Author Topic: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales (Read 130667 times)

Yosser0_0 · « **Reply #3640 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:38:34 pm »

Quote from: "Nookie". on July 11, 2019, 04:36:55 pm

Genuine question this, with how long it took him to give it out, wouldn't human nature make you think "Give it not out, they'll review if they think it's out and we'll get the right decision in the end"

Yeah the whole thing looked really dodgy.

Robinred · « **Reply #3641 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:39:43 pm »

Quote from: "Nookie". on July 11, 2019, 04:36:55 pm

Genuine question this, with how long it took him to give it out, wouldn't human nature make you think "Give it not out, they'll review if they think it's out and we'll get the right decision in the end"

Agreed. But he’s always been trigger happy, which is why he’s not really up to it.

LovelyCushionedHeader · « **Reply #3642 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:40:27 pm »

Quote from: mc_red22 on July 11, 2019, 04:33:46 pm

Should teams/players not get fined for appealing something that obviously wasn't out but con the umpire into giving it out? I know the final decision lies with the umpire but I'm guessing when a team are appealing as mad as they were then it may play a part in what the final decision is.

I also think umpires need to be more wise in those situations. He obviously didn't see/hear anything (as there was nothing to see or hear), so do the easy thing and side with the team that doesn't have a review. If the opposition are that convinced, they can review and justice will be done that way.

demain · « **Reply #3643 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:41:49 pm »

Quote from: PoetryInMotion on July 11, 2019, 04:35:57 pm

Spot. Something has been totally off/weird with this tournament. Glad I'm not the only one to have felt that.

The England-India match was the one that had me really miffed. It seemed utterly deliberate on their part not to attempt to chase that score. However, the events of today or yesterday have been relatively palatable. Williamson figured out early on that the pitch was sticky and sluggish and that chasing would be really difficult. Whereas, today it was high class bowling from England rather than lack of intent or shoddy batting from Australia that has proved the difference.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #3644 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:42:05 pm »

Quote from: PoetryInMotion on July 11, 2019, 04:35:57 pm

Spot. Something has been totally off/weird with this tournament. Glad I'm not the only one to have felt that.

It's sport. Odd things happen quite regularly

Circa1892 · « **Reply #3645 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:42:07 pm »

Honestly can't recall a decision that bad in cricket. Wasn't even close.

I do think DRS has probably elongated the careers of some poor umpires. Their bad decisions tend to have less meaning than previous so they get away with more.

Yosser0_0 · « **Reply #3646 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:42:16 pm »

Joe Root, strike rate of 107, remarkable.

mc_red22 · « **Reply #3647 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:47:02 pm »

Quote from: "Nookie". on July 11, 2019, 04:34:57 pm

The amount of them appealing in unison, they must have believed he hit it.

I get that.

Circa1892 · « **Reply #3648 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:48:45 pm »

24 overs to go, 8 wickets in hand - scoring rate of 2 an over needed.

Even vs Australia we can't mess this up can we...

Kekule · « **Reply #3649 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:49:50 pm »

Quote from: PoetryInMotion on July 11, 2019, 04:35:57 pm

Spot. Something has been totally off/weird with this tournament. Glad I'm not the only one to have felt that.

I think there's a case to say that it's just what it's like playing in England with a lot of games being played in grounds that would normally only have 1 or 2 international matches, if any, in the summer. We don't prepare roads like other countries and we probably don't prepare the "best" pitches for the softer kookaburra ball.

Teams often take time to get used to playing here, and in some cases even by the end of their tour they still aren't any the wiser. Plenty of sides flew in a week or so before with no real preparation (due to the calendar and other commitments)

It's probably no different to how it usually is, but it just highlights the variation of playing here when you have 50 odd ODIs in a month rather than 10 or so spread out over the summer.

mc_red22 · « **Reply #3650 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:50:41 pm »

Quote from: LovelyCushionedHeader on July 11, 2019, 04:40:27 pm

I also think umpires need to be more wise in those situations. He obviously didn't see/hear anything (as there was nothing to see or hear), so do the easy thing and side with the team that doesn't have a review. If the opposition are that convinced, they can review and justice will be done that way.

I agree. It's not as though he put his finger up straight away either, it took some time for him to do that. There was obviously some doubt. The same goes for the fielding team though. They appealed so collectively and convincingly but that shouldn't have been possible considering there was nothing there. That shouldn't be acceptable.

Sangria · « **Reply #3651 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:51:59 pm »

Quote from: Circa1892 on July 11, 2019, 04:48:45 pm

24 overs to go, 8 wickets in hand - scoring rate of 2 an over needed.

Even vs Australia we can't mess this up can we...

I always remember Surrey vs Lancashire in the early 90s. Chasing 240, Darren Bicknell went early, but then Stewart and Thorpe put on around 200, with Surrey needing 30-40 to win at 3rpo and 9 wickets left.

