Topic: Hull City - Protest

[Timeless Melody]

Tony Barrett

Rodgers on Liverpool fans ticket prices boycott at Hull City: "I respect their right to protest."

Well said Brendan.

[Jake]

Tony Barrett

Rodgers on Liverpool fans ticket prices boycott at Hull City: "I respect their right to protest."

Well said that man.

[Liamski-la]

I'd not read to much into Rodgers words in print. It's the neutral thing to say and he can't say anything else. It certainly doesn't say he is in support of it.

[Jake]

He's hardly going to say "yeah my boss and my colleagues bosses are ripping them off" is he? And some other managers would toe the party line. I think it's a veiled support, which is the best he could do.

[Timeless Melody]

“I was made aware of the issue,” Rodgers said.

“I respect the supporters’ right to protest. Supporters nowadays have to work very hard to earn the money to get to football games. I respect their right to protest.”

[Dave D]

He respects the fans right to protest, but does he agree with it?

[Alan_X]

He's hardly going to say "yeah my boss and my colleagues bosses are ripping them off" is he? And some other managers would toe the party line. I think it's a veiled support, which is the best he could do.

Exactly.

[redgriffin73]

It's far preferable to what the Hodge said about our H&G protests.

[garcia-alonso]

It's far preferable to what the Hodge said about our H&G protests.

Was thinking exactly the same. He could also have said he wasn't aware of it and couldn't comment, but he chose not to. Good on him.

[Redman0151]

Tony Barrett

Rodgers on Liverpool fans ticket prices boycott at Hull City: "I respect their right to protest."

I see a load of people fuming on him over this on social media, but not sure what else he's meant to say, especially as he's still maybe not 100% comfortable keeping his job

[Johnny Foreigner]

As we live in a democracy, the "respect the right to protest" is a nothing comment..

It wouldn't have been a problem to offer a little general support without writing a resignation letter..

If SOS or any other supporter organisation had written a letter to the board asking for Rodgers to resign; he still would have respected their right to protest right ?

 

[Alan_X]

I see a load of people fuming on him over this on social media, but not sure what else he's meant to say, especially as he's still maybe not 100% comfortable keeping his job

Fuming about what? That he hasn't resigned in sympathy and pledged to picket the ground personally? Some people need to get a bit of perspective.

[anything else]

Aye, people don't tend to speak out in public against their employers - for good reason.
Either way very lad to see this protest is going ahead, I only hope it gets noticed. On its own it really cant have much of an affect and will likely get glossed over, we can only hope that supporters of other clubs will take similar action to the point that Sky, BT et al cant ignore it.

[Hij]

As we live in a democracy, the "respect the right to protest" is a nothing comment..

It wouldn't have been a problem to offer a little general support without writing a resignation letter..

If SOS or any other supporter organisation had written a letter to the board asking for Rodgers to resign; he still would have respected their right to protest right ?

Did you read the bit where he says supporters have to work hard to raise money to get to games?

[Johnny Foreigner]

Did you read the bit where he says supporters have to work hard to raise money to get to games?

Yes, I read that. For me that would be for those who put in an extra shift and made a conscious priority between goods/services and chose the match.

For more and more people, that choice doesn’t exist anymore when it costs 50+ for every game.

In order for the prices to drop; there would have to lower wages for players, managers and the Ian Ayre’s of the world.

So if Rodgers came out with strong support, he would directly/indirectly lobby against his squad, superiors and ultimately his own profession.

He chose not to and I can fully understand his reasons; but he could just as well has said “no comments”. His “respect the right” is no support whatsoever

[Hij]

Yes, I read that. For me that would be for those who put in an extra shift and made a conscious priority between goods/services and chose the match.

Oh so he's indirectly condoning the ticket prices and the people who help them exist by working extra shifts (like me).

He chose not to and I can fully understand his reasons; but he could just as well has said “no comments”. His “respect the right” is no support whatsoever

Respectfully disagree, I'm not quite sure what more he could have said.

