Topic: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD

[MNAA]

Bit like Drinkwater going to Chelsea.

Bloody hell … I was pretty ready to write exactly that 😅. This and Grealish signing feels like an attempt to wash and cleanse the sportwashing image of a sportwashing club. This is to replace Fernandinho or Gundogan?

[Henry Kissinger]

Bloody hell … I was pretty ready to write exactly that 😅. This and Grealish signing feels like an attempt to wash and cleanse the sportwashing image of a sportwashing club. This is to replace Fernandinho or Gundogan?

Fernandinho I would have thought. Phillips can play Rodri's role against the fodder with no discernible drop in quality which would give Rodri adequate rest time.

[marmite sw]

city buying everyone again .. like Chelsea they ruin more careers than succeed  ...oh lets buy 5 of everything and well see whos best ...and the joke is they get away with it .... sorry rant vented

[Racer]

How are City getting away with just £42m - English and an international normally equals a premium- he’s first choice for Southgate when fit. I smell something fishy again

[Dim Glas]

How are City getting away with just £42m - English and an international normally equals a premium- he’s first choice for Southgate when fit. I smell something fishy again

It’s £45m, and ‘just’? Seems a huge amount for what he is.

Playing for England isn’t a great measure is it? Southgate is an awful coach who loves to stack his team with defensive midfielders. He’d not be anywhere near a start for other big nations.

[Lone Star Red]

How are City getting away with just £42m - English and an international normally equals a premium- he’s first choice for Southgate when fit. I smell something fishy again

If anything, that's kept his price down! 

[Racer]

It’s £45m, and ‘just’? Seems a huge amount for what he is.

Playing for England isn’t a great measure is it? Southgate is an awful coach who loves to stack his team with defensive midfielders. He’d not be anywhere near a start for other big nations.

I don’t rate him but going by the fees being quoted for him it does seem on the low side.

[Henry Kissinger]

How are City getting away with just £42m - English and an international normally equals a premium- he’s first choice for Southgate when fit. I smell something fishy again

They paid £40m for Ake, similar level of ability I'd say.

[Henry Kissinger]

Newcastle are close to signing Sven Botman from Lille for €40m (£34.4m) with add-ons.

The Dutch defender was wanted by Newcastle’s manager, Eddie Howe, in January but a deal could not be completed. It should now happen his summer.

Botman would be Newcastle’s third signing of the summer following the arrivals of Matt Targett from Aston Villa and Nick Pope from Burnley.

Guardian.

[Barefoot Doctor]

I see RAWK is torn on whether City have ruined the market by paying an obscene price or whether the deal is shady because it’s so low 

My view is that it’s a good fee for someone who is only 26 and a starter for England. I think with Fernandinho gone they need another midfielder and my guess is Phillips will start more often than not. I think City’s recruitment, on the whole, is very good. Who are the worst signings they’ve made in Guardiola’s time? Mendy obviously, but beyond that it’s probably Danilo and Grealish, and the latter is because of the ridiculous fee. So I don’t think Phillips will bomb at all, expect he’ll be a good player for them - question is whether he can do better than that. If not, they’ll just get someone else in, which of course is where City’s real power in the market lies… when they don’t get something quite right they don’t have to worry as they can just move on and sign someone else for £40m+.

[Dim Glas]

I see RAWK is torn on whether City have ruined the market by paying an obscene price or whether the deal is shady because it’s so low 

My view is that it’s a good fee for someone who is only 26 and a starter for England. I think with Fernandinho gone they need another midfielder and my guess is Phillips will start more often than not. I think City’s recruitment, on the whole, is very good. Who are the worst signings they’ve made in Guardiola’s time? Mendy obviously, but beyond that it’s probably Danilo and Grealish, and the latter is because of the ridiculous fee. So I don’t think Phillips will bomb at all, expect he’ll be a good player for them - question is whether he can do better than that. If not, they’ll just get someone else in, which of course is where City’s real power in the market lies… when they don’t get something quite right they don’t have to worry as they can just move on and sign someone else for £40m+.

well of course it is,  not sure who’d argue with that! They can spend freely with no worries, and do indeed spend most of it well.  Grealish is the one obvious ‘odd’ transfer they’ve made recently, simply because he’s as thick as two short planks, and doesn’t seem to have the capacity to learn Guardiola’s choreographed robo-football.

