Topic: Boxing thread

[Barneylfc∗]

Aj's next fight confirmed

Jermaine Franklin on 1st April 

[Samie]

It should be an easy win for AJ. I say should be...

[jizzspunk]

It should be an easy win for AJ. I say should be...

but....there's about 28 million casuals in the UK who say AJ is done..finished 🙄...after being out pointed twice against a world class fighter...😉

[Eeyore]

It should be an easy win for AJ. I say should be...

The interesting thing for me is which AJ we will see. The old big punching AJ that looked to blast opponents out. Or the shot-shy AJ that looked to hide behind his jab. If it is the latter then for me his career is pretty much over.

[Legs]

Aj's next fight confirmed

Jermaine Franklin on 1st April 

Also his first non PPV fight for 7-8 years.

Surprised at that from Eddie

[Lusty]

The interesting thing for me is which AJ we will see. The old big punching AJ that looked to blast opponents out. Or the shot-shy AJ that looked to hide behind his jab. If it is the latter then for me his career is pretty much over.

Mentally he's not been quite right since his first loss and I have a feeling that Usyk might have broken him.  He needs 2 or 3 fights against some absolute bums to get back on the path.

If he can sort his head out then I still think he beats Wilder easily enough, and I make him a live underdog against Fury.  If not, he's a gatekeeper with the occasional PPV against big domestic rivals.

[I've been a good boy]

I wouldn't give him a cat in hell's chance against Wilder. Absolute shit boxer but his power is just too damn unpredictable, and we know AJ doesnt like eating those. Franklin won't be an easy fight but a KO is a must. If he struggles then we know he's washed.

[1892tillforever]

It should be an easy win for AJ. I say should be...

I wouldn't give him a cat in hell's chance against Wilder. Absolute shit boxer but his power is just too damn unpredictable, and we know AJ doesnt like eating those. Franklin won't be an easy fight but a KO is a must. If he struggles then we know he's washed.

It really should be an easy KO, probably inside 4 rounds. Franklin was absolutely terrible against Whyte, who is absolutely finished and will be pummelled the next time he fights someone decent. Franklin is really slow and carries way too much weight. He will be a sitting duck. If Joshua reverts to seek and destroy mode this won't last long at all.

If Joshua still has his self belief there's no reason why he won't get to Wilder before windmill gets to him.

[Lusty]

I wouldn't give him a cat in hell's chance against Wilder. Absolute shit boxer but his power is just too damn unpredictable, and we know AJ doesnt like eating those. Franklin won't be an easy fight but a KO is a must. If he struggles then we know he's washed.

Joshia is a puncher in his own right, and Wilder made Tyson Fury look like Ernie Shavers. The longer the fight went on the more chance there would be of Wilder landing the hadoken, but the old version of Joshua would blow him away before that happened. I give Wilder a chance against the boring version of AJ.

[1892tillforever]

Joshia is a puncher in his own right, and Wilder made Tyson Fury look like Ernie Shavers. The longer the fight went on the more chance there would be of Wilder landing the hadoken, but the old version of Joshua would blow him away before that happened. I give Wilder a chance against the boring version of AJ.

100% this. It is amazing how Joshua is now a bum and Wilder is some hybrid of Shavers, Liston and Tyson. It is worth remembering that the likes of Arreola, Molina, Szpilka, Duhapas, and Stiverne all went 8+ rounds with him. He has knocked out a few tomato cans early on so the perception is that he's some kind of wrecking ball. The reality is that he's a terrible boxer who takes ages to find the target against half-decent opponents, and walks around with his right hand cocked, left hand down, and chin in the air much of the time. Basically, there's every chance Joshua lands first.

[Clayton Bigsby]

The only way this will get settled is in the ring. I think Wilder/AJ 50-50 based on what we've seen so far

But I think its clear as day that AJ really had no intention of ever fighting Fury in December and that he was the reason it ultimately flopped. Picking the loser of the Whyte v Franklin fight is desperate stuff. If he blows him away as easily as we suspect, how do you sell the Whyte fight?

[1892tillforever]

The only way this will get settled is in the ring. I think Wilder/AJ 50-50 based on what we've seen so far

But I think its clear as day that AJ really had no intention of ever fighting Fury in December and that he was the reason it ultimately flopped. Picking the loser of the Whyte v Franklin fight is desperate stuff. If he blows him away as easily as we suspect, how do you sell the Whyte fight?