"These protests are not helping the team" or whatever it was that Hodgson said, that's no support at the true definition.

[Johnny Foreigner]

"These protests are not helping the team" or whatever it was that Hodgson said, that's no support at the true definition.

I would say Hodgsons quote is going against his own supporters.

Rodgers is neutral.

[GreenLaneRed27]

I would say Hodgsons quote is going against his own supporters.

Rodgers is neutral.

I actually think he was being as supportive as he could be in his current predicament... He even backs it up with highlighting the cost of tickets compared to wage etc... There was definitely some support there imo

[4pool]

I would say Hodgsons quote is going against his own supporters.

Rodgers is neutral.

And if you were manager you'd say exactly what?

[Johnny Foreigner]

And if you were manager you'd say exactly what?

Nothing as I’d prefer to pick up my wages and avoid to rock the boat.

If I would chose to offer genuine support and be admired amongst my supporters; something like “This is not an issue LFC can’t handle on its own – and a drastic reduction in revenues from ticketing would distort the competitiveness of the club, but we are clearly at a crossroads for the supporters, when the cheapest tickets are crossing the 50-pound barrier;  (and maybe something about the grassroots/working mans game”

[Giovanni]

Patronising pat on the head, nothing more.

IF he was genuinely bothered he'd be putting himself in the firing line like Naismith

[4pool]

Nothing as I’d prefer to pick up my wages and avoid to rock the boat.

If I would chose to offer genuine support and be admired amongst my supporters; something like “This is not an issue LFC can’t handle on its own – and a drastic reduction in revenues from ticketing would distort the competitiveness of the club, but we are clearly at a crossroads for the supporters, when the cheapest tickets are crossing the 50-pound barrier;  (and maybe something about the grassroots/working mans game”

Well again, people are mixing up two different things.

The protest is against Hull City charging our away support high ticket prices compared to what they charged other visitors. That is clearly spelled out in the SOS op first page.

http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/hull-city-away-supporter-protest

LFC ticket pricing is a separate issue which SOS has been working with the club about.


Rodgers comments are about the protest of Hull City Away pricing.

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Tony Barrett ‏@TonyBarretTimes 44 seconds ago

Steve Bruce on ticket prices: "I hope the Premier League remembers that football does belong to supporters." Good stuff.

[Carlito Roberto]

I see a load of people fuming on him over this on social media, but not sure what else he's meant to say, especially as he's still maybe not 100% comfortable keeping his job

That's what social media is for isn't it, a platform for jobsworths to express their outrage over matters of little importance.

[Timeless Melody]

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-04-27/bruce-sympathises-with-liverpool-fans-over-ticket-prices/

Hull boss Steve Bruce has called for Barclays Premier League officials to act to curb rising ticket prices ahead of his side's KC Stadium clash with Liverpool on Tuesday.

Visiting fans' group Spirit of Shankly is organising a boycott of the game in protest at the £50 admission charge, and Bruce echoed his Liverpool counterpart Brendan Rodgers in backing its right to do so.

Bruce said: "I feel sorry for the supporters of big clubs who have to dig deep every week and I hope when the new TV money comes into play the Premier League can remember football does belong to supporters.

"I know how difficult it is for people here at our club to find the money to bring their two kids to a football match and we have to make sure with all the money washing around we give something back to the fans.

"We have to remember the average man in the street because they are the lifeblood of football and I think if the Premier League set certain rules we would all have to abide by them."

[Red_Mist]

Steve Bruce, he's got a big fat......round of applause.

[redgriffin73]

Good stuff fathead.

[OOS]

That's what social media is for isn't it, a platform for jobsworths to express their outrage over matters of little importance.

Also could organize supporters up and down the country into mass boycotts, standing up instead of giving over more money and moaning about in the process.

[Alan_X]

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-04-27/bruce-sympathises-with-liverpool-fans-over-ticket-prices/

Good stuff.

