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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39880 on: August 15, 2022, 06:28:12 pm »


Giggs? Now that's a blast from the past. Whatever happened to him?

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39881 on: August 15, 2022, 06:29:04 pm »
How long have you been friends with Gary Neville?

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39882 on: August 15, 2022, 06:31:38 pm »
I don`t get this argument that a lot of United fans have about the owners not spending their "own" money on the club. First of all, why do they expect that? That implies that they want owners like City and Newcastle have, or an Abramovic. Most clubs aren`t based on owners spending their "own" money. Secondly, what defines "own money" anyway? If United as a club generates a lot of money now, also because of how the Glaziers have run it, haven`t they been part of making the club more valuable? They own the club, so why then technically isn`t the money that go to signing players, "their" money? Is it the club`s money? If so, why even need owners to begin with?

Yes, the Glaziers take out money of the club. That`s not so uncommon in the stock market. But does that make them bad owners as long as the club becomes more and more worth?

I am not sure if the Glaziers are bad owners because of that. The reason they`re bad is that they can`t put the right people in charge when it comes to the sporting side of things. Would they be bad owners if they had the staff that Liverpool has? If so, why? The problem isn`t that United spend too little money. It`s that they don`t have people who knows how to spend it right. United spend too much money.

Correct me if I`m wrong, but the reason FSG have shown themselves as good owners aren`t because they spend their "own" money. It`s because they know how to gradually grow a business and has bettered the commercial part of the club+ that they have put a system in place/great staff that makes the sporting operation successfull.
   
Oh do come on now. You are being incredibly unfair with that post. I mean why bring reality into this?  ::)

They don't want to hear the truth. They'd rather point the finger of blame in one single direction, despite the fact that outside observers can clearly see their problems are many and varied. Ferguson has long been a problem. The entire mindset of their club, fanbase and media cheerleaders is a massive problem. Ego and vanity is a major problem, as is over-sentimentality. That's before we even get started on the ineptitude and unprofessionalism that runs through the entire club like words in a stick of rock.

But no, it's all down to the Glazers not spending their personal wealth on them. I think these clowns don't understand the difference between personal wealth and the wealth of the business. Liverpool are light years ahead of United, yet John Henry doesn't spend his personal wealth on Liverpool FC. He spends what the club generates.

The thing with the grotesquely entitled Mancs is that they loved it when their revenue dwarfed most others and allowed them to bully the transfer market. But now others have caught up they don't like it. Add in the sportswashers and we see how the landscape has changed. The bully is now being bullied, so is crying off. It's poetic justice really.

The bottom line here is that they desperately crave a murderous regime of their own. It's crystal clear for all to see. They want someone in who is going to spend billions of their own nations wealth fund on them.

They're Man United. Their fans are only Billy Big Bollocks when the numbers are well in their favour. They are also only happy when the financial numbers favour them too. Otherwise, they cry off.

That lot forget that they willingly sold their soul years ago. They took 'Football Club' off their crest. They went big business in the stock market. They gambled and it served them ok for a while. Now they are squealing like pigs because the wave they rode has now peaked and crashed onto the rocks.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39883 on: August 15, 2022, 06:33:14 pm »
Giggs? Now that's a blast from the past. Whatever happened to him?

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39884 on: August 15, 2022, 06:37:41 pm »
Remember them few United supporters that would come in here from time-to-time? Some of em were alright. Some were the usual.

Where have they gone to? Could do with their input on this... :D

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39885 on: August 15, 2022, 06:40:01 pm »
Mac, they're living the jet set life. Cantona hasn't been seen in here in years. Still Skiing down the Alps mate.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39886 on: August 15, 2022, 06:42:23 pm »
They've sorted all this now. They have a "Think tank" of which Fergie is part.  ;D


United’s chief executive Arnold has given Ferguson a ‘formal role’ at the club.

He will be part of a ‘think-tank’ which also includes ex-CEO David Gill, former captain Bryan Robson and director John Murtough.