He was in no mental or physical condition to take on the challenge of Fury in December. Usyk took his soul that second fight I think and he may struggle to ever come back from it. IMO Joshua fought really well that night but simply ran into a better opponent.

You sell the Joshua vs Whyte fight in the same hackneyed 'repeat or revenge' garbage we've seen in rematches in the past. I bet enough mugs bought the nonsense that was Fury versus Chisora III to ensure both fighters did well enough from it. The problem is that Whyte is getting beat any decent opponent so if he fights in the interim it needs to be against a complete tomato can.

[Fiasco]

I've got no real interest in seeing Joshua/Whyte again. Whyte looks absolutely finished to me, there was a period a few years ago where he went on a good run and looked in decent shape and you thought yeah, he's a live dog if they fought again. But now? Nah, AJ would take him out pretty easily I think.

[jizzspunk]

Agree, I'm not a fan of all this finished/he's done stuff, but Whyte has peaked...I guess AJ v Whyte is a summer stadium filler in between the dust settling on Fury v Usyk...then maybe there's a natural pathway back to AJ v Fury if those outcomes align...Fury will want his night with AJ..he won't be able to resist

Wilder doesn't travel..he's not really in the picture for me, should fight Ruiz if anything for now
Usyk may quit if he was to beat Fury

[William Regal]

I've gotta say, the Joshua v Wilder fight is the fight that intrigues me most in the heavyweight division, it's the thought of a definite KO after years of talk.

With Wilder, I dont believe theres any chance he can be the same fighter he was after 2 heavy and sustained beatdowns like that and with Joshua you feel his weakness is more mental after being out boxed twice by the smaller man.

I'd really like Wilder to come through Ruiz and Joshua to come through Whyte so they can at least go into that fight with confidence boosters.

I'll reserve judgement on Wilder v Joshua until it's made but I genuinely don't fancy Joshua from the outside, I dont believe Joshua has the skills or the balls anymore like Fury to stand with Wilder in the pocket and force him backwards to neutralise Wilders gameplan.  To me, Joshua now fights scared, he was gun shy in Ruiz 2 and both Usyk fights against non punchers, he seems to have got caught inbetween styles and I think a lot of it has come from the realisation he doesn't have the engine to sustain attacks against durable fighters.

Still a long way before that fight can take place but its definitely a fight I will be happy to buy on PPV.

[Samie]

Tricky fight for Golovkin at this stage of his career.

The WBA have now officially ordered Gennady Golovkin to defend his WBA Middleweight world title vs Erislandy Lara next. Parties have 15 days (until Feb 23rd) to agree a deal, then purse bids will be called.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Tricky fight for Golovkin at this stage of his career.

Should have kept his IBF. Lara is not the guy. Would run rings around him at this stage

[Lusty]

Tricky fight for Golovkin at this stage of his career.

Lara is no spring chicken at this stage is he? Even by Cuban boxer standards.

[Samie]

Aye, both as old as fuck. But I feel what made Golovkin a modern great he doesn't have that anymore.

[amir87]

Looking forward to Slough's second finest product Adam Azim main eventing this Saturday.

[Samie]

Looking forward to Slough's second finest product Adam Azim main eventing this Saturday.

He's a talent mate, will be big if he's got the right people around him.

By the way is Crosby Nick Slough's finest?

[FlashGordon]

He's a talent mate, will be big if he's got the right people around him.

By the way is Crosby Nick Slough's finest?

David Brent surely?

[1892tillforever]

Should have kept his IBF. Lara is not the guy. Would run rings around him at this stage

Lara has had a strange career. He turned pro almost 15 years ago and has had only 35 fights. 3 narrow points defeats (2 SDs and an MD), one to ginger that was likely bollocks, one to Jarrett Hurd where a 12th round knockdown cost him and one to Paul Williams the fight after Williams was nearly decapitated by Maravilla. An awkward customer and exceptional technician at his best but never seemed to push on.

[amir87]

He's a talent mate, will be big if he's got the right people around him.

By the way is Crosby Nick Slough's finest?

Yeah hopefully keeps his focus as he progresses in his career. Certainly getting a lot of attention recently.

Bumped into him recently, seems like a nice lad.

