablo-escobar.html) So he should not have been killed and lived to be involved in the final firefight with Escobar, and beyond. My favourite character in the show.

Brilliant episode though.

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Spoiler

Carrillo was fictional. They couldn't really depict Martinez, a real life character, executing children and throwing suspects from helicopters.  Search Bloc was only formed in 1992, so the timings for the show Martinez are still in line with that.

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[Sir Psycho Sexy]

Been renewed for 2 more seasons ... looks like they're looking into the Cali cartel

[KERRYKOP]

One of my mates watched the lot Saturday night, I think that's a waste to be honest. Pure gluttony, what's wrong with giving a handful of episodes time to digest.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

http://www.facebook.com/JuanPabloEscobarHenao

Escobars son having a go at the show over its inaccuracies, his book is out in English and is a good read, as is his sins of my father film from a few years back

[ElCapo]

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgXpnfw6Wk

renewed for 2 more seasons

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The Cali Cartel was more business minded and less violent when possible in carrying out their business. Escobar made headlines because he was a mass murderer and wasn't afraid to show it. Pablo = the original narcoterrorist

[moondog]

http://www.facebook.com/JuanPabloEscobarHenao

Escobars son having a go at the show over its inaccuracies, his book is out in English and is a good read, as is his sins of my father film from a few years back

Check out the jeans and t shirts henao has produced to honour his father , the money goes to his victims apparently. No doubt we will all be rocking Escobar denim when going the game soon...

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Check out the jeans and t shirts henao has produced to honour his father , the money goes to his victims apparently. No doubt we will all be rocking Escobar denim when going the game soon...

its not honouring his father though, it's based on some pictures of his dad with messages of peace on it, probably knew full well that people sell stuff like that of his dad anyway (t shirts of that mugshot of him) so may as well get some of that

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgXpnfw6Wk

renewed for 2 more seasons

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The Cali Cartel was more business minded and less violent when possible in carrying out their business. Escobar made headlines because he was a mass murderer and wasn't afraid to show it. Pablo = the original narcoterrorist

wonder if they will depict the meetings escobars wife and son had with them after Pablo died, would be good. Don't think there are any English language documentaries on the Cali cartel anyway, only two books I can think of (at the Devils table is excellent though)

[Lawnmowerman]

wonder if they will depict the meetings escobars wife and son had with them after Pablo died, would be good.

Spoiler

They already did

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[Raaphael]

I wonder if they will do anything on "El Chapo".

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I wonder if they will do anything on "El Chapo".

until he's extradited to the states I doubt that happens

[Flaccid Bobby Fowler]

That is a great Easter egg at the end of S2 E10. Not really a spoiler but will put it in a tag

Spoiler

The 2 guys at the American bar that cheers at the news, are the real Pena and Murphy.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/UDd63

http://i.imgur.com/sbgn9Ml.mp4

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[DangerScouse]

8 episodes into Season 2, top quality.

[Seebab]

Amazing show. Really. It's so good. I actually thought Season 2 was better than Season 1 and didn't think that would be possible. Maybe it's because they had more time to drag out Pablo's character. The episodes with Carillo were top notch. Superb character.

[slamjam]

Finally seen last 2 episodes what a show to me Netflix are on to a winner here move on to cali cartel and then have the Mexican cartels after that.

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[dalarr]

RE Pablo's character development.

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I love the fact that you almost felt sorry for him towards the end. The scenes on his fathers farm, where he suddenly became a normal farmer's son. You could sense the peace and tranquility he experienced there.
Secondly, the episode where he takes the cab and goes into town to buy rolling papers. Just walking around, eating an ice cream, mixing with the other people.

Then you suddenly remember all the shit he's done. The airplane bombing, the downtown bomb, 1000s of families destroyed by pain and loss. And hanging out with pieces of shits like Limon and that La Quica quilt

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[moondog]

Keep hoping to see Curtis Warren pop up with a "calm down Pablo kidder I'll sort ye out",  great role for one of the mcganns maybe.

[Fordy]

Truely amazing acting by Wagner Moura

Deserves awards for that performance.