Not sure if Phillips will start loads yet, is he taking Gundogan’s spot? I honestly don’t know, I barely watch them, I guess as he’s a defensive mid, most will think he’s taking Fernandinho’s spot in the squad.   But if he doesn’t start loads it makes no odds, spending 40-50 mill on backups is something they can and will do. Ake being another one they did recently in that role.

[beardsleyismessimk1]

Is he going to add anything to them trying to win the CL ? Like fuck is he. So is just a waste of time for him and them.

[MonsLibpool]

I see RAWK is torn on whether City have ruined the market by paying an obscene price or whether the deal is shady because it’s so low 

My view is that it’s a good fee for someone who is only 26 and a starter for England. I think with Fernandinho gone they need another midfielder and my guess is Phillips will start more often than not. I think City’s recruitment, on the whole, is very good. Who are the worst signings they’ve made in Guardiola’s time? Mendy obviously, but beyond that it’s probably Danilo and Grealish, and the latter is because of the ridiculous fee. So I don’t think Phillips will bomb at all, expect he’ll be a good player for them - question is whether he can do better than that. If not, they’ll just get someone else in, which of course is where City’s real power in the market lies… when they don’t get something quite right they don’t have to worry as they can just move on and sign someone else for £40m+.

Their recruitment is average because if it were to be that good:
i. They wouldn't have spent so much on fullbacks.
ii. Our squad wouldn't have been better than theirs last season.

They blew £100m on Grealish and it hasn't really worked out. Their response? Spend even more on Haaland.

Their recruitment looks better than it is because they can continue spending until they get it right.

[Asam]

Their recruitment is average because if it were to be that good:
i. They wouldn't have spent so much on fullbacks.
ii. Our squad wouldn't have been better than theirs last season.

They blew £100m on Grealish and it hasn't really worked out. Their response? Spend even more on Haaland.

Their recruitment looks better than it is because they can continue spending until they get it right.

They can make mistakes and it doesn’t really matter, we have to get every signing right

Phillips is great at winning the ball back, they have enough who are good on the ball so his role will be defined

[JRed]

Their recruitment is average because if it were to be that good:
i. They wouldn't have spent so much on fullbacks.
ii. Our squad wouldn't have been better than theirs last season.

They blew £100m on Grealish and it hasn't really worked out. Their response? Spend even more on Haaland.

Their recruitment looks better than it is because they can continue spending until they get it right.

That’s it, it’s just one expensive signing after another after another after another…Spend spend spend. Imagine they actually tried to develop their youth players. It’s so fucking boring.

[JackWard33]

Is he going to add anything to them trying to win the CL ? Like fuck is he. So is just a waste of time for him and them.

Well he helps them do it indirectly - they need a Rodri back up

[Ray K]

David Ornstein

🚨 Arsenal have reached an agreement with Manchester City to sign striker Gabriel Jesus for £45m. Still some bits to sort but #AFC on course to secure 25yo, who also had interest from Chelsea & Tottenham. Arteta’s top target


That's the other long-expected transfer of the summer after the Phillips one about to be confirmed. Decent signing for Arsenal who do need a #9.

[Hazell]

Bloody hell, how much have Arsenal been spending under Arteta?

Awaiting North Bank to say they've spent 20p and bag of lemon sherbert since they left Highbury.

[JackWard33]

Whoa that’s a great fee for arsenal

[Passmaster Molby]

Whoa that’s a great fee for arsenal

He only had 1 year left on his deal, so I think City have actually done well out of that.

[Drinks Sangria]

Jesus an excellent signing for Arsenal.

