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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #360 on: October 5, 2022, 10:11:49 pm »

'Hillsborough: pathology review set up to assess medical failures of first inquiry' - by David Conn:-

Original examinations led to inquest finding victims’ injuries were irreversible by 3.15pm

www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/05/hillsborough-pathology-review-assess-failures-first-inquiry
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #361 on: January 31, 2023, 08:52:35 am »
BBC News - Hillsborough disaster: Police to respond to Bishop's report

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-64454778

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #362 on: January 31, 2023, 09:38:44 am »
The fact it's taken them over five years to respond to this just demonstrated the depth and degree to which they were culpable. Looking forward to some mealy-mouthed self-defence and some trite hand-wringing, along with painfully crafted PR speak.
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #363 on: January 31, 2023, 12:07:25 pm »
BBC News - Hillsborough disaster: Families profoundly failed, say police
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-64454778

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #364 on: January 31, 2023, 12:14:22 pm »
The fact it's taken them over five years to respond to this just demonstrated the depth and degree to which they were culpable. Looking forward to some mealy-mouthed self-defence and some trite hand-wringing, along with painfully crafted PR speak.

The article I just read (Sky News I think) said it took this long because they couldn’t release it during any ongoing legal proceedings.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #365 on: January 31, 2023, 12:26:56 pm »
JOB (James O'Brien)is going to a segment about it tomorrow on his show (LBC)
Says  Shelagh Fogerty will do something on it today he says.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #366 on: January 31, 2023, 12:41:51 pm »
JOB (James O'Brien)is going to a segment about it tomorrow on his show (LBC)
Says  Shelagh Fogerty will do something on it today he says.

They have both been very good at keeping focus on Hillsborough and the police accountability. Only David Conn at the Guardian has been better from a journalistic point of view

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #367 on: January 31, 2023, 12:46:53 pm »
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'Hard to make sense of a system that allows police to tell vile lies about the Hillsborough disaster for 32 years, then when all legal cases are over with nobody held accountable, police apologise and admit to failures. That’s what happened yesterday.' - https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1620701082933501952 ...


'Police chiefs apologise for Hillsborough failures' - by David Conn

NPCC chair launches report setting out commitments to learn lessons from 1989 football stadium disaster

www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/31/police-chiefs-apologise-for-hillsborough-failures



'Lack of government response to Hillsborough report ‘intolerable’':-

Right Rev James Jones criticises failure to address its findings more than five years since publication

www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/31/lack-government-response-hillsborough-report-intolerable



'Police apologise for ‘years of deflection and denial’ over Hillsborough disaster':-

Leaders vow that ‘cultural change’ will improve families’ treatment after tragedies

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hillsborough-disaster-report-police-apology-b2272720.html



'Hillsborough campaigners respond to police apology for "profound failures" 34 years ago':-

An alliance of Liverpool fans has said the police response, including a first apology almost 34 years after the Hillsborough disaster in 1989, does not go far enough

www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/hillsborough-disaster-campaign-police-apology-29095235




Radio 4 program on the issue - with Phil Scraton and Jenni Hicks: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001hp2f (and forward to 1:31:19 for when the subject starts).

^ Phil Scraton is on at 1:38:20 for 3/4 minutes - it is very much worth a listen to.




'National police apologise to Hillsborough families after 33 years' - a 2 minute video from Sky Sports News:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nBW0pzLGejI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nBW0pzLGejI</a>

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'Hillsborough: Police apology has 'taken way too long'' - a 4 minute from Sky News:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/mMEHTvMLCos" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/mMEHTvMLCos</a>

^ or click here to watch - www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMEHTvMLCos



https://twitter.com/NowHillsborough/status/1620462082931175424

'“It has taken nearly 6 years for the leading UK police body to respond to the Bishop’s report and adopt his aspirational charter to promise to do better. The failure of the NPCC to support statutory change through the enactment of Hillsborough Law is a clear indication that they are only interested in PR rather than real change. HB Law will require public servants and all bodies with responsibility for public safety, including the police, to proactively come up with the truth after a disaster or other serious incident.  The report is silent on why they will not endorse what the families. The report is silent on why they will not endorse what the families. chairs of many inquiries, and just about everyone else interested in justice and making the public safer wants.  They don't oppose it but they won’t support it.  Why?