[JURGENKLOPP]

Started watching this the other night and am onto the second series now. Really fascinating stuff, even when knowing much of the story already and especially after having spent some time in Colombia myself.

I'd recommend reading Gabriel Garcia Marquez's 'News of Kidnapping' if you want to get a good idea of a lot of what happens in the first series from another one of Colombia's most famous sons.

[The G in Gerrard]

Up to episode 2 of season 2 - no drop in quality.

[west_london_red]

RE Pablo's character development.

Spoiler

I love the fact that you almost felt sorry for him towards the end. The scenes on his fathers farm, where he suddenly became a normal farmer's son. You could sense the peace and tranquility he experienced there.
Secondly, the episode where he takes the cab and goes into town to buy rolling papers. Just walking around, eating an ice cream, mixing with the other people.

Then you suddenly remember all the shit he's done. The airplane bombing, the downtown bomb, 1000s of families destroyed by pain and loss. And hanging out with pieces of shits like Limon and that La Quica quilt

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The sympathy for Escobar for me comes from some of the less then legal methods employed by the DEA and Search block and the assistance and blind eye that is turned to actions of Los Pepes and Cali who are in reality no better then Escobar. Without wanting to derail the thread too much, for me its hard not to see this in the same light as some of other US foreign master strokes where in trying to destroy one monster they just create another more uglier one.

[west_london_red]

Finally seen last 2 episodes what a show to me Netflix are on to a winner here move on to cali cartel and then have the Mexican cartels after that.

[Nobody cares what phone you have and that you are using the free version of Tapatalk]

I have the last two episodes left to watch but its clear where its going, the lady who manages Murphy and Pena and her line about the bombing in Cali and the fact that coke production was growing even though Escobar was on the run kind of gave it away.

[Fiasco]

I've still got a couple of episodes to watch and the second series is just as good as the first, there is no drop off in quality at all. They missed a trick with this series though in how they've squeezed so much in in such a small space of time. They really could have shown the rise of Pablo over a season or two and then went on to when he hit the big time.

Also, the 'dramatization' is actually quite unnecessary. More than enough happened in real life for them to have to exaggerate and depict things that simply didn't happen. Something is taken away from the show for me, they really should have just stuck to the facts and it would have been just as interesting. On the whole though it's a very entertaining and well made show, if a little misleading in parts.

[Bangin Them In]

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgXpnfw6Wk

renewed for 2 more seasons

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The Cali Cartel was more business minded and less violent when possible in carrying out their business. Escobar made headlines because he was a mass murderer and wasn't afraid to show it. Pablo = the original narcoterrorist

Subtitle The Blow Must Go On

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[Isaacsways]

What a tv show this is.....

[west_london_red]

I've still got a couple of episodes to watch and the second series is just as good as the first, there is no drop off in quality at all. They missed a trick with this series though in how they've squeezed so much in in such a small space of time. They really could have shown the rise of Pablo over a season or two and then went on to when he hit the big time.

Also, the 'dramatization' is actually quite unnecessary. More than enough happened in real life for them to have to exaggerate and depict things that simply didn't happen. Something is taken away from the show for me, they really should have just stuck to the facts and it would have been just as interesting. On the whole though it's a very entertaining and well made show, if a little misleading in parts.

Agree, I have read both Escobars brother and sons book and there was more then enough events and interesting material in there that they could have stuck closer to the actual story with no loss in entertainment value. The only thing I can assume is that some of the departures from actual events is to set the show up for season 3, while I don't know much about what happened with the war on drugs post Escobar I cannot image it's as interesting as Escobars story so will need some sexing up possibly.

[slamjam]

Agree, I have read both Escobars brother and sons book and there was more then enough events and interesting material in there that they could have stuck closer to the actual story with no loss in entertainment value. The only thing I can assume is that some of the departures from actual events is to set the show up for season 3, while I don't know much about what happened with the war on drugs post Escobar I cannot image it's as interesting as Escobars story so will need some sexing up possibly.

With way they shown cali cartel don't think they need to show how they were under radar compared to Pablo. And with doing it can show more would love to see more in depth of how it worth more the closer the coke gets to America