Topic: Happy Valley

[Crosby Nick]

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What about the PE teacher? Will he report his wife dead or is he smart enough to know he’d probably be the prime suspect? Will the pharmacist get away with it? Will that storyline merge with the other one? So many people in need of their comeuppance!

As for Tommy Lee (great escape!)…he’ll surely come back for Ryan and have a showdown of some sort with Catherine.

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[John C]

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The PE Teacher appears to want to groom Ryan, we've only got 2 episodes for that story-line to develop.


There's deffo going to be a show-down with Tommy & Catherine and I wonder if Ryan might have to come to the rescue?

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[Barefoot Doctor]

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The end has to come back to Catherine, Tommy and Ryan. Ryan torn between the two, likely with him siding with Catherine and turning against Tommy for good. Agree it probably ends with Tommy dead.

As soon as the PE teacher zoned in on that suitcase in the garage you just knew the wife's body was in there. Definitely felt like they were going down a grooming route with him and Ryan but hard to see how they fit that in now. Presumably he's going to be a bit more preoccupied with disposing of his wife's body than grooming Ryan?

Why do the gang want Tommy out of jail? If he's got info that can hurt them, they'd just get to him in prison. So clearly there's a job to be done on the outside that only he can do - but what?

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[Alan_X]

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The PE Teacher appears to want to groom Ryan, we've only got 2 episodes for that story-line to develop.


There's deffo going to be a show-down with Tommy & Catherine and I wonder if Ryan might have to come to the rescue?

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It was mentioned earlier in the series - after the teacher had been horrible to him at the football. Someone said he has a habit of being horrible then making friends. I'll have to watch back.

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[UntouchableLuis]

Great stuff but

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felt a bit mad how someone can escape the Dock like that. Especially a hardened criminal. Felt like that Line of Duty episode where someone shoots their way out the police headquarters...

I think it ends with Tommy trying to kill Ryan and Catherine saves him. Maybe Catherine and Tommy both die.

As for the P.E teacher I think he might end up arrested and go down for it. Would be quite a fitting end for that scumbag

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[Kenny's Jacket]

Great stuff but

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felt a bit mad how someone can escape the Dock like that. Especially a hardened criminal. Felt like that Line of Duty episode where someone shoots their way out the police headquarters...

I think it ends with Tommy trying to kill Ryan and Catherine saves him. Maybe Catherine and Tommy both die.

As for the P.E teacher I think he might end up arrested and go down for it. Would be quite a fitting end for that scumbag

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Thats what I shouted on Sunday

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all very Dot Cotton

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[John C]

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It was mentioned earlier in the series - after the teacher had been horrible to him at the football. Someone said he has a habit of being horrible then making friends. I'll have to watch back.

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You're right Al, that was said, so we'll need to see what happens.

[andyrol]

So no more Happy Valley after these last two episodes BUT ive heard that if viewing figures are good ( and they are-beat Harrys interview the other week) that there may be a spin off commissioned by the BBC- again Sally Wainwright written and directed .

[Alan_X]

Great stuff but

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felt a bit mad how someone can escape the Dock like that. Especially a hardened criminal. Felt like that Line of Duty episode where someone shoots their way out the police headquarters...

I think it ends with Tommy trying to kill Ryan and Catherine saves him. Maybe Catherine and Tommy both die.

As for the P.E teacher I think he might end up arrested and go down for it. Would be quite a fitting end for that scumbag

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/03/man-leaps-out-of-crown-court-dock-and-flees-after-sentencing

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[sinnermichael]

The guy who plays Faisal was on the Happy Valley podcast and says that they've filmed several endings so even the cast don't know how it will actually end.

[sinnermichael]

And breathe.

[Ziltoid]

Stolen from Twitter

[killer-heels]

Ha!

[Buck Pete]

So tonight it all comes to an end.

Carnage will ensue I feel.

[Crosby Nick]

So tonight it all comes to an end.

Carnage will ensue I feel.

Stick your neck out Pete!

