Topic: Draft Towers

[Betty Blue]

I was probably in until I saw this.

It was just a suggestion, mate. I doubt it will be in the final rules.

[Hazell]

Just to change the mood around here a bit. What if we make a 90's movie draft? You got to pick 7 movies, on 7 different genres or categories. Then, if people liked it, we can do the other decades.

Who's in?

Lin, I guess you're tall enough to enjoy cinema? 

I like having different genres, if we can all agree on them. Maybe a wildcard genre as well which would give a bit of leeway if people really want to pick a particular film.

[El Lobo]

Out! I don't like movies. Even at six years old I protested successfully to have a cinema trip cancelled Since that was in the 90s that makes it even better of a story.

[Linudden]

You should treat your friends a bit better Lobo

[Crosby Nick]

Out! I don't like movies. Even at six years old I protested successfully to have a cinema trip cancelled

Contagion?

[Lastrador]

I like the non-top 250 suggestion as well, though I was thinking all actors. It'll give some spice to the late rounds and we won't have to spend time arguing about who's a lead and who isn't. Either idea would make things more interesting.

You see, I think that will be a tad harsh to implement. We can't expect everyone to make a full-on research of every movie's cast, to see if there are some repeated names. Although I agree it can get a bit confusing in some cases, what's a lead and what's not. In those cases, I'll make a judgment call. 

I like having different genres, if we can all agree on them. Maybe a wildcard genre as well which would give a bit of leeway if people really want to pick a particular film.

Yeah, that's the idea. Although I'm thinking of dividing the 7 picks into multi-genre categories, to be less restrictive. I'll put up a thread shortly where we can discuss these things.

[Linudden]

Contagion?

Pippi Longstocking, the animated version. Since I was six years old, my parents thought I'd be all-in for it, as a matter of fact I wasn't!

[Barneylfc∗]

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[Drinks Sangria]

Anyone up for a football draft once the movie one is finished?

[Crosby Nick]

Anyone up for a football draft once the movie one is finished?

Ridiculous idea.

[Linudden]

I figured we could do a 'Cheese Draft' either in Britain or Italy.

The criteria are simple: You need to select players for 11 clubs they have played for in the country we select (including Scotland and all-time not just PL era if we do Britain and all-time straight up for Italy).

The players are judged for their prime/full careers, not for the club they get picked.

One league appearance for the selected club is enough to encourage cheesy picks in effect Gullit and Weah for Chelsea or people going on loan to smaller clubs in their youth and so forth. The only thing not allowed is amateur league picks since that is much more difficult to verify.

I think taking a straight up cheese mindset from the get-go and roll with it could lead to something really funny

[RobbieRedman]

sounds good, Spain could be an option too

[Elzar]

I figured we could do a 'Cheese Draft' either in Britain or Italy.

The criteria are simple: You need to select players for 11 clubs they have played for in the country we select (including Scotland and all-time not just PL era if we do Britain and all-time straight up for Italy).

The players are judged for their prime/full careers, not for the club they get picked.

One league appearance for the selected club is enough to encourage cheesy picks in effect Gullit and Weah for Chelsea or people going on loan to smaller clubs in their youth and so forth. The only thing not allowed is amateur league picks since that is much more difficult to verify.

I think taking a straight up cheese mindset from the get-go and roll with it could lead to something really funny

Could potentially make it very interesting at the start, by getting players to secretly select their picking league

Say for example everyone had to choose 2 leagues to select players from. They all then message a none competing person with their 2 leagues and they are then locked on them 2, no matter who else others have chosen. So you could end up with 12 people picking from Italy and just 2 from Germany for example

[Linudden]

I think everyone going with a level playing field makes it a lot more interesting and those are the drafts I thoroughly enjoy the most Basically not knowing who the drafters ahead of you can pick makes it more unpredictable. Spain and Germany have lower draft capital in them from general experience. Especially for something like this due to players seldom going to those countries to finish their careers.

Personally I'd go for Britain for everyone since to my knowledge we've never had an all-time Football League draft. Bit of a journey into that and Scotland but with some mad picks included! Also fits in well with the league starting right about now.

Italy is an excellent plan B but if going for Spain I'd prefer if we include Portugal for a full Iberian Cheese Draft so that Benfica, Porto and Sporting finally get some drafting love

[Betty Blue]

So would we only be picking cheesy players? i.e. Picking Suarez at Liverpool is off limits because he was obviously incredible for us. If it's only a case of 'encouraging' cheesy picks then it would surely just devolve into a run of the mill all-time draft.

[Elzar]

So would we only be picking cheesy players? i.e. Picking Suarez at Liverpool is off limits because he was obviously incredible for us. If it's only a case of 'encouraging' cheesy picks then it would surely just devolve into a run of the mill all-time draft.

This was my thinking, won't it just be an all time English football draft? Only way you could push the cheesey picks is to allow picks from anywhere in the world, but players must have less than 15 appearances for one of their teams.

[Linudden]

So would we only be picking cheesy players? i.e. Picking Suarez at Liverpool is off limits because he was obviously incredible for us. If it's only a case of 'encouraging' cheesy picks then it would surely just devolve into a run of the mill all-time draft.

Encouragement. That being said, there's a tactical element involved. Peter Beardsley played for Hartlepool for example. That means you can tick off the Hartlepool box as a selected club to save the big clubs for later so you can use the pool of the large English clubs for last. That's part of making the 11 club aspect quite cheesy too Players who also played for a smaller club get very high value.

