Topic: Champions League last 16 draw - Monday 7 November 11:00 GMT

[Hazell]

I hope we don't draw Barca or Juve...

Europa League's gonna have some big historic names in this year - Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Man Utd, Arsenal and maybe Milan as well as other clubs like Tottenham (hopefully). Should be a good watch, as long as the Mancs go out.

[duvva 💅]

Europa League's gonna have some big historic names in this year - Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Man Utd, Arsenal and maybe Milan as well as other clubs like Tottenham (hopefully). Should be a good watch, as long as the Mancs go out.

That’s kind of how it used to be when just the Champions played in the European Cup. Can see why they switched the format to make the main comp stronger but inevitably it usually means the UEFA Cup isn’t usually as strong as it was, but it looks like it’ll be tough to win this year if those clubs take it seriously

[Kennys from heaven]

Do you struggle with reading comprehension?

Its clear as day a 3-0 win would not suffice. We would be tied on all the factors and go to the rule where its GD among all group games, we lose that. Its 4-0 or more, nothing less. We need to win by 4 goals or more to win out on the tie breakers.

As you were so viscious in response, I will retort in kind and say read the words properly before gobbing off mate.

Refresher - Goal difference is calculated as the number of goals scored, minus the number of goals conceded.

The UEFA ruling clearly states:

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings:

2. Superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question

Key thing here is played among the teams in question. Not the group overall

Therefore, us losing 4-1 over there and should we win 3-0 next week, then our goal difference would be one better due to them conceding.

[4pool]

Anybody wanting Real Madrid are mad.

This.

[BoRed]

2. Superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question

Key thing here is played among the teams in question. Not the group overall

Therefore, us losing 4-1 over there and should we win 3-0 next week, then our goal difference would be one better due to them conceding.

Not quite, I'm afraid. One last try:

Refresher - Goal difference is calculated as the number of goals scored, minus the number of goals conceded.

They won 4-1, we win 3-0, we've scored four and conceded four, so our goal difference is 0 (and so is theirs).

[Jm55]

Therefore, us losing 4-1 over there and should we win 3-0 next week, then our goal difference would be one better due to them conceding.

If we win 3-0 then our goal difference over the 2 matches is zero (four goals scored, four goals conceded)

If we win 3-0 then Napoli’s hogan difference over the 2 matches is zero (four goals scored, four goals conceded).

We’d tie in that situation and they’d end up winning on goal difference across the group.

[Ghost Town]

Which pot are Man Utd in?

[farawayred]

Which pot are Man Utd in?

[PaulKS]

Really enjoyed Lisbon, so would like Sporting as i'm sure we'd batter them as well

Nightmare draws for me are PSG and Bayern... so glad we can't get Napoli either, sick of them

[jonnypb]

Refresher - Goal difference is calculated as the number of goals scored, minus the number of goals conceded.

The UEFA ruling clearly states:

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings:

2. Superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question

Therefore, us losing 4-1 over there and should we win 3-0 next week, then our goal difference would be one better due to them conceding.

Goal difference as you say is goals scored minus goals conceded.  Therefore, your example of us winning 3-0 means we'll be on the SAME goal difference.  If that is equal then the next rule to determine who finishes higher is the overall goal difference from the whole group, of which Napoli have a superior record.  We have to win by 4 clear goals to finish top.

In theory, Liverpool could win that match and join Luciano Spalletti’s side on 15 points.

At that stage, it would be decided by their head-to-head record, which would be one point each.

Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1 at the Stadio Maradona back in September, so Jurgen Klopp’s men would have to win by four clear goals to take top spot.

They could always win by three clear goals and then it’d be decided by overall goal difference, but Napoli are well ahead there too on +16 to +9

[Walshy nMe®]

To be honest the way the season has started I am just happy to be in the draw.

Get who we get and beat them, move on to the next.

[El Lobo]

Not that arsed who we get purely because we'll hopefully be a very different proposition when the knockouts start...but pretty obviously it'd be better getting a Club Brugge than a Real Madrid.

[shank94]

Anybody wanting Real Madrid are mad.

Why you'd rather play them in another final or get it done with over two legs?