I reckon they’ll all live happily ever after and Catherine, Ryan and Tommy will head off to the Himalayas in her Land Rover.

[Buck Pete]

Stick your neck out Pete!

I reckon they’ll all live happily ever after and Catherine, Ryan and Tommy will head off to the Himalayas in her Land Rover.

I do have an O’level in “stating the bleedin’ obvious”

[reddebs]

Started watching it from series 1 tonight. 

I've no idea what I thought it would be like or what it was about but it's nothing like I expected.

It's shocked me a bit 😯

[S]

I don’t understand how people enjoy shows like this when the standard of television drama is so high elsewhere.

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I don’t understand how people enjoy shows like this when the standard of television drama is so high elsewhere.

What because it’s not glossy enough?

[jillcwhomever]

I don’t understand how people enjoy shows like this when the standard of television drama is so high elsewhere.

You always think the shows you watch yourself are the best, but as in life everyone has a different taste. I can't say I have watched Happy Valley but I am not a great lover of detective shows although I have watched one or two. 

[Barefoot Doctor]

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Really good I thought. Very understated and subverted expectations. Expectation was Ryan to be torn between Tommy and Catherine, not a bit of it. And the confrontation between Tommy and Catherine being verbal rather than physical.

Could have done with ten more minutes to breathe though. The stuff with the teacher and the pharmacist didn’t really pay off, and was just wrapped up with a couple of lines. Also, would have liked to have seen Ann in the finale reacting to Tommy’s death, same with Ryan.

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[Buck Pete]

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mmmh. Not sure the desperate words of a overdosing suicidal rapist and mass murderer would be enough to convict Darius of murder in a court of law

Could have done with another episode to wrap up the Faisal and school teacher story arc a bit more convincingly

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Still a decent Finale like.

[Wabaloolah]

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Really good I thought. Very understated and subverted expectations. Expectation was Ryan to be torn between Tommy and Catherine, not a bit of it. And the confrontation between Tommy and Catherine being verbal rather than physical.

Could have done with ten more minutes to breathe though. The stuff with the teacher and the pharmacist didn’t really pay off, and was just wrapped up with a couple of lines. Also, would have liked to have seen Ann in the finale reacting to Tommy’s death, same with Ryan.
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yeah don't think they really tied all the storylines up properly.


Thought it was a good finale, although not sure she would have entered the house if she thought a psychopath has forced his way in.


It did show TLR a bit more human the episode I thought, not just a nutter

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[Wabaloolah]

Started watching it from series 1 tonight. 

I've no idea what I thought it would be like or what it was about but it's nothing like I expected.

It's shocked me a bit 😯

stick with it Debs

[SenorGarcia]

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Was decent up until the last five minutes. Killing TLR offscreen with a text message?

The pharmacist storyline, that let’s face it no one cared about, getting solved by Catherine in a throwaway line. Oh and the teacher was a pedo for good measure too.

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It’s a decent watch on a Sunday evening but I do agree with S that there are multiple higher quality shows knocking around these days.

[Buck Pete]

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Was decent up until the last five minutes. Killing TLR offscreen with a text message?

The pharmacist storyline, that let’s face it no one cared about, getting solved by Catherine in a throwaway line. Oh and the teacher was a pedo for good measure too.

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It’s a decent watch on a Sunday evening but I do agree with S that there are multiple higher quality shows knocking around these days.

Us brits love a kitchen sink drama

I see happy Valley as a Soap with a much higher production budget.

At least HV didn’t jump the shark like Line of Duty did several series ago.

[Barefoot Doctor]

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Was decent up until the last five minutes. Killing TLR offscreen with a text message?

The pharmacist storyline, that let’s face it no one cared about, getting solved by Catherine in a throwaway line. Oh and the teacher was a pedo for good measure too.

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It’s a decent watch on a Sunday evening but I do agree with S that there are multiple higher quality shows knocking around these days.

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Thought killing off Tommy like that was inspired. He was a nothing of a person, so he didn’t deserve a grand exit.

