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« Reply #80 on: September 7, 2021, 02:26:29 am »
This kid Tom Trbojevic (Turbo) really is something special, an absolute freak of the game.  In fact a freak athlete given he was highly sought after to play Australian Rules Football. 

I'm in no doubt that if he can avoid any more of the major hamstring injuries that have kept him off the field he'll go down as the greatest player to ever play the game.



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« Reply #81 on: September 7, 2021, 02:04:49 pm »
Hyping someone to be a great is part of the game as a fan but hyping someone to be the GOAT of the sport is a frickin' entire new thing.  ;D

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« Reply #82 on: September 7, 2021, 02:43:37 pm »
This kid Tom Trbojevic (Turbo) really is something special, an absolute freak of the game.  In fact a freak athlete given he was highly sought after to play Australian Rules Football. 

I'm in no doubt that if he can avoid any more of the major hamstring injuries that have kept him off the field he'll go down as the greatest player to ever play the game.




If he's a freak of nature then that might be why he gets so many hammy injuries

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« Reply #83 on: September 7, 2021, 02:57:01 pm »
Hyping someone to be a great is part of the game as a fan but hyping someone to be the GOAT of the sport is a frickin' entire new thing.  ;D

I was doing it with Messi pretty early on.  I'd say my track record is pretty good. haha  8)

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« Reply #84 on: September 7, 2021, 03:02:59 pm »
Let you on in a little secret mate...Messi ain't the GOAT either.  :P

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« Reply #85 on: September 7, 2021, 11:38:00 pm »
This kid Tom Trbojevic (Turbo) really is something special, an absolute freak of the game.  In fact a freak athlete given he was highly sought after to play Australian Rules Football. 

I'm in no doubt that if he can avoid any more of the major hamstring injuries that have kept him off the field he'll go down as the greatest player to ever play the game.

That Manly-Melbourne game on friday morning (10.50) should be decent, Manly hitting some form at just the right moment

(Penrith-Rabbitohs, Sat 7.50 should also be tasty)

The winner should come from those 4
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« Reply #86 on: September 8, 2021, 04:12:23 am »
This kid Tom Trbojevic (Turbo) really is something special, an absolute freak of the game.  In fact a freak athlete given he was highly sought after to play Australian Rules Football. 

I'm in no doubt that if he can avoid any more of the major hamstring injuries that have kept him off the field he'll go down as the greatest player to ever play the game.




Is he even the best out of the three that play in origin for NSW in the same positions (full-back/centre) - Trbojevic, Mitchell and Tedesco? All three are fantastic players, and I'd argue Mitchell is the most naturally talented.
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« Reply #87 on: September 8, 2021, 12:15:39 pm »
Not as bad as thought, he flew back with the rest apparently. Paasi got a 2 match ban.


The tackle wasn't actually that bad - a 2-game ban isn't entirely unreasonable, but it's harsh.

Meanwhile, the crusher tackle from Kasiano that could well have ended Bentley's season (and therefore time at Saints) has gone totally unpunished.

The disciplinary panel is an absolute farce, and I'm sick of Saints persistently getting the shitty end of the stick from them.
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« Reply #88 on: September 8, 2021, 02:21:33 pm »

The tackle wasn't actually that bad - a 2-game ban isn't entirely unreasonable, but it's harsh.

Meanwhile, the crusher tackle from Kasiano that could well have ended Bentley's season (and therefore time at Saints) has gone totally unpunished.

The disciplinary panel is an absolute farce, and I'm sick of Saints persistently getting the shitty end of the stick from them.

Agree 100 %. The Maloney one was completely ignored as well.
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Re: Rugby League
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2021, 10:38:42 am »
Play off Round 1

Melbourne v Manly

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-storm-v-sea-eagles-1265835/

Mullets, muggings and messy decisions

2nd v 3rd  Penrith Panthers v Russell Crowe's Sydney Rabbitohs

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-panthers-v-rabbitohs-1266082/

avoid the score for Sydney Roosters v Gold Coast Titans, classic finish.