Normally agree with most stuff Barefoot Doc says but I think Phillips is desperately overrated outside of this site. He’s a great runner who does some of the defensive stuff reasonably but can’t pass a football or create. He is a significant step down from Rodri.

[JackWard33]

He only had 1 year left on his deal, so I think City have actually done well out of that.

Ah that explains it thanks - decent deal for both then

[Passmaster Molby]

Ah that explains it thanks - decent deal for both then

Yeah it’s exactly what Arsenal need, it’s what Jesus needs and City get some cash to waste on Kalvin Phillips so everyone’s a winner.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Jesus an excellent signing for Arsenal.

Normally agree with most stuff Barefoot Doc says but I think Phillips is desperately overrated outside of this site. He’s a great runner who does some of the defensive stuff reasonably but can’t pass a football or create. He is a significant step down from Rodri.

I think he's very hit or miss - reminds me of Hendo in that sense. Quite erratic at times but when he's on it he's a huge asset to any team.

[disgraced cake]

Phillips is the type of player I'm sound with them buying. Same as Grealish who has contributed nothing in his first season there. I know they don't exactly have gaping holes in their side but still.

If they can shift a few more who have won things over the past few years (IE Gundogan) then next season is looking very fucking tasty IMO.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Phillips is the type of player I'm sound with them buying. Same as Grealish who has contributed nothing in his first season there. I know they don't exactly have gaping holes in their side but still.

If they can shift a few more who have won things over the past few years (IE Gundogan) then next season is looking very fucking tasty IMO.

Broadly agree but you're forgetting they've signed an absolute freak of nature bagsman.

Hopefully we have too but we have lost one in return.

[disgraced cake]

Broadly agree but you're forgetting they've signed an absolute freak of nature bagsman.

Hopefully we have too but we have lost one in return.

Agree about Haaland he's a great scorer but I feel less worried about him on account they're going to score loads regardless. There's a possibility he could be their best signing of the summer and make less of a noticeable difference than other players. I'd back him to do well but here's hoping the step up in quality to the Prem makes it a struggle for him. Of course, same thing could happen for Nunez ... Truth be told in regards to Haaland I'm hoping he picks up injuries he can never properly recover from. Would be shite if he does the same numbers he's done in Germany but I can't really see him being as prolific if I'm honest.

Where goals come from is always an interesting one. Salah/Mane/Bobby being were prolific for us when we scraped into 4th place than they were when we won the title in record time. In the 2019/20 season City scored 17 more goals than us in the league which seems bizarre to me.

[Dave McCoy]

The weird thing is Jesus really isn't a striker. Though I suppose Arteta did start the year where he was trying Auba in this weird winger/striker hybrid type role. What you'd have to say at this point is Arteta can't really have any other excuses, either they make CL or he should be out of a job.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

The weird thing is Jesus really isn't a striker. Though I suppose Arteta did start the year where he was trying Auba in this weird winger/striker hybrid type role. What you'd have to say at this point is Arteta can't really have any other excuses, either they make CL or he should be out of a job.

He's the biggest phony in the Premier League, well, along with Lumpard.

[The North Bank]

Finally , Jesus is done, been waiting weeks for this to get over the line. Exactly what we need, after playing a season without a striker, I think he ll link up well with Saka Martinelli Odegaard Vieira etc and give us another dimension we didn’t have last season.
Have to say I’m very pleased with our window, the biggest worry at missing out on cL was the ability to attract players like these and to have the finances to get deals done, in fact we’ve been one of the busiest teams so far with 4 signings and seemingly working on more.
We still need another midfielder and a left back. Raphinha would be great too but not someone we need.

[Ghost Town]

Finally , Jesus is done,

Hark at you, Pontius Pilate

[farawayred]

Finally , Jesus is done,

You nailed that one.

[The North Bank]

You nailed that one.

Apparently he thrives on crosses , changed his tune a bit hasnt he.