Teacher being a paedo was well set up, I enjoyed the storyline but it was definitely undercooked in the end. Not a patch on the season 2 secondary storyline with the murderous cop slowly losing his mind.

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[SenorGarcia]

Us brits love a kitchen sink drama

I see happy Valley as a Soap with a much higher production budget.

At least HV didn’t jump the shark like Line of Duty did several series ago.

Agreed completely. It’s not even a criticism; there’s some great performances in it but it’s very much reaction driven, trying to get people talking/tweeting about it. Sometimes you just have to switch your brain off and enjoy popcorn television.

So no I didn’t love the finale, but yes it was far better than Line Of Duty’s send off.

[SenorGarcia]

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Thought killing off Tommy like that was inspired. He was a nothing of a person, so he didn’t deserve a grand exit.

Teacher being a paedo was well set up, I enjoyed the storyline but it was definitely undercooked in the end. Not a patch on the season 2 secondary storyline with the murderous cop slowly losing his mind.

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He might have been nothing of a person, but he was a domineering character in the show. To kill him off screen after 3 seasons of his name being mentioned every other sentence is half cooked.

Not sure how the teacher being a paedo was well setup either. We had one shot of him looking at Ryan’s arse and another mention that he made friends with kids after bullying them. It had very little link to the main storyline and just seemed tagged on. Each to their own but I think the fact he was a wife beater was plenty bad enough, without just chucking that storyline in at the last moment.

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[Wabaloolah]

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He might have been nothing of a person, but he was a domineering character in the show. To kill him off screen after 3 seasons of his name being mentioned every other sentence is half cooked.

Not sure how the teacher being a paedo was well setup either. We had one shot of him looking at Ryan’s arse and another mention that he made friends with kids after bullying them. It had very little link to the main storyline and just seemed tagged on. Each to their own but I think the fact he was a wife beater was plenty bad enough, without just chucking that storyline in at the last moment.

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to be fair he did set himself on fire, hardly likely to survive with that amount of burns. Might have been better had he been declared dead at the scene but think it was a fitting finale for him

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[sheepfest]

Still suspicious of Uncle Neil.

[sinnermichael]

Haha.

https://twitter.com/KieranCHodgson/status/1623589398422904832?t=9mPhr3xLyqmBrBRPyg0X2w&s=19

[Buck Pete]

Haha.

https://twitter.com/KieranCHodgson/status/1623589398422904832?t=9mPhr3xLyqmBrBRPyg0X2w&s=19

haha. fucking brilliant

[Crosby Nick]

The Claire and Neil ones are so spot on.

[UntouchableLuis]

Great impressions!

On the finale. I've had time to reflect now:

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it wasn't the worst finale I've seen but it wasn't brilliant either. I did fear they wouldn't be able to do all the story lines justice with one episode remaining.

In terms of the main story of Catherine, Ryan and TLR I thought it was a bit underwhelming. TLR has been obsessed with Ryan for years and had this big plan to run away with him. Ryan pretty much tells Catherine that he's picked her over him. It would have been satisfying to see Ryan reject his dad to his face.

TLR being helped to escape was the most baffling aspect as within a day or so of getting out they decide to kill him anyway?

The scene with TLR and Catherine in her kitchen I found to be a bit all over the place and comical. I didn't buy that the TLR we had come to know would turn into a big emotional softee and suddenly say Catherine is ok. Perhaps it was the drink talking or he knew he was dying but I didn't find it consistent with his character.

As for the sub plot of the pharmacist and the P.E teacher- it was more rushed than the Game of Thrones final. How did all that end then, the stuff we've been building up all series? Oh just chuck a one line from the chief inspector about it to wrap it all up...

Overall it was a good series. Series 1 was excellent and 2 pretty strong. 3 was OK.

More and more series don't seem to know how to end though. I don't think you'll ever get a worse finale than GOT or Line of Duty mind.

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[redgriffin73]

Haha.

https://twitter.com/KieranCHodgson/status/1623589398422904832?t=9mPhr3xLyqmBrBRPyg0X2w&s=19

Brilliant