This position is said to give Ferguson ‘more influence at Old Trafford than at any time since he stepped down as manager’.

There will be ‘regular meetings’ and they all will ‘advise on a wide range of issues’. This includes the redevelopment of their Carrington training ground.




A think tank that includes two alcoholics …..one of whom has recently had a brain aneurism.

That’s going to go well.
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39887 on: August 15, 2022, 06:56:15 pm »
They've sorted all this now. They have a "Think tank" of which Fergie is part.


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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39888 on: August 15, 2022, 07:08:21 pm »

Sorry, I was never that good at biology!

But that is a great photo. What is that bulging pipe thing on the side of his neck?
Artery? Muscle? Is it usually that big on non-athletes?

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39889 on: August 15, 2022, 07:19:04 pm »
Sky arranging United's post-Ferguson signings into a traffic light system and it's all over the place. What is Maguire doing in amber? :lmao


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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39890 on: August 15, 2022, 07:29:51 pm »
They've sorted all this now. They have a "Think tank" of which Fergie is part.  ;D


United’s chief executive Arnold has given Ferguson a ‘formal role’ at the club.

He will be part of a ‘think-tank’ which also includes ex-CEO David Gill, former captain Bryan Robson and director John Murtough.

This position is said to give Ferguson ‘more influence at Old Trafford than at any time since he stepped down as manager’.

There will be ‘regular meetings’ and they all will ‘advise on a wide range of issues’. This includes the redevelopment of their Carrington training ground.




That's a problem in itself...
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In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39891 on: August 15, 2022, 07:35:35 pm »
It isn't just Darwin and the Man City bloke. It's the likes of Calvert-Lewin, Awoniyi, Bamford, Watkins, Antonio, Kane etc. They are players of varying quality but all of them are mobile, aggressive, and technically pretty good as well as tall and dangerous in the air. This is a tough league for a centre back to play in. And it's pretty relentless. You can be sure that Martinez has never been asked to play against opponents like this - and certainly not week after week.

I'm sorry to say that he won't be playing against Liverpool - certainly not at centre back.

Harry Maguire will though....
This is the thing. It's not just that the league is full of big units, that's always been the case. But they're not just great big shire horses any more, every one of those you mentioned has got quality. He's going to get mauled week in week out.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39892 on: August 15, 2022, 07:41:40 pm »
Sky arranging United's post-Ferguson signings into a traffic light system and it's all over the place. What is Maguire doing in amber? :lmao


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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39893 on: August 15, 2022, 07:46:39 pm »
Neville saying if United was a school, they’d be put in ‘Special Circumstances’. In this superb insight, the players are the children. It’s not the teachers fault, or the headmaster’s…so it must be….ahh fuck it, it’s the Glazers’ fault. I got lost in this allegory
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39894 on: August 15, 2022, 07:47:18 pm »
Sorry, I was never that good at biology!

But that is a great photo. What is that bulging pipe thing on the side of his neck?
Artery? Muscle? Is it usually that big on non-athletes?
That thing is massive. Explains why he was able to compete on the pitch, despite his lack of athleticism. Lots of blood and airflow to every part of the body.
Explains why he made such daft decisions in life as well I suppose. Lots of air to the brain...
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"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39895 on: August 15, 2022, 07:48:32 pm »
Sky arranging United's post-Ferguson signings into a traffic light system and it's all over the place. What is Maguire doing in amber? :lmao



So green is great and red shite?

Two great signings in what’s ten years?

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39896 on: August 15, 2022, 07:49:47 pm »
Neville saying if United was a school, they’d be put in ‘Special Circumstances’. In this superb insight, the players are the children. It’s not the teachers fault, or the headmaster’s…so it must be….ahh fuck it, it’s the Glazers’ fault. I got lost in this allegory

The Glazers are the Board of Governors. They appoint the Head Teacher.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39897 on: August 15, 2022, 07:50:02 pm »
Neville saying if United was a school, they’d be put in ‘Special Circumstances’. In this superb insight, the players are the children. It’s not the teachers fault, or the headmaster’s…so it must be….ahh fuck it, it’s the Glazers’ fault. I got lost in this allegory


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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39898 on: August 15, 2022, 07:50:48 pm »
So green is great and red shite?