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-roosters-v-titans-1266023/

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« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2021, 02:40:56 pm »
Just take 9 minutes out of your life and watch those last two, well worth it, especially if you don't know the scores
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« Reply #91 on: September 12, 2021, 10:39:00 pm »
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« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2021, 02:38:16 pm »
Play off Round 1

Melbourne v Manly

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-storm-v-sea-eagles-1265835/

Mullets, muggings and messy decisions

2nd v 3rd  Penrith Panthers v Russell Crowe's Sydney Rabbitohs

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-panthers-v-rabbitohs-1266082/

avoid the score for Sydney Roosters v Gold Coast Titans, classic finish.

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-roosters-v-titans-1266023/



Oof, some finish in that Roosters/Titans game!

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« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2021, 03:40:40 pm »
Oof, some finish in that Roosters/Titans game!


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« Reply #94 on: September 15, 2021, 12:10:16 am »
Next games up friday and saturday morning (1st Semi finals)
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« Reply #95 on: September 17, 2021, 12:00:18 am »
Manly Sea Eagles V Sydney Roosters 10.50am Friday

Parramatta Eels v Penrith Panthers 10.50am Saturday

5 minutes highlights should appear later in the day on the link below or both live on Sky

https://www.nrl.com/tv/matches/

Will be a shock if Penrith and Sydney do not win, then on to the proper semi finals
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« Reply #96 on: September 17, 2021, 03:43:27 pm »
Highlights from Manley Sea Eagles vs Sydney Roosters game, don't think many saw this result coming. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUep8kztYa0
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« Reply #97 on: September 17, 2021, 04:29:49 pm »
And another disciplinary farce sees Coote get a match ban for Saints.
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« Reply #98 on: September 17, 2021, 07:51:44 pm »
Highlights from Manley Sea Eagles vs Sydney Roosters game, don't think many saw this result coming. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUep8kztYa0

Also

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-sea-eagles-v-roosters-1268381/

And then look at latortuga's post at the top of the page
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« Reply #99 on: September 17, 2021, 07:59:21 pm »
And another disciplinary farce sees Coote get a match ban for Saints.

Absolutely. Ratface Tomkins slides in with the knees on the tryscorer at least once a game and nothing is ever said.

Let's see what Warrington's Cooper gets for a similar (if anything worse) than the one Makinson got 3 games for (reduced to 2 on appeal)

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« Reply #100 on: September 17, 2021, 08:02:19 pm »
Was talking to my grandad the other day about why Aussies are so superior to everyone else in League and he mentioned one thing that is known but rarely mentioned is that the speed of which they play at. They're basically like Kloppo at Dortmund or us circa 2018. No one can live at the pace they play at. We need to improve that if we are to ever beat the Aussies consistently.

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« Reply #101 on: September 17, 2021, 08:17:27 pm »
Was talking to my grandad the other day about why Aussies are so superior to everyone else in League and he mentioned one thing that is known but rarely mentioned is that the speed of which they play at. They're basically like Kloppo at Dortmund or us circa 2018. No one can live at the pace they play at. We need to improve that if we are to ever beat the Aussies consistently.

I don’t know what the splits are between Aussie Rules, Union and football but in big parts of the country League is clearly the main sport so they probably get first dibs on the best athletes. Can’t really say the same here. Even in the League heartlands, football is probably the bigger sport still I’d have thought.

Hard pitches and a good climate probably help with the pace of the game too.

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« Reply #102 on: September 17, 2021, 08:23:23 pm »
Aye, anything from Queensland down to New South Wales and League is the #1 sport.

Also mate if in the heartlands over here we're getting the football scraps for League athletes, why youse in Union always picking up fat bastards?  :P

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« Reply #103 on: September 17, 2021, 09:06:17 pm »
Was talking to my grandad the other day about why Aussies are so superior to everyone else in League and he mentioned one thing that is known but rarely mentioned is that the speed of which they play at. They're basically like Kloppo at Dortmund or us circa 2018. No one can live at the pace they play at. We need to improve that if we are to ever beat the Aussies consistently.