[Pistolero]

Always suspected the Victorian Prostitute was a tart with a heart...

[redalways]

Patronising pat on the head, nothing more.

IF he was genuinely bothered he'd be putting himself in the firing line like Naismith

Of course he cant support the protest.

[Craig S]

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Bruce's response is around 9:50

[LiverpoolKopKings]

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Bruce's response is around 9:50

Maximum respect for the man there. He really went out of his way to speak in favor of the supporter. And he is talking about his club's pricing to booth.

[KopiteWD]

Bruce supported the protest against his own club and he hasn't been sacked so I don't see why Rodgers couldn't be a bit more passionate and supportive about it.

[Adeemo]

Fair play to Steve Bruce there, he didn't need to give such an in depth response.

[DangerScouse]

Good to see this getting plenty of exposure and backing  on various online sites. Ironically Sky Sports tweeted something about it earlier.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-liverpool-fans-charged-50-watch-side-152445393--sow.html

Hopefully the beginning of something bigger and although I think the Chelsea game would get a lot more publicity it makes sense that this game was targeted.

I'd expect and hope this will get supporters from other teams to follow suit.

[Redman0151]

Good to see this getting plenty of exposure and backing  on various online sites. Ironically Sky Sports tweeted something about it earlier.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-liverpool-fans-charged-50-watch-side-152445393--sow.html

Hopefully the beginning of something bigger and although I think the Chelsea game would get a lot more publicity it makes sense that this game was targeted.

I'd expect and hope this will get supporters from other teams to follow suit.

I saw some of the responses to it from other fans on twitter, unfortunately some people still let tribalism get in the way. Lots saying "look how much LFC charge!" as if we're attempting to defend it, or that we don't have to pay the prices LFC charge every week either

[Johnny Foreigner]

He's hardly going to say "yeah my boss and my colleagues bosses are ripping them off" is he? And some other managers would toe the party line. I think it's a veiled support, which is the best he could do.

Steve Bruce just said it - and it will of course have no consequences for him.

Rodgers remained neutral; Bruce spoke out.

[Lord Vader]

That was a masterpiece of PR from bruce.

He puts nothing on the club and shifts it all to the premier league whilst supporting the fans position.

The reporter should have pushed "Well the premier league didn't boost the price hull city did. "

Kudos to bruce on how he handled it without going against his employer

The reason i don't bother with any pre-post match interviews is they are like being asked about your wife whilst she is stood at the side of you.
Only a fool would ever tell the truth!

I've seen these type of protests muted by many a teams support (didn't the gordies get 10,000 out last week?.)

Its the same as the "turn your back", leave after x mins but before you think "here we go another defeatist prick"

I just think protests need to be planned where they hurt the only the club(s). not the fans as it's both unfair and unmanageable as none of us have the right to tell some geezer he must miss his first game in 15 years etc.

Every time i read this thread i think "whopping great big black flag with statement on it" in the hull away end.

It would be no more than a voice, but it is one the media will pick up on.



Like the days when those 2 shysters were in charge organised boycotts of merchandise and other revenue which does not stop the supporter watching the game are the best path.

All they will see is market forces and whilst bums are on seats (or paid for empty ones) they won't really care. When their bean counters start to see a financial cost moves will be made.

The interesting point Bruce made was let the EPL set ticket prices.( The maximum would do) Can you image how quick that discussion would be at the agm with UTD, Plastics, Us etc sat there. You'd need a timer that could clock Usain bolt if you didn't time the laughter once it was posed.

[Mighty_Red]

Hope this is a real success and Hull feel it in their pocket. Might be an idea to repeat it next season if they try the same.

One thing, if their are any fans going to the match, instead of chastising them, maybe it would be worth getting them onside and get them to take flags/banners etc and put them across some of the the empty seats, just to hammer it home that this is a boycott not just Liverpool fans not turning up to the match.