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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by decosabute on Today at 12:21:04 am »

We were making half arsed tackles because we started slowly and weren't up for the fight. We did absolutely nothing to help ourselves and gave the ref every opportunity to award those fouls. We've been robbed by ref's blatantly this season, but today was not one of them. It was all on us. It's a desperate reach to try blame the ref today.

Whilst we are on it, we're terrible at gamesmanship. Everton played us like a fiddle today and took every opportunity to fall to the ground. I know it's not how Klopp likes to play, but we can't piss and moan when it happens to us. It's part of the game, unfortunately. We've been done over a few times like that over the years. Particularly in Europe.

100% agree. Madley is a shite ref and Coote is a joke on VAR, but they didn't cost us that game at all. From the very start we looked mentally nowhere near it, our finishing was abysmal and our game management was shocking. Deserved every bit of it.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 12:20:57 am »

Mate, I was roaring at Madley in the pub. He was shit, no arguments. But that isn't why we lost tonight. It's not why weve been atrocious (Fulham-aside) for weeks.

The players don't deserve excuses getting made for them. They've felt sorry for themselves. They haven't competed. Darwin and Salah have been a joke lately.

The refereeing is shit, but that doesn't excuse how the players have let the manager down. Some of them have been shameful compared to the levels they'd be expected to hit.

How the fuck can you compete when Tarkowski is making 80's challenges and then the next second our players are being penalised for breathing on a player?

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by touchlineban on Today at 12:20:41 am »

That's that then.

No luck before or during the game either.  Now I know what it's like to watch teams down the bottom of the league.

Terrible in the first half.  Better in the second due to Diaz's energy.  Still couldn't hit the corner of the goal with any of our chances.  Getting chances, not finishing.  Old rope.

Everton made use of what they've got.  Don't give us a second on the ball after we passed the half way line or launch it to the lump up top and profit from knock downs and free kicks.  No need for 80+% possession there.

Referee, laughable.  Gueye got up laughing at being awarded a free kick that led to our shambolic defending that somehow ended up in the ball being in the back of our net.  You could only laugh at that point.

I'm convinced the ONLY way we're getting anything from these clowns is if/when we're taken over by some middle-eastern country.  Otherwise, the shit show from these clowns is going to continue and the scumbags in the Manchester and London media mafia won't mention it or show it.  We're getting fucked over and we don't have a voice, anywhere in the media fighting in our corner.  All grim, fucking grim.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by stockdam on Today at 12:20:37 am »

Look at how many goals our forwards have scored this season.

We are talking about Nunez and whether he can be coached into scoring more. I don't think coaching would do this and I don't believe that Salah's ability came directly from coaching. If so then it would be fairly easy to take a decent striker and turn them into a top class one and we know that isn't true. There are a lot of players who look good at the lower levels or when they are young but the EPL doesn't give you time to think and it's, in my opinion, instinctive.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Jόrgen Klopp

« Last post by stoa on Today at 12:20:17 am »

It depends entirely how he takes too the rest. I have said before he may enjoy the rest so much he will continue it. At this stage nobody really knows, he's going at the right time as football will not get any better, with more fixtures and pressure on managers increasing. I am pretty sure one of the things he wanted to do with his family was travel as well, maybe he will find time to do that, before deciding later on whether to return in some capacity or just retire for good.

It's hard to predict with Klopp. I could easily see him enjoying the easy life on permanent holiday maybe doing the odd TV pundit gig while spending most of his time with his family. Having said that, I could also see him coming back after a year or so after Ulla has told him to go find a new job, because it's annoying having him home all the time. No matter, what happens, it'll happen, because it's what he actually wants to do. I'm pretty sure though that we won't see or hear of him for at least a year (except for media speculation whenever a high profile job is available).

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 12:19:00 am »

As bad as this was, I'm not sure this is even the worst performance this month, to be honest.

xG 1.09 v 2.06.

Yeah we were shocking!

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by decosabute on Today at 12:18:40 am »

If you feel sorry about Klopp you shouldn't just dismiss calling out bad refereeing performances as an excuse for a loss, because multiple things can be true at the sane time. We have been shite today and in a lot of other recent games. Fully agree with that. That doesn't change the fact that at least every other week in the league we not only face the opposition team, but also refs who are giving us fuck all and everything to our opponents. We were 10-1 on fouls at one point during the match (or even the first half) and that's just scandalous after what we've all seen with our own eyes. Klopp seemed to think that way as well and he shouldn't have had to put up with shite like that all the time he was here.

Mate, I was roaring at Madley in the pub. He was shit, no arguments. But that isn't why we lost tonight. It's not why weve been atrocious (Fulham-aside) for weeks.

The players don't deserve excuses getting made for them. They've felt sorry for themselves. They haven't competed. Darwin and Salah have been a joke lately.

The refereeing is shit, but that doesn't excuse how the players have let the manager down. Some of them have been shameful compared to the levels they'd be expected to hit.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 12:17:14 am »

None of us really know as we haven't played at the same level. My guess is that it is instinctive and there's not a lot that can be done to improve it. Yes you can try to coach it in but when a top class defender is tight to you it is down to making the right decision, having a lot of skill and getting the shot away before the defender gets the block or tackle in. I'm not sure that I know of any strikers who it looks like their finishing got better under coaching. Andy Cole had an awful year when he couldn't score but I don't think it was good coaching that turned it around. He was a good player who was just going through a poor spell.

Look at how many goals our forwards have scored this season.

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The Boozer / Re: RAWK Fallout Shelter 3.0: CLOSE THE DAMN DOOR BEHIND YOU! Edition

« Last post by Crosby Nick on Today at 12:16:34 am »

Can’t wait to go to sleep and wake to feeling just as shit, probably worse than I do now.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Name 6 of the current squad that will still be here in 5 years(5 years on again)

« Last post by rushyman on Today at 12:16:31 am »

Missed 2019/20

I think I would've picked any of that squad at that time. It was our peak

So. It's time for 2024/25 version

Seems like a good moment