Author Topic: Hull City - Protest (Read 69484 times)

Rome-77 · « **Reply #440 on:** April 27, 2015, 10:46:15 pm »

Quote from: Graham Smith on April 27, 2015, 10:39:45 pm

In hand

nice one

MerseyParadise · « **Reply #441 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:06:22 am »

Good luck SOS , could a Picket of the club shop not be organised so we can have some kind of mass protest at home without people having to miss the game that they will most likely have paid well in advance for?

MerseyParadise · « **Reply #442 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:08:25 am »

Quote from: Perkins on April 27, 2015, 09:53:11 pm

Well done all involved, this already has stimulated discussion and anything else is a bonus for me

Well in the Union, I have bought a kids ticket for tomorrow

Yea even Old Fat head had some very kind words for the protest... have to appreciate the irony of Sky covering ticket prices in a piece where they attempted to take the moral high ground... if they hadn't have invented football in 1992 and created a chasm at the top of the football pyramid we might not be suffering the prices we are now.

macca888 · « **Reply #443 on:** April 28, 2015, 02:02:45 am »

Good luck to everyone tomorrow. Hope it goes well and gets picked up and reported on by all the usual media channels.

the 92A · « **Reply #444 on:** April 28, 2015, 09:24:35 am »

If this goes well brilliant piece of action, and well done to those organising it, really impressive just to try never mind pull it off.

Nick110581 · « **Reply #445 on:** April 28, 2015, 09:43:56 am »

Is this on TV tonight? Be good to see our end empty

Mighty_Red · « **Reply #446 on:** April 28, 2015, 09:53:42 am »

Quote from: Nick110581 on April 28, 2015, 09:43:56 am

Is this on TV tonight? Be good to see our end empty

Not in the UK as far as I'm aware so hopefully there will be a stream of some sort. Might be more embarrassing for the empty seats to be seen in foreign countries

Alan_X · « **Reply #447 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:26:27 am »

Quote from: The 92A on April 28, 2015, 09:24:35 am

If this goes well brilliant piece of action, and well done to those organising it, really impressive just to try never mind pull it off.

Completely agree. Great piece of work.

Giovanni · « **Reply #448 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:38:33 am »

Quote from: redalways on April 27, 2015, 05:33:44 pm

Of course he cant support the protest.

If he doesn't support it fine, don't patronise us though.

Steve Bruce showed that you don't have to hide behind your paymaster.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #449 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:54:44 am »

I guess the best publicity these days is to somehow get a nice photo of the empty seats from a good vantage point in the Hull section on the side nearest the away end (a pretty vociferous lot thinking back to last year) and get all hands to try & get it trending on twatter. Sorry,probably teaching granny to suck eggs there.

Alan_X · « **Reply #450 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:59:15 am »

Quote from: Giovanni on April 28, 2015, 10:38:33 am

If he doesn't support it fine, don't patronise us though.

Steve Bruce showed that you don't have to hide behind your paymaster.

Bruce declined the opportunity to blame Hull and passed it off onto the Premier League. It's good that both commented on the cost to supporters. God only knows why people are bigging up Bruce and slagging off our own manager.

archie · « **Reply #451 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:27:44 am »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on April 27, 2015, 01:22:59 pm

I see a load of people fuming on him over this on social media, but not sure what else he's meant to say, especially as he's still maybe not 100% comfortable keeping his job

Not to distract from this thread but it's sad that some are using this as a stick to beat the manager with.

I suppose, like ticket prices, it's a sign of the times.

Graham Smith · « **Reply #452 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:31:03 am »

Don't get ahead of ourselves.

It is a 2,500 allocation - if we can get 500 that is a massive statement bearing in mind the speed and issues involved.

It won't be tumbleweeds but it should be noticeable.

The major point here is that we are showing our own support their power and also giving other Clubs the nudge to start doing similar.

Another small step.

Alan_X · « **Reply #453 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:32:13 am »

Quote from: LFC4LIFENET on April 28, 2015, 11:28:17 am

I don't see the point in starting Johnson personally....

Err...

redk84 · « **Reply #454 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:32:22 am »

well done to those who have organised this protest and gotbrought attention to it.

Hope the intention of it is made clear tonight and it has already been mentioned in various media outlets which is a bonus.

As for the match....hope we win! Any way will do....we need the result more than the performance right now.

Alan_X · « **Reply #455 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:32:58 am »

Quote from: Le_Mot_Juste on April 28, 2015, 11:18:44 am

This basically operating as the pre-match thread then?

No

LFC UNTIL THE MANAGER IS NO LONGER DESERVING OF MY SYMPATHY · « **Reply #456 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:33:04 am »

Quote from: Alan_X on April 28, 2015, 11:32:13 am

Err...

Sorry, thought it was the match thread and I couldn't see another one.