And regarding Nick being number 1... how dare you son!

[Samie]

David Brent surely?

Below Nick. 

[Samie]

Lara has had a strange career. He turned pro almost 15 years ago and has had only 35 fights. 3 narrow points defeats (2 SDs and an MD), one to ginger that was likely bollocks, one to Jarrett Hurd where a 12th round knockdown cost him and one to Paul Williams the fight after Williams was nearly decapitated by Maravilla. An awkward customer and exceptional technician at his best but never seemed to push on.

Was a card carrying member of the " Who Needs Him Club" mate. Awkward customer that troubled everyone.

[1892tillforever]

Was a card carrying member of the " Who Needs Him Club" mate. Awkward customer that troubled everyone.

I know that a lot of fighters avoided him but you would think he'd have kept himself ticking over but never did.

[Fiasco]

AJ talking about 'money money money' in relation to his motivation now. He says he's focused and is putting everything into his boxing now but when your motivation is money then I think the game is up. By all means continue to make plenty of it, but he can't be skint by now surely. Fighting for money alone means one day he's going to get laid clean out chasing the coin.

[Samie]

If that's his motivation now he's done at the top level. And he doesn't need it as he's probably in top #3 cash cows of Boxing behind Canelo and Fury now.

[deano2727]

Can't blame him. He knows he doesn't have what it takes to beat Usyk or Fury.

[jizzspunk]

AJ talking about 'money money money' in relation to his motivation now. He says he's focused and is putting everything into his boxing now but when your motivation is money then I think the game is up. By all means continue to make plenty of it, but he can't be skint by now surely. Fighting for money alone means one day he's going to get laid clean out chasing the coin.

Cheapest seat in the Lower Tier (not the floor) @ O2 is 150 plus fees totalling 170 quid for a half reasonable view...not even a title on the line for the headliner...obscene 👀

[Coolie High]

Everybody’s motivation is  money at least partly , he’s just stating the obvious, the greatest boxer of this generation was called ‘Money May.’

[Songs to Sing]

Yeah. Not much to read into his comments. You want him to say the same sh*t every conference? He’s saying money now because everyone knows he could’ve gone for a bigger name like wilder. But why not pocket millions and then take that and those millions later? Anyone would do that. Esp since he’s lost to usyk twice. Fury needs to fight usyk then we need to see fury Joshua soon

[Fiasco]

Yeah. Not much to read into his comments. You want him to say the same sh*t every conference? He’s saying money now because everyone knows he could’ve gone for a bigger name like wilder. But why not pocket millions and then take that and those millions later? Anyone would do that. Esp since he’s lost to usyk twice. Fury needs to fight usyk then we need to see fury Joshua soon

I don't think the comments are insignificant. He must be stupid rich by now and if he's at the top the money will come by extension. He doesn't and shouldn't be chasing money at 33 years of age, having been in about a dozen world title fights.

[rawcusk8]

Got an estimated net worth of around £70m+ how much more money does he want? Don’t blame him or any boxer that is motivated by money, they step in to the ring and risk their lives. What I would hate to see is another Khan vs Brook scenario where two washed up past their best fighters had their grudge match way too late. Hope AJ fights Wilder then Fury and then calls it a day, enjoy your money in Dubai or wherever these rich folks bugger off to.

[Samie]

Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez is reportedly now in the works and being planned for May/June in the UK. No deal yet, but it appears Taylor is ready to move on from the Jack Catterall rematch for the time being. [@MikeCoppinger]

[Fordy]

Poor from Taylor if true and you have to doubt if he is injured currently.

He needs to fight the man that beat his arse first before anything.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Taylor not the first man to get a gift and won't be the last.

I am not bothered if he moves on.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Got an estimated net worth of around £70m+ how much more money does he want? Don’t blame him or any boxer that is motivated by money, they step in to the ring and risk their lives. What I would hate to see is another Khan vs Brook scenario where two washed up past their best fighters had their grudge match way too late. Hope AJ fights Wilder then Fury and then calls it a day, enjoy your money in Dubai or wherever these rich folks bugger off to.

He would be worth a hell of a lot more than that I reckon.

The money talk is by itself nothing but I find it funny because a couple of days back Eddie was talking about how he doesn't care about money he just wants his titles back

[Usman1987]

Very impressed by Adam Azim tonight