Two great signings in what’s ten years?
Huh? What are you guys seeing? I see names in white... with a blue and dark-blue background?
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In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39899 on: August 15, 2022, 07:59:56 pm »
I'm seeing that Goldbridge is saying that the (non existent) De Jong deal is off. ;D
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39900 on: August 15, 2022, 08:01:08 pm »
Huh? What are you guys seeing? I see names in white... with a blue and dark-blue background?
Amber Heard about the red and the green and shit the bed.
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39901 on: August 15, 2022, 08:28:01 pm »
Sky arranging United's post-Ferguson signings into a traffic light system and it's all over the place. What is Maguire doing in amber? :lmao


Shaw, Matic and Fred also look out of place in that bracket, unless Sky were just being kind. Maybe the others were so shit it's elevated them to simply 'less shit'. Mata would also surely be Amber, despite their stupid decision to keep him long past his sell by date.

As for the red list - that must be the worst (and most expensive) run of transfer flops in football history. Absolutely shocking recruitment, and so many players that went downhill at Utd (and some that got better again when they left). I think the technical term for this sort of club management is a 'shitshow'.
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39902 on: August 15, 2022, 09:01:10 pm »
Neville saying if United was a school, they’d be put in ‘Special Circumstances’. In this superb insight, the players are the children. It’s not the teachers fault, or the headmaster’s…so it must be….ahh fuck it, it’s the Glazers’ fault. I got lost in this allegory

It's not even called 'Special Circumstances'. Tit.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39903 on: August 15, 2022, 10:24:14 pm »
Passarella was 5'8"...

very nice call, brownie points for that blast from the past, another of those small players that had a great leap on him (cannavaro will always come to mind with that but even looking at our thaigo, dude can jump, they're out there) and an elite defender with a prowess for scoring

still, they're rare beasts at the top level and linking the kind of names we have to that role/stature demonstrates just how much a short CB is disadvantaged

it's almost like citing Filippo Inzaghi as the model striker  ;D outside the box the dude could hardly play football, inside it he was lethal in having a knack for getting the ball over the line somehow

butch wilkins comms that always stuck in my head about inzaghi 'outside the box he's the worst professional player i've ever seen, inside it he's one of the best'
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39904 on: August 15, 2022, 10:42:01 pm »
very nice call, brownie points for that blast from the past, another of those small players that had a great leap on him (cannavaro will always come to mind with that but even looking at our thaigo, dude can jump, they're out there) and an elite defender with a prowess for scoring

still, they're rare beasts at the top level and linking the kind of names we have to that role/stature demonstrates just how much a short CB is disadvantaged

it's almost like citing Filippo Inzaghi as the model striker  ;D outside the box the dude could hardly play football, inside it he was lethal in having a knack for getting the ball over the line somehow

butch wilkins comms that always stuck in my head about inzaghi 'outside the box he's the worst professional player i've ever seen, inside it he's one of the best'

Passarella was a nasty dude, too... :D

You're correct, though, notable for his atypicality as far as his height is concerned.
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39905 on: August 15, 2022, 10:52:36 pm »
Sorry, I was never that good at biology!

But that is a great photo. What is that bulging pipe thing on the side of his neck?
Artery? Muscle? Is it usually that big on non-athletes?
Sternocleidomastoid. Muscle that connects to your clavicle from the base of the skull; and the size of it probably depends on either the size of your head or if you do a lot of exercise involving your head, but it looks relatively the same on everyone.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39906 on: August 16, 2022, 12:58:26 am »
Passarella was a nasty dude, too... :D

You're correct, though, notable for his atypicality as far as his height is concerned.