CraigDS · « **Reply #457 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:33:24 am »

Quote from: Graham Smith on April 28, 2015, 11:31:03 am

Don't get ahead of ourselves.

It is a 2,500 allocation - if we can get 500 that is a massive statement bearing in mind the speed and issues involved.

It won't be tumbleweeds but it should be noticeable.

The major point here is that we are showing our own support their power and also giving other Clubs the nudge to start doing similar.

Another small step.

I'd be surprised if you didn't have well over 500 going by the comments I've been seeing about people buying them.

Hopefully they're in decent sized pockets of seats, and that the ones who do go don't move around to fill up better located seats and that gives the impression of more being there.

Alan_X · « **Reply #458 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:34:47 am »

A lot of people have put a lot of effort into this. Why would anyone think it's right the place to post about the match?

LFC UNTIL THE MANAGER IS NO LONGER DESERVING OF MY SYMPATHY · « **Reply #459 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:38:39 am »

Quote from: Alan_X on April 28, 2015, 11:34:47 am

A lot of people have put a lot of effort into this. Why would anyone think it's right the place to post about the match?

Someone above me was talking about the match, I didn't see a match thread - so I assumed it was the match thread.

Obviously I was wrong, sorry again.

Can you point me in the right direction please?

Alan_X · « **Reply #460 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:50:33 am »

I don't think anyone has started one yet.

Graham Smith · « **Reply #461 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:03:25 pm »

Monday 27 April 2015 at 11:43
For two years Spirit of Shankly has been at the forefront of a national campaign to get a fair deal on ticket prices for all football supporters.

From national demonstrations to public meetings and banners at matches, Spirit of Shankly has worked with “Spion Kop 1906” and with supporters organisations from Everton, Arsenal, Spurs, Manchester City, Manchester United and many others to get the message across.

This campaign steps up a gear on Tuesday night when we estimate that more than 500 seats will be empty in the Liverpool section of Hull City’s KC Stadium. Liverpool supporters have purchased concessionary tickets and will be staying away from the game.

This action has been achieved through co-operation between Spion Kop 1906, the organisers of away supporters’ coaches, Liverpool supporters’ websites and Spirit of Shankly. It has also required a financial commitment from the people participating in the protest. Many supporters have offered to make their own financial contribution to assist those who may not be able to afford this commitment and to support future actions.

Following this, Spirit of Shankly has launched a Campaign Fund that you can donate to via PayPal using payments@spiritofshankly.com and inserting “Campaign Fund” in the message box.*

Any contribution you can make, from £1 to the £10 price of a concessionary ticket for the Hull City fixture, will be gratefully received.

Your donations will be ring-fenced for the ticket price campaign, which has already resulted in a £200,000 “away fans’ initiative” at every Premier League club.

This is your campaign, please play your part and donate.

*To donate, visit www.paypal.com and use the Send option at the top. The process is self explanatory.

ashleyrose-66 · « **Reply #462 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:08:41 pm »

Quote from: Alan_X on April 28, 2015, 11:50:33 am

I don't think anyone has started one yet.

I just did...

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=320964.0

If people want to talk formations, Balotelli, rumours of Yesil starting etc - head that way. This thread is about the protest.

BCCC · « **Reply #463 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:14:47 pm »

Quote from: Graham Smith on April 21, 2015, 05:44:59 pm

Union is massively involved in the TWG, which has reached the point of looking at match day prices for next season. I hope you can guess what our view is about the general admission prices?

Union looking to do what it can for all buying tickets.

Gave up on the original PTS scheme as soon as looked at it though. If you'd focused on saving that you wouldn't have the situation you have now, it opened up the flood gates for the whoppers with most money by wiping out loyalty overnight.

Graham Smith · « **Reply #464 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:21:01 pm »

Quote from: BCCC on April 28, 2015, 12:14:47 pm

Gave up on the original PTS scheme as soon as looked at it though. If you'd focused on saving that you wouldn't have the situation you have now, it opened up the flood gates for the whoppers with most money by wiping out loyalty overnight.

Club were intent on that no doubt to open out to more visitors who spend more at the ground.

The whole confidence trick of the Membership is being reviewed by the Club.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #465 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:22:30 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 28, 2015, 11:33:24 am

I'd be surprised if you didn't have well over 500 going by the comments I've been seeing about people buying them.

Hopefully they're in decent sized pockets of seats, and that the ones who do go don't move around to fill up better located seats and that gives the impression of more being there.

Yep. And those who do go that are basically sympathetic to the boycott but are going anyway either through not wanting to miss the match or not realising until after adult tickets were bought (both understandable) can still help by moving to a relatively fuller area if they find themselves in a relatively emptier area.

Incidentally, probably goes without saying, but even any regulars who attend because they fundamentally don't agree with the boycott should have their views respected. Might not understand it, but it can't become a divisive thing. We're all Reds at the end of the day.

Working in London today. See you outside 30 Gloucester Place.