[Garnier]

We're winning it you know

[stonecold_jpm]

Not really fussed, we’re due a big tie though after last seasons draws. We will be a different animal in the knockout rounds as it’s probably all we will have to play now so expect a pumped up Anfield and nobody wants to play Liverpool in a European match in that instance. I’d take PSG rather than Madrid or Bayern.

[Kennys from heaven]

Public apology - Not having a very good time of it lately and am not thinking very straight right now, but was completely wrong in what I thought regarding goal difference and sorry for being a complete twat.

[Cafe De Paris]

Just checking but with the other English clubs looking to finish top of their groups then our chances of getting a team who are ‘beatable’ are limited. I would take Real Madrid. If only for the fact it is a massive game and if we have any chance we would have a better one over two legs.

[elsewhere]

Porto would be fine

[WanderlustRed]

Why you'd rather play them in another final or get it done with over two legs?

Rather someone else beat them and not have to play them at all.

[amir87]

Porto would be fine

The only good option. Any other team is going to be very tough.

Either way, a lot can change by February.

[MBL?]

We are getting Madrid.

[BoRed]

Just checking but with the other English clubs looking to finish top of their groups then our chances of getting a team who are ‘beatable’ are limited. I would take Real Madrid. If only for the fact it is a massive game and if we have any chance we would have a better one over two legs.

We could have done without Spurs getting that winner. Need Celtic and Juve to do the job tomorrow.

Somehow feels inevitable we'll get Real Madrid, though.

[rushyman]

So we can’t play English or napoli in the next round yes?

[BoRed]

So we can’t play English or napoli in the next round yes?

Yes, it's Porto, Bayern, Real or Leipzig and PSG or Benfica.

[King Kenny 7]

Porto, Benfica or Leipzig please . . .

I'll cry if we draw Bayern.  :'(

[kj999]

WE ARE LIVERPOOL!! BRING ANYONE ON!!

[MdArshad]

WE ARE LIVERPOOL!! BRING ANYONE ON!!

THIS!!!! THIS!!!! THIS!!!!


Real Madrid please. One way or the other, lets get it over and done. I cannot stand going all the way to the final and losing to them again.

[StL-Dono]

THIS!!!! THIS!!!! THIS!!!!


Real Madrid please. One way or the other, lets get it over and done. I cannot stand going all the way to the final and losing to them again.

Somehow feel we have a better chance across two matches rather than a single final.  Not sure why, but probably because the better team tends to win out over a tie rather than a one off.  Either way, we shouldn't be (nor will we be) scared of any team we might face. 

[ScouserAtHeart]

Who knows what anyone's form will be in 3 months' time. Not to mention injuries during the world cup.

[ScubaSteve]

Porto, Benfica or Leipzig please . . .

I'll cry if we draw Bayern.  :'(

You know we’re getting Bayern at some point in this comp.

[CanuckYNWA]

Who knows what anyone's form will be in 3 months' time. Not to mention injuries during the world cup.

I am not as arsed about who we play since its so far away and I trust Klopp to get us firing on all cylinders again along with we will probably sign a midfielder in January

[Bobsackamano]

Whoever we get it will be pissed at getting us. We are not the draw any of the winners of the group's would wish for.

[Nick110581]

To be honest, a big Team at home wouldn’t be the worst thing.

[I've been a good boy]

A big team would actually be better for us, it'll give the players a new challenge and if we beat them, whoever comes after will be much easier to deal with. Most foreign teams will be hoping for Spurs and praying to avoid us.

[DelTrotter]

Not really bothered who we get, Klopp would school Nagelsmann who would likely come to Anfield and play straight in to our hands again. PSG (assuming they win the group anyway) have the same old problem of only having 8 players willing to defend, press, it doesn't work at this level. Real would be tough, you can dominate them for 180mins and still go out, it's the way they are in this competition but if we want to win it we'll have to play them at some point you'd imagine.

[Jm55]

I’d obviously rather Benfica or Porto but if it has to be one of the big 3 I’d probably choose Madrid just on the basis we surely are due one against then by now?

[tubby]

Porto must be getting the sweats thinking about drawing us again.

[mapleleaf56]

To be honest I’m not bothered who we get.. being in the last 16 is awesome and to win this thing you have to beat the best and nobody will want to draw us…

[redk84]

I want Real Madrid. Nobody else 

[Brain Potter]

We will probably the team in pot 2 who the group winners want to avoid.
I’d be confident against any of the possibilities