[BarryCrocker]

Finally , Jesus is done, been waiting weeks for this to get over the line. Exactly what we need, after playing a season without a striker, I think he ll link up well with Saka Martinelli Odegaard Vieira etc and give us another dimension we didn’t have last season.
Have to say I’m very pleased with our window, the biggest worry at missing out on cL was the ability to attract players like these and to have the finances to get deals done, in fact we’ve been one of the busiest teams so far with 4 signings and seemingly working on more.
We still need another midfielder and a left back. Raphinha would be great too but not someone we need.

Glad he didn't sign for us.

It would have been a Red-Surrection. 

[Flaccido Dongingo]

He'll have plenty of opportunities to make water into whine at Arsenal.

[Passmaster Molby]

If there’s one thing Arsenal done need any more of its whine, there’s plenty of that.

Having said that, they will be looking forward to the resurrection of Jesus career now they have put the bread on the table. With him in the team they don’t need to look for a first team number nine any Myrrh.

[AmanShah21]

Their recruitment is average because if it were to be that good:
i. They wouldn't have spent so much on fullbacks.
ii. Our squad wouldn't have been better than theirs last season.

They blew £100m on Grealish and it hasn't really worked out. Their response? Spend even more on Haaland.

Their recruitment looks better than it is because they can continue spending until they get it right.

Gundogan, Sterling, Silva, Jesus, Zinchenko and Ake all seem to be available for a price and Fernandinho released  while City seem to be getting alvarez, haaland, phillips and cucurella so far from the big noises. I dont think that is the end of their spending, especially if everybody listed above actually leaves. Just hope they find another Grealish to squander money on.

[ScottishGoon]

I'm a day late on this but I think people are being a bit harsh on Tielemans.

He wasn't great last season but no one at Leicester was and with the injuries they had they lost all stability last season.

He's not the quickest but I don't think he's as slow as made out, that gif of him struggling to jog bag 1 time seems to have stuck and is haunting him.

I still want us to sign him but I think whoever he goes to is getting a very good player at a very good price, he just needs the right environment and challenge to really kick on his game now.

[Drinks Sangria]

I think Haaland will do well, but his body will betray him more than City fans are used to and they will get frustrated with that, then he’ll be off to Real Madrid anyway.

He’s a great young player but it’s quite clear to see he won’t run as hot in the Premier League as he has done in Austria and Germany. He has a goals per 90 metric of 0.77 since he moved to Germany. If he’s keeping that up in the Premier League, that’s all time legend status because Henry is the greatest in that category with 0.68 goals per 90.

I think some City fans are expecting the volume of Shearer and scoring frequency of Henry. What they’ll get is a powerful, oddly mobile striker who will flat-track bully and stat pad against the poor teams, give the good teams a hard match but ultimately be playing in a pool of quality unlike that which he’s played in before. He will get injured frequently and swan off to Spain with a vague feeling of ‘he was good but not as good as we thought he would be. If only the injuries etc’

On Tielemans - he’s great, he’s just the absolute definition of a luxury player. Arsenal to me don’t seem to have a clear, athletic DM and without one and a box to box (if we can call Partey that) Tielemans doesn’t flourish. Build your midfield around him and it’ll tick nicely.

[ScottishGoon]

On Tielemans - he’s great, he’s just the absolute definition of a luxury player. Arsenal to me don’t seem to have a clear, athletic DM and without one and a box to box (if we can call Partey that) Tielemans doesn’t flourish. Build your midfield around him and it’ll tick nicely.

I think it's a bit unfair to call him a luxury player. Ozil is someone id class as a luxury player. Tielemans has better defensive stats I'm sure than Xhaka for instance, & that's meant to be a strong part of his game.

I think when Leicester were playing well a couple of seasons ago the midfield 3 of Ndidi, Tielemans & Maddison were very good, and you could compare them with Partey, Tielemans & Odegaard in style of players.

And you can always compensate a bit tactically as well, perhaps inverting one of your full backs like we tend to do when Tomiyasu plays anyway.

All hypothetical anyway until we see where he actually goes.