Baresi was also 5ft 9 and he's arguably the greatest defender ever. But it's the by the by, because Martinez doesn't have an ounce of the talent or game intelligence that Baresi or Passarella had.
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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39907 on: August 16, 2022, 02:36:56 am »
They've sorted all this now. They have a "Think tank" of which Fergie is part.  ;D


United’s chief executive Arnold has given Ferguson a ‘formal role’ at the club.

He will be part of a ‘think-tank’ which also includes ex-CEO David Gill, former captain Bryan Robson and director John Murtough.

This position is said to give Ferguson ‘more influence at Old Trafford than at any time since he stepped down as manager’.

There will be ‘regular meetings’ and they all will ‘advise on a wide range of issues’. This includes the redevelopment of their Carrington training ground.


Next thing you know they'll be asking some of their former players to come back and play for them as well ::)

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39908 on: August 16, 2022, 07:50:11 am »
Is anyone else’s mouth watering at the prospect of seeing Darwin go up against maguire next week ?


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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39909 on: August 16, 2022, 08:08:55 am »
Sternocleidomastoid. Muscle that connects to your clavicle from the base of the skull; and the size of it probably depends on either the size of your head or if you do a lot of exercise involving your head, but it looks relatively the same on everyone.
Hey, thanks a lot for that.
I gotta be honest, I don't think I've seen one so prominent as that. I reckon he must've worked it in the gym as a sports person would.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39910 on: August 16, 2022, 09:38:13 am »
https://mobile.twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1559412700416991232

After a shit night we can at least take solace in the fact we’re not owned by the Glazers.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39911 on: August 16, 2022, 10:21:49 am »
https://mobile.twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1559412700416991232

After a shit night we can at least take solace in the fact we’re not owned by the Glazers.

740 million in INTEREST on the debt alone … fucking hell that’s horrendous

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39912 on: August 16, 2022, 10:21:56 am »
https://mobile.twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1559412700416991232

After a shit night we can at least take solace in the fact we’re not owned by the Glazers.
And here's me thinking that the Glazers and the like were in it for the love of their clubs?   ::)

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39913 on: August 16, 2022, 10:28:40 am »
What’s the problem, they’ve spent a lot of money, great owners. The glazers aren’t passing the ball to the brentford player like..

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39914 on: August 16, 2022, 10:39:04 am »
https://mobile.twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1559412700416991232

After a shit night we can at least take solace in the fact we’re not owned by the Glazers.

Ferguson's legacy  ;D

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39915 on: August 16, 2022, 10:46:32 am »
The numbers really are staggering but just goes to show how much effort they've made to get rid of them previously. Because its not new information is it? Every man and his dog has known they've been saddling them with debt for well over a decade now. But the reality is they've not given a shit, because what they value is success at any cost, or a shiny new toy, or an opportunity to ignore whats right in front of their faces and live the fantasy that they're still successful and still the 'biggest club in the world'. And that's the crux of it. If they went on some fabulous spending spree in the next two weeks, signed Harry Kane, Milinkovic-Savic, Bellingham, Raphael Guerreiro and Wesley Fofana all would be forgiven and they'd be back crowing about how they're going to win the league, and the Glazers could carry on as usual.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39916 on: August 16, 2022, 10:49:34 am »
Their stadium has been falling apart for years, it only became an issue when the team fell apart

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39917 on: August 16, 2022, 11:23:02 am »
Their stadium has been falling apart for years, it only became an issue when the team fell apart
In what way?

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39918 on: August 16, 2022, 11:33:59 am »
In what way?

Times I’ve been there it looks like an unfinished building site, heras fencing everywhere, stadium looking old and tired, but they were winning then.

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Re: Man United thread. Revolution Number... 6?
« Reply #39919 on: August 16, 2022, 12:00:28 pm »
In what way?
https://worldsportstale.com/soccer/how-the-glazers-have-left-old-trafford-in-decay/

It's been crumbling for years.

To be honest, it's a ground I've never been impressed by.
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