The Government, shamefully, has still not responded to the report from the Bishop which the PM commissioned The @PoliceChiefs has missed a golden opportunity to push them into making real change”. #HillsboroughLawNow'



https://twitter.com/RichieG_LFC/status/1620420045431242754

'A long overdue apology for the bereaved Hillsborough families from the police today. No mention of the people who survived their incompetence though, the ones who’ve been branded thieves, liars & drunks; the ones vilified & abused for over 3 decades because of their lies?'



https://twitter.com/charlhennessy1/status/1620395503161856002

'12,344 days have passed since our loved ones were killed at #Hillsborough.
And only today are the police acknowledging that their failings caused the disaster, their lies contributed to the torment we continue to be put through!'



https://twitter.com/BrianReade/status/1620411096317456384

'It’s taken 34 years for police to admit that their failings killed 97 people whose average age was 24. Then finally apologise to families, knowing all legal action has ended so none of their own will ever be held accountable. What a shameless country.'



https://twitter.com/TonyEvans92a/status/1620398092544794627

'Seeing lots of 'charters,' 'codes,' and 'guidences' in today's police report about the response to Hillsborough. Yup, 34 years on we're getting the equivalent of 'thoughts and prayers.' The duty of candour needs to be enshrined in law'

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #368 on: January 31, 2023, 12:47:16 pm »
They have both been very good at keeping focus on Hillsborough and the police accountability. Only David Conn at the Guardian has been better from a journalistic point of view
Totally agree.
Shelagh always  come across as  very sensitive to the suffering Hillsborough caused so  many and James is very much the Rottweiler the guilty should be held to account (if that makes sense).

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #369 on: January 31, 2023, 01:01:20 pm »
The article I just read (Sky News I think) said it took this long because they couldn’t release it during any ongoing legal proceedings.
So, they waited until they'd finished the procrss of dismantling all remaining cases and letting everyone off.... right, got it.....
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #370 on: January 31, 2023, 01:58:16 pm »
Excerpt from David Conn's article today:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/31/police-chiefs-apologise-for-hillsborough-failures?CMP=share_btn_tw

Hewitt also condemned the toxic chants about the disaster directed at Liverpool supporters by some rival fans at recent matches, which have caused deep offence to families and survivors.

“It’s disgusting and action needs to be taken [by match police and stewards] to stop people doing that,” he said.


I'll believe it when I see it.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #371 on: January 31, 2023, 05:21:08 pm »
Jennie and Phil were spot on today on R4. We need 'Duty of Candour' and Independent Public Advocate.

As she says, "...desperately needed and long overdue..."

Also, she asks for, "a level playing field of funding" <--- MASSIVE obstacle, as the families of the 97 well know.

#hillsboroughlawnow - a charter for the bereaved. The first suggestion of this was made in 1997. 26 years later, we still don't have it. Wow.
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #372 on: February 3, 2023, 05:40:52 pm »

'Two days after Government criticised for non-response to Hillsborough Law proposals, @meaglemp presented her Bill for a Public Advocate to help bereaved families through legal processes. Government blocked  it - for the 12th time.' - https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1621533240820469760


'Today, just after 2.30pm, I will try again to get the Government to accept my Public Advocate (No.2) Bill, a key part of #HillsboroughLawNow to stop families bereaved in public disaster from having to endure what #Hillsborough families have'. - https://twitter.com/meaglemp/status/1621476722708287490 (with short video)



'Government accused of repeatedly blocking Hillsborough public advocate law':-

The Bill was effectively denied a second reading at the end of Friday’s Commons sitting.

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/hillsborough-maria-eagle-government-commons-labour-b1057834.html

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #373 on: February 3, 2023, 05:46:23 pm »
Fucking gobshites!!

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #374 on: February 3, 2023, 05:50:05 pm »
*psssst - they don't want to give us anything any more*

I remember a survivor telling me just before the Inquest that that's all we'll ever get. How naive was I at the time not to believe him......
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #375 on: February 4, 2023, 09:34:24 pm »
 Hillsborough Law

A Hillsborough Dad a Hillsborough Mum
A Hillsborough Daughter a Hillsborough Son.
A Hillsborough Nephew, Uncle or Niece.
Will their loved ones ever find real peace?

A Hillsborough Brother and a Sister too.
A Hillsborough suicide, there's been a few.
A Hillsborough Granddad a Hillsborough Nan.
Hillsborough corruption and lies, to a man.

Hillsborough Flowers and an eternal flame.
Hillsborough prayers and the endless pain.
And for all the other cover ups, plenty more.
Don't stand in the way of a 'Hillsborough Law'
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