BobPaisley3 · « **Reply #3652 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:54:10 pm »

Quote from: Sangria on July 11, 2019, 04:51:59 pm

I always remember Surrey vs Lancashire in the early 90s. Chasing 240, Darren Bicknell went early, but then Stewart and Thorpe put on around 200, with Surrey needing 30-40 to win at 3rpo and 9 wickets left.

Go on, don’t leave us hanging. Who won?

Kekule · « **Reply #3653 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:55:47 pm »

28 runs needed of 22 overs. 8 wickets in hand.

This one is going down to the wire folks.

RobbieRedman · « **Reply #3654 on:** July 11, 2019, 04:57:35 pm »

Quote from: BobPaisley3 on July 11, 2019, 04:54:10 pm

Go on, don’t leave us hanging. Who won?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XASKcU9YROw

BobPaisley3 · « **Reply #3655 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:00:21 pm »

Quote from: RobbieRedman on July 11, 2019, 04:57:35 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XASKcU9YROw

Will have a gander later. Ian Austin was playing, happy days.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3656 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:08:01 pm »

Warner Warner what’s the score

You’re not swinging anymore

Can we move the final from Lord’s?

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3657 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:08:58 pm »

Quote from: BobPaisley3 on July 11, 2019, 04:54:10 pm

Go on, don’t leave us hanging. Who won?

Two words: Wasim Akram

I remember that, Surrey list 9 wickets for 19 or something crazy like that.

Yosser0_0 · « **Reply #3658 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:08:59 pm »

Could do this in extras now.

archie · « **Reply #3659 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:09:12 pm »

Some trashing. Fair play.

Statto Red · « **Reply #3660 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:09:40 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on July 11, 2019, 05:08:01 pm

Warner Warner what’s the score

You’re not swinging anymore

Can we move the final from Lord’s?

The Aussies have to go through it all again in 3 weeks, as the 1st test is at Edgbaston.

mc_red22 · « **Reply #3661 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:10:05 pm »

Shame we won't get the chance to bat for 50 overs. Smacking 400 against these would make it even sweeter.

Yosser0_0 · « **Reply #3662 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:10:33 pm »

'Cricket's coming home'

mc_red22 · « **Reply #3663 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:11:34 pm »

No idea what the chant is but the "...cause you're shite" bit made me laugh

Statto Red · « **Reply #3664 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:11:43 pm »

4 runs needed.

Statto Red · « **Reply #3665 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:12:04 pm »

3 needed

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3666 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:12:40 pm »

222/2. 2 to win.

Statto Red · « **Reply #3667 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:12:49 pm »

2 needed

voodoo ray · « **Reply #3668 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:13:04 pm »

A complete pummelling. That's an england team getting it done in a semi final.

Ray K · « **Reply #3669 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:13:07 pm »

Getting tense now...

vagabond · « **Reply #3670 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:13:18 pm »

Quote from: Robinred on July 11, 2019, 04:39:43 pm

Agreed. But he’s always been trigger happy, which is why he’s not really up to it.

That's harsh. He was named umpire of the year in 2012 and 2018. It was a bad mistake but let's not malign his entire career.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3671 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:13:34 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on July 11, 2019, 05:09:40 pm

The Aussies have to go through it all again in 3 weeks, as the 1st test is at Edgbaston.

5 days of it too.

Statto Red · « **Reply #3672 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:14:56 pm »

England win a semi.

mc_red22 · « **Reply #3673 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:15:47 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on July 11, 2019, 05:13:34 pm

5 days of it too.

Play like this again and it won't last 2 days.

Statto Red · « **Reply #3674 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:16:16 pm »

Got the winning runs just as it starts to rain.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #3675 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:16:44 pm »

A massacre that

Sangria · « **Reply #3676 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:16:48 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on July 11, 2019, 05:08:58 pm

Two words: Wasim Akram

I remember that, Surrey list 9 wickets for 19 or something crazy like that.

Note James Boiling at the end. I got the official Ashes magazine that summer, the one with Chris Lewis in a sunhat sweeping the ball on the cover. One section was titled: "Spinners won't be winners", citing the historical truth that spinners don't tend to make a difference in Ashes series. One of the English spinners highlighted was Boiling, based on nothing. But for romantics, there was the English hope, the promising young legspinner Ian Salisbury. The Aussies had their own, this chap called Warne, who got taken apart by the Windies the previous year.

demain · « **Reply #3677 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:17:05 pm »

The final now has to be on FTA.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3678 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:17:16 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on July 11, 2019, 05:14:56 pm

England win a semi.

We’re not bad at winning semis in the cricket.

But we have lost 3 World Cup Finals, 2 Champions Trophy Finals and a World T20 Final.

Statto Red · « **Reply #3679 on:** July 11, 2019, 05:17:27 pm »

Quote from: demain on July 11, 2019, 05:17:05 pm

The final now has to be on FTA.

It is.