We could just call it '11 British clubs no criteria draft' too but maybe doesn't sound as exotic

[Betty Blue]

Encouragement. That being said, there's a tactical element involved. Peter Beardsley played for Hartlepool for example. That means you can tick off the Hartlepool box as a selected club to save the big clubs for later so you can use the pool of the large English clubs for last. That's part of making the 11 club aspect quite cheesy too Players who also played for a smaller club get very high value.

We could just call it '11 British clubs no criteria draft' too but maybe doesn't sound as exotic

If it's encouragement only then it's not for me, sorry. Really nice idea, but you know someone will happily pick Maradona for Napoli and ruin the whole thing.

[Linudden]

If it's encouragement only then it's not for me, sorry. Really nice idea, but you know someone will happily pick Maradona for Napoli and ruin the whole thing.

The whole point to me is the wild west aspect and seeing what kind of teams people are able to construct from eleven British clubs as a baseline when there are no rules such as minimum appearances, only play at that club considered et cetera.

We could call it something completely different and not invoke the cheese part at all.

[Betty Blue]

The whole point to me is the wild west aspect and seeing what kind of teams people are able to construct from eleven British clubs as a baseline when there are no rules such as minimum appearances, only play at that club considered et cetera.

We could call it something completely different and not invoke the cheese part at all.

We've done loads of 11 from 11 drafts with clubs. It's nothing new. The 'cheese' angle is what would set it out as something totally different. Kind of similar to the 'Hipster draft', which if you never saw is here -

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=325830.0

[Linudden]

That kind of Cheese Draft sounds more like a World Cup/Xmas adventure more than anything. It's doable and would have its charm but not the same as some desperate bloke picking John Terry for Nottingham Forest when centre backs are running out

The problem is the criteria and who to disallow which would open up a whole can of worms.

[Betty Blue]

That kind of Cheese Draft sounds more like a World Cup/Xmas adventure more than anything. It's doable and would have its charm but not the same as some desperate bloke picking John Terry for Nottingham Forest when centre backs are running out

The problem is the criteria and who to disallow which would open up a whole can of worms.

Well it's your idea, mate. You should go with what you want to do with this    I'd happily run a full cheese draft with an iron fist type approach down the line if that's not what you're aiming for here. The Hipster draft ultimately worked as people policed each other and played along because it was fun to do something a bit different. And any teams that tried sneaking in non-hipster players got voted down for it anyway 

[Linudden]

I'd happily run a full cheese draft with an iron fist type approach down the line if that's not what you're aiming for here.

When that happens I'm in! So long as I don't have to be the cheese police

Alright, taking sign-ups for the 11 British Clubs All-Time Carnage Draft - Feel Free To Cheese then?

Linudden
RobbieRedman

[Crosby Nick]

Gianfranco Gorgonzola
Edam Hazard
Emmental Ben Haim

That kind of thing?

[Linudden]

Gianfranco Gorgonzola
Edam Hazard
Emmental Ben Haim

That kind of thing?

More like Paul Gascoigne - Boston United but I get the vibe

Hope you're in for some carnage Nick! If people rather want the Betty cheese draft I'll take a back seat for now and go with that instead

[Samie]

80's and 70's Movie Drafts still to do. 

[El Lobo]

The movies ones should be good, strike whilst the irons hot and all that.

The other one sounds very convoluted. We can only pick from one country, but only one player from each club, and there's no actual rules on 'cheesiness'? Dont really see the point, particularly as its an all-time draft (not judged on form at that club). Just becomes a standard UK draft which we've done many of, with a few arguments of 'my pick was slightly cheesier than yours, John Barnes at Newcastle isn't as cheesy as Souness at Spurs, haha well my Jan Molby at Barnsley was much cheesier than both of you' etc. We're all just gonna google the usual names and try and fit them in somehow.

[Lastrador]

80's and 70's Movie Drafts still to do. 

And the 00s.

Give me a couple of weeks and we'll start with the 80s, unless someone else wants to run it. I would have no problem with that. I can participate but running it takes too much time and I'm up to my neck with work.

[red mongoose]

80's and 70's Movie Drafts still to do. 

I'd be all for doing the 80s first, skipping the 70s, then do 00s, then 10-20.

[Hazell]

Either way, let's get started. I can run it.

[tubby]

In for another similar movie draft.

[Samie]

in for the 80s. Get the thread up mate.

[Hazell]

in for the 80s. Get the thread up mate.

Who are you talking to?

[Samie]

You, seeing as you said "I can run it". 

[Hazell]

You, seeing as you said "I can run it". 

That would make sense.

Las:



But are you okay with me running the 80's one?

[tubby]

That would make sense.

Las:



But are you okay with me running the 80's one?

Think you're good.  Hurry it up so we can forget about football for a while.

And the 00s.

Give me a couple of weeks and we'll start with the 80s, unless someone else wants to run it. I would have no problem with that. I can participate but running it takes too much time and I'm up to my neck with work.

[Hazell]

Think you're good.  Hurry it up so we can forget about football for a while.

Will set something up shortly.

[red mongoose]

Will set something up shortly.

We'll have to adjust or scrap the Blockbuster aspect of this, as budgets hadn't really reached the same heights in the 80s yet.

[Hazell]

We'll have to adjust or scrap the Blockbuster aspect of this, as budgets hadn't really reached the same heights in the 80s yet.

Yep, I thought the same. The general thread is up:

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=352860.new#new

We'll discuss there

[Samie]

70's or 00's Film Draft next?