It was always fitness, practice and speed, all linked.

Most of the stuff they do is wired and instinctive.

The gap has closed at the same time as they have improved.
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« Reply #104 on: September 17, 2021, 09:13:31 pm »
It was always fitness, practice and speed, all linked.

Most of the stuff they do is wired and instinctive.

The gap has closed at the same time as they have improved.

Defensive line speed is a massive part of the NRL game and a major factor in the Aussie dominance on the international game.
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« Reply #105 on: September 18, 2021, 09:08:33 pm »
That's 4 of the 6 games in the play off that have been close finishes

Penrith Panthers v Paramatta Eels highlights here

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-panthers-v-eels-1268541/

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« Reply #106 on: September 20, 2021, 12:36:08 pm »
It was always fitness, practice and speed, all linked.

Most of the stuff they do is wired and instinctive.

The gap has closed at the same time as they have improved.



The British game is boring & predictable with defences too organised & set.

Watch games from the first decade of Super League and you see multiple line breaks and exciting, fast play because the RFL cracked down on players being allowed to slow the play-the-ball. As a result, defences were frequently not set in a regimented line and players could exploit that (Cunningham and Roby at Saints were brilliant for spotting a disorganised defence, then scooting into that space from dummy half, creating more disorganisation, so on the next tackle Saints would very often break a ragged defensive line and frequently score)

In 2008/2009, the authorities declared that more latitude would be given to defenders to clear the tackle. Some coaches began to take this to the extremes - Brown at Huddersfield, then Maguire at Wigan who introduced 'the wrestle' to extend the time the tackle seemed to be in progress and get the tackled player on their back to slow them getting to their feet even more - 'turtling' - followed by defenders timing their 'flop' onto a player being tackled to be just before the ref says 'held' then the 3/4 tackling players peel off one at a time. As that proved successful, more coaches followed and developed further techniques. The result is that with almost every play the ball, the defence is set. Then you have defending teams rotating the duty of rushing at the first receiver as soon as the ball is played, so they have no time to do anything but accept the tackle.

Abolishing the scrums and bringing in the 6-again (both temporary measures due to Covid) have made it worse. Then you have Warrington who, whenever an opposition player does make a break and Warrington's defence near their own line is in disarray, one of their players - usually that whingeing lump Chris Hill - will lie on the floor holding their head so the ref stops the game whilst the physio/doc runs on. By the time play restarts, the Warrington defenders are recovered, got some air in their lungs, and fully organised. Threat averted... by cheating.

The British game is going backwards.
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« Reply #107 on: September 23, 2021, 12:18:48 am »
Wigan v Leeds thursday

Warrington v Hull KR friday

also NRL South Sydney Rabbitohs v Manly Sea Eagles 10.50am friday, Manly the dark horses

What most people thought would be the final is Saturday 7am, Melbourne Storm v Penrith Panthers. Penrith looked unstoppable before the Origin games but have just scraped into the last 4.
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« Reply #108 on: September 23, 2021, 09:42:29 pm »
 Leeds beat Wigan 8-0, Wigan season is over, doesn't sound like a pretty enthralling match either
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« Reply #109 on: September 23, 2021, 11:04:13 pm »
When was the last time someone won with just a penalty in the game and it finished 2-0? ;D

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« Reply #110 on: September 24, 2021, 12:13:02 am »
Worst Wigan side in decades. Completely toothless in attack.

Now, over to Hull KR to shut up the Wire.
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« Reply #111 on: September 24, 2021, 09:47:47 pm »
Warrington just got shut out 19-0 at home by Hull KR :lmao :lmao

Semi final playoff line up next week
Catalan vs Hull KR
St Helens vs Leeds

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« Reply #112 on: September 25, 2021, 12:14:54 am »


1st NRL semi today


https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-rabbitohs-v-sea-eagles-1270718/

7am tomorrow what everyone expected to be the final Melbourne Storm v Penrith Panthers
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« Reply #113 on: September 25, 2021, 06:27:59 am »
Worst Wigan side in decades. Completely toothless in attack.