Rome-77 · « **Reply #466 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:23:07 pm »

BCCC · « **Reply #467 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:26:36 pm »

Quote from: Graham Smith on April 28, 2015, 12:21:01 pm

Club were intent on that no doubt to open out to more visitors who spend more at the ground.

The whole confidence trick of the Membership is being reviewed by the Club.

Exactly and SOS sat back and let that happen.

Jake · « **Reply #468 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:56:26 pm »

I know some people say respect all views, but I dunno, I see those going tonight as scabs.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #469 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:01:52 pm »

Quote from: Le Jake on April 28, 2015, 12:56:26 pm

I know some people say respect all views, but I dunno, I see those going tonight as scabs.

We'll have to agree to disagree there mate. Think of the best way to get more numbers on board in the future and what approach that should be. People can be persuaded. You don't get far dictating to.

bunjibloomer · « **Reply #470 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:04:11 pm »

Well done to all involved. The problem is starting to get more and more into the media, spotlighting the problem which is great.

Some excellent points made about the cost of reducing away tickets for all on TAW's latest offering, which goes to show it's a drop in the ocean compared to the figures bandied around for tv rights in the whole. Scandalous stuff what fans are expected to fork out to watch a game of footy, not alone travel etc!!!

Best of luck to all protesting. Hopefully this gives the campaign a big boost into the spotlight. YNWA

Jake · « **Reply #471 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:06:38 pm »

Quote from: Red_Mist on April 28, 2015, 01:01:52 pm

We'll have to agree to disagree there mate. Think of the best way to get more numbers on board in the future and what approach that should be. People can be persuaded. You don't get far dictating to.

Yeah I'm not going to give anyone dogs abuse for going, it's only my opinion. I just feel that there's a bigger picture and it's selfish (but in some cases understandable) to not join in the effort for your fellow man.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #472 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:18:27 pm »

Quote from: Le Jake on April 28, 2015, 01:06:38 pm

Yeah I'm not going to give anyone dogs abuse for going, it's only my opinion. I just feel that there's a bigger picture and it's selfish (but in some cases understandable) to not join in the effort for your fellow man.

Fair enough. I think we're roughly in agreement then. Just think scab is an emotive word and not one that applies tonight in any way.

Shanklygates · « **Reply #473 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:30:10 pm »

I wondered if people will move around and spread out too $:-\$ Hopefully not or that it is still noticeable.

Statto Red · « **Reply #474 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:37:42 pm »

I remember Man City fans doing a similar boycott at Arsenal a couple of years ago, Arsenal charged £35 for aways for some games, but charged City £62.

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #475 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:40:59 pm »

Quote from: DangerScouse on April 24, 2015, 02:27:23 am

Definitely should have targeted the Chelsea game. As unacceptable as it is, the mark up is largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The cost of away tickets across the board are extortionate and the Chelsea game would have given maximum exposure. No question it would really have grabbed peoples attention far more in comparison to a non televised, largely meaningless game.

I've seen this highlighted by people an awful lot, overlooking the fact that it will be live around the world. It's only the UK broadcasters generally, that are not legally allowed to televise this match.

Do you think the clubs and the sponsors and the PL themselves will be aware of the global exposure this will get as a result, if successful? Of course they will.

And as has been stated endless times now - it's a first step. Hopefully one of many. But you don't pick a fight you're likely to lose as a first step, or you risk pulling the plug on any support you had before you've even started.

Graham Smith · « **Reply #476 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:49:01 pm »

Quote from: BCCC on April 28, 2015, 12:26:36 pm

Exactly and SOS sat back and let that happen.

Yeah, that's right. Sat back.

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #477 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:51:58 pm »

Quote from: Graham Smith on April 28, 2015, 12:21:01 pm

Club were intent on that no doubt to open out to more visitors who spend more at the ground.

The whole confidence trick of the Membership is being reviewed by the Club.

I sincerely hope it's being reviewed, because quite honestly it's being mis-sold as it stands.

Anyway, that's for another thread.

4pool · « **Reply #478 on:** April 28, 2015, 02:00:48 pm »

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Buck Pete · « **Reply #479 on:** April 28, 2015, 02:11:02 pm »

Quote from: Red_Mist on April 28, 2015, 01:18:27 pm

Fair enough. I think we're roughly in agreement then. Just think scab is an emotive word and not one that applies tonight in any way.

Exactly and people using that word to fans who happen to go to Hull tonight should be extremely fucking careful who they say it to.

Was talking to a load of scousers on Smethwick station after the game on Saturday about the protest, and I'm taking about lads who go EVERYWHERE, home, away and Europe and have done for hundreds and hundreds of games. Some of these lads are going on tonight and do understand and respect what SOS are trying to achieve tonight.

But one thing is certain, if that word 'Scab' gets banded around at people fists will be flying. To compare a fan going to Hull tonight against a strike breaking miner is wrong on so many levels.