Now, over to Hull KR to shut up the Wire.

😂😂😂😂 Looked like the Wigan walk had moved to Warrington last night. Lovely stuff.
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« Reply #114 on: September 25, 2021, 06:54:15 am »
I don’t know what the splits are between Aussie Rules, Union and football but in big parts of the country League is clearly the main sport so they probably get first dibs on the best athletes. Can’t really say the same here. Even in the League heartlands, football is probably the bigger sport still I’d have thought.

Hard pitches and a good climate probably help with the pace of the game too.

Easiest way to break it down as follows:

Aussies Rules - pretty much gets all the elite athletes from Victoria, Western Australia, South Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania (about 40% of population) as well as those from the Southern Segment of NSW (general rule of thumb is everywhere in line with Canberra & South is AFL territory). They still get some elite athletes from Queensland and there’s been instances where they’ve made the final of the under 18s National Championships.

Rugby League - pretty much gets all the elite athletes from Queensland and the Northern 3/4s of NSW (think North of Canberra on a map) and ACT. Very rarely you’ll get a player born in WA, SA, NT or Victoria as they are AFL heartlands. Given Sydney (population is 5.4m) is one half of the heart of rugby league, there’s probably more kids playing league in Sydney than there is in the whole of England.

Rugby Union - effectively a minority football code in Australia as most of the players that play for the state teams come from the private schools which rules out most of NSW and QLD kids (where Union is actually played). There’s actually more registered union players in NZ (hence why they are so much better at the sport than we are).

Football is still quite popular over here (think it has the best participation rates by children) but because the professional game is a lot weaker than the other domestic codes they’ll generally lose the best athletes to them and cricket.

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« Reply #115 on: September 25, 2021, 07:42:05 am »
Thanks mate, interesting break down.

Shows that the Wallabies probably punch above their weight as well given they do t have the same resources available.

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« Reply #116 on: September 25, 2021, 07:51:22 am »
Worst Wigan side in decades. Completely toothless in attack.

Now, over to Hull KR to shut up the Wire.

Lam hasn't been a good coach for Wigan. Great player, not so good in terms of coaching it seems.

Wigan also lacking in the forwards, never going to win anything with that pack. But it's the lack of tries that's been the worst part this season. Some very good backs in the side, two of which are joining West Tigers in the NRL next season, so they must be rated (Hastings and Gildart, both very good players). But truly we're the worst side offensively this season.

Good thing is that this can only improve next season, except for the fact that Wigan are losing these two and a few others. Need to recruit well. Also missed French for most of the season through injury, and Field played a couple of games, but otherwise was injured - no idea how good or bad he is!

The Wigan v Leeds game was dire. Utterly devoid of excitement.

At least it wasn't Warrington's year!

Well be cheering Catalan on now. Also enjoying the NRL preliminaries. Storm v Panthers should be a beaut, although Panthers have had a drop of form at exactly the wrong time.
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« Reply #117 on: September 25, 2021, 08:16:15 am »
Thanks mate, interesting break down.

Shows that the Wallabies probably punch above their weight as well given they do t have the same resources available.

They've also just about to lift the ban on picking players based abroad if they had under 60 tests and seven seasons Super Rugby experience.
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« Reply #118 on: September 25, 2021, 08:45:26 am »
Thanks mate, interesting break down.

Shows that the Wallabies probably punch above their weight as well given they do t have the same resources available.

In a way yes, because of the lack of involvement at grassroots level (compared to Aussie Rules and Rugby League) however due to the connections to the Private School part of society there’s plenty of corporate dollars that go into the professional game. The fact Super Rugby has barely been on free-to-air television in my lifetime probably hasn’t helped the code that much either.

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Re: Rugby League
« Reply #119 on: September 25, 2021, 10:32:32 am »
Storm v Panthers (1st v 2nd) from earlier this morning (last night to them)

https://www.nrl.com/tv/news/match-highlights-storm-v-panthers-1270922/

This is why people wanted it to be the final
aarf